Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a in AT&T West http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20459671 en Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:35:19 EDT Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:35:19 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513241 d_l : Ah, so you had a slight problem with the route command you had been using.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513241 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:37:13 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513193 sideband :
said by d_l See Profile :

You could try Method 4: »SBC DSL FAQ »How do I access the modem GUI thru a router - advanced methods? with the PC-router-switch-modem if all devices behind the router are on static IPs (no using DHCP).
Fixed it. I stuck with method two and used the route command described in the link you gave me, which routed to 192.168.0.1. I was using 192.168.1.254 With a syslog running and access to my adapter, I can now obsess over every detail of my connection ;). There goes more UDP packets to ports 1026, 1027, and 1028 :o

Thanks,
Curt]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513193 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:28:10 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512795 wayjac : Give this a try:
2210 Modem GUI access with a router]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512795 Tue, 20 May 2008 15:23:20 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512390 d_l : You could try Method 4: »SBC DSL FAQ »How do I access the modem GUI thru a router - advanced methods? with the PC-router-switch-modem if all devices behind the router are on static IPs (no using DHCP). Be certain that you have any software firewalls set to trust all IPs that you want to access.

Try Method 3 if you have a second router available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512390 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:25:12 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512198 sideband : Now that my router is back in my circuit and the DSL adpater behind it, I thought I would try to access the adapter Web server. Connection 2 below is PC/switch/DLink DIR-655/hub/DSL adapter. Connection 1 is PC/hub/DSL adapter. I then tried to build the route as suggested with adjustment for my situation. No luck. The adapter is in bridge mode.

C:\Users>route add 192.168.1.254 mask 255.255.255.255 169.254.71.47 if 1 -p

OK!

C:\Users>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c157:975d:3a11:3d34%9
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.197
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.99

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::715f:c1a7:3b80:472f%7
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.71.47
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

I then tried giving the NIC a static IP address of 192.168.1.0 and subnet mask of 255.255.255.255 and set the route accordingly. No luck. I then tried a static IP address of 192.168.1.64 and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. No luck.

This is how it's set now:

C:\Users>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c157:975d:3a11:3d34%9
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.197
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.99
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::715f:c1a7:3b80:472f%7
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.64
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Users>route print
===========================================================================
Interface List
9 ...00 1b fc 58 88 f3 ...... Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Con
troller
7 ...00 1b fc 58 93 fc ...... Marvell Yukon 88E8052 PCI-E ASF Gigabit Ethernet
Controller
1 ........................... Software Loopback Interface 1
12 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 isatap.{E3FDC6AA-CCDC-43E9-9AC9-9F43D228DF93}
8 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 isatap.{7A57BDC7-5E77-4184-AD68-370013C36DB0}
11 ...02 00 54 55 4e 01 ...... Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
===========================================================================

IPv4 Route Table
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.99 10.0.0.197 20
10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 10.0.0.197 276
10.0.0.197 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.0.0.197 276
10.0.0.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.0.0.197 276
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 On-link 10.0.0.197 30
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.0.0.197 276
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.1.64 276
192.168.1.64 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.64 276
192.168.1.254 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.64 127.0.0.1 51
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.64 276
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 10.0.0.197 276
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.1.64 276
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 10.0.0.197 276
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.64 276
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
192.168.1.254 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.64 1
===========================================================================

Any thoughts on what to try next?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512198 Tue, 20 May 2008 13:56:04 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20501848 wayjac :
said by d_l See Profile :

I prefer the PPP on computer mode for a Speedstream, but the software of a 2210 is not exactly identical to that of a Speedstream so possible quirky differences haven't been fully explored.
Another 2210 user complained about the internet light flashing while the modem was in PPP on computer mode.
The modem log also had PPPoE messages in the log.
Changing the mode to bridged turned off the internet light and eliminated the PPPoE log messages. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20501848 Sun, 18 May 2008 13:37:44 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20501768 d_l : I prefer the PPP on computer mode for a Speedstream, but the software of a 2210 is not exactly identical to that of a Speedstream so possible quirky differences haven't been fully explored. I sometimes call the PPP on computer mode a "semi-bridged" mode because the modem is still serving a DHCP address to your computer. The modem's web pages say it is bridged.

The people who still have true static IPs and maybe DHCP connections would use the true Bridged mode. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20501768 Sun, 18 May 2008 13:18:59 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20501560 sideband : When you say the "modem is bridged", do you mean that literally? I can set my 2210 to "PPP is on the computer" or "Bridged Mode (PPPoE is not used)". I was using the former before I took my router (DLink DIR-655) out of the circuit to isolate a problem I'm having. If they both work, is one of them preferable? I tried asking this question on the Motorola forum, but got no response.

Curt]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20501560 Sun, 18 May 2008 12:32:12 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20463302 vanhh : This should work with second NID without having enable/disable one of the NID or using special commands. The modem will be in Bridge mode and router will handle PPPoE.

- Modem is in Bridge mode
- router setup to handle PPPoE:

IP address 192.168.X.1 (X=any number less than 255 and not 1)
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0

Original NID set to 'Obtain IP address automatically' or you can assign static IP to it.

- Second NID connect to the switch:

IP address 192.168.1.X (X=any number less than 255 and not 254)
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default gateway 192.168.1.254

You should be able to get the modem stats now by typing 192.168.1.254. Both NIDs can run concurrently now without having 'IP conflicted' error.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20463302 Sat, 10 May 2008 22:11:36 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20462237 NormanS :
said by vanhh See Profile :

This way will work, but you need a second network card and a switch in between your modem and router (modem ---- switch ---- router ---- PCs.)
This is the part I hated it. To get the modem stats, you need to disable the NID connecting to your router and enable the NID connect to the switch. Then type 192.168.1.254 to get the stats. To get back to the internet, then you need to reverse the process disable and enable the NID. This is why I didn't like it.
I'd just build a route to the modem:

route add 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.x if 2 -p

(Where 192.168.1.x it the IP address on the second NIC.)

I think that should do it. The '-p' switch makes the addition persistent across system reboots. I am not sure about the gateway IP address, but I believe using the second NIC will cause packets for 192.168.1.254 to be routed in that direction. I didn't include a metric because I believe the default value should work.

Using 255.255.255.255 as the subnet mask for the destination of the added router means that only packets to 192.168.1.254 will be routed to the second NIC.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20462237 Sat, 10 May 2008 16:47:23 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460738 d_l : If you don't want to have the modem making the PPPoE connections, here are three other methods that are available: »SBC DSL FAQ »How do I access the modem GUI thru a router - advanced methods? . The descriptions are designed for the Speedstreams but the IPs can be changed to work on the 2210 modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460738 Sat, 10 May 2008 09:18:26 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460401 vanhh : ok here we go folks. There are few ways to do it.

1)This way will work, but you need a second network card and a switch in between your modem and router (modem ---- switch ---- router ---- PCs.) Modem is in Bridge mode and your router does PPPoE. Give a static ip to your second NID like 192.168.1.xx (something different range from your router), subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and default gateway 192.168.1.254 (your modem IP). Connect this NID to the switch. You don't have to change anything in the router. This is the part I hated it. To get the modem stats, you need to disable the NID connecting to your router and enable the NID connect to the switch. Then type 192.168.1.254 to get the stats. To get back to the internet, then you need to reverse the process disable and enable the NID. This is why I didn't like it.

2) Here is the easy way. You don't need to have extra NID and a switch. Your modem does PPPoE. I didn't test with the modem in Bridge mode, but I think we will be able to get stats with the modem in either modes in this setup. Maybe someone could try and give some feedbacks with modem in Bridge mode.

This is my router setup:
Connection Type DHCP

LAN
Router IP Address 192.168.X.1 In this case X=2
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
DHCP 192.168.X.100 - 149

NID (set it to 'Obtain an IP address automatically' also works)

IP Address 192.168.X.101
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.X.1

Type 192.168.1.254 to get to the modem.

enjoys,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460401 Sat, 10 May 2008 04:51:54 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460332 NormanS : If the modem is bridged, getting access to the stats pages requires some extra equipment and cabling. I have never done it, myself, so I am hazy on the concept.

With PPPoE on the modem, you need to understand how a router works. Your router is acting as a NAT gateway, and has to decide where to send packets. If your subnet mask, and LAN IP address overlap any IP addresses beyond the gateway, reading the modem pages won't work because the router will keep the packets on the LAN. Furthermore, some router dislike have an IP address on the WAN port which overlaps the LAN IP address range, and will autochange the LAN IP address.

So; Motorola 2210 resides at 192.168.1.254, and issues IP address 192.168.1.64 to the router WAN port (if using the private IP address option). This means that LAN IP address 192.168.1.0, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 will prevent packets addressed to the modem from leaving the gateway.

You can't change the Motorola IP addresses, so you have to change the router LAN IP address. I generally recommend selecting a LAN IP address of 192.168.x.0, where the value of 'x' is at least two, but no higher than 255 (actually, higher than 255 is invalid; the router should bark at you for even trying it!) Use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. Most common for the router, itself, would be 192.168.x.1.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460332 Sat, 10 May 2008 03:22:25 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460321 tonydi : That FAQ is saying you can't talk to it through a router if the router does the PPPoE login, same as with the Speedstreams. But follow d_l See Profile's advice and you'll have no problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460321 Sat, 10 May 2008 03:18:02 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459671 d_l : AT&T Southeast 2210 modem run a vastly different software than the 2210 modems issued to the old SBC region. Their modems are router-modems. So nothing found there applies to vanhh See Profile's modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459671 Fri, 09 May 2008 22:59:45 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459615 sideband : Even more rooting and I found this: »Re:DIR615/dlink router. I had a hard time follow what she was saying, however.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459615 Fri, 09 May 2008 22:47:38 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459544 sideband : I was rooting around to find the latest software to the adapter when I found this page: »Ameritech - SBC FAQ. Look at the bottom of the page. Doesn't look like you can talk to it through a router.

Curt]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459544 Fri, 09 May 2008 22:33:17 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459501 d_l : Here is how to do it on a Speedstream modem: »Ameritech - SBC FAQ »Modem GUI access thru a router . AT&T asked Motorola to make the 2210 operate exactly like the Speedstreams did so there wouldn't be a support problem. ... but nooooooo, they didn't do that! :uhh:

The modem has an IP of 192.168.1.254 and can dhcp serve up the private IP 192.168.1.64 to your computer or router. Your router would have to be on a subnet other than 192.168.1.xxx. You can try to follow the FAQ and change the modem IP as appropriate for the 2210. This might work or it might not. I don't know if anyone has done it. There are some other differences in way the 2210 behaves compared to the Speedstreams that might foul this up.

Good luck. Let us know if it works or not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459501 Fri, 09 May 2008 22:23:34 EDT Re: [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459329 sideband : I had the same problem and did the same thing you did to get access. I was using the 10.*.*.* range with my router DHCP. I'm guessing if I set my router DHCP to use the 192.168.*.* it might work.

Curt]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459329 Fri, 09 May 2008 21:40:31 EDT [General] how to access motorola 2210-02-1002 stats behind a rou http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459239 vanhh : hi,
I got this new modem from AT&T. It works really well - improving the SN margin and line attenuation of my dsl line, but I could not access the modem stats behind a router. I have to manualy make direct connect to the modem in order to get the stats. Is there a way to get around this problem with modem in both mode Bridge and PPPoE?

thanks,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20459239 Fri, 09 May 2008 21:20:22 EDT