15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router in Verizon Fiber Optics

15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router in Verizon Fiber Optics http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20460358 en Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:39 EDT Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:10:39 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20479181 anon : Ok, Wii has been off. Tonight the modem is struggling between 6-8 down.

I'll leave the Wii off, turn off UPNP and see if the speed drops in a day or two.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20479181 Wed, 14 May 2008 00:55:14 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470619 Smith6612 : Oh, ok. If you have Coax and you wish to have Verizon switch you to Ethernet, run your own cable to the ONT, call up Verizon and they should be more than happy to switch you to Ethernet and off the Coax.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470619 Mon, 12 May 2008 15:41:46 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468986 kgeissler : I have coax running to my Actiontec, so unless I want to bridge another router, these will not work. :(

said by Smith6612

:

This site should be helpful for helping you determine a FiOS capable router. Look for the WAN to LAN throughput category. It will rank routers from the fastest throughput to the slowest throughput, including your WRT54G.

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/

On that list, a D-Link Extreme Gaming router is the fastest one there, boasting a bit over 200Mbps of theoretical throughput. A linksys WRT54G boasts around 54Mbps of theoretical throughput and below on WAN throughput. Your Linksys should be OK to handle it, given that you give it a few tweaks at the most. That is, unless you have Version 1.0 which gives a horrible 20Mbps of total throughput. If you have Version 1.0, get yourself a new router :)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468986 Mon, 12 May 2008 10:11:49 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468981 kgeissler : I have the same problem. If I reboot the router, I will get 15/2, but over the course of a day or two, it will drop to about 8/2. I reboot, everything is fine.

This just happens on the wireless side. The wired computers never have a problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468981 Mon, 12 May 2008 10:09:53 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468681 Smith6612 : This site should be helpful for helping you determine a FiOS capable router. Look for the WAN to LAN throughput category. It will rank routers from the fastest throughput to the slowest throughput, including your WRT54G.

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/

On that list, a D-Link Extreme Gaming router is the fastest one there, boasting a bit over 200Mbps of theoretical throughput. A linksys WRT54G boasts around 54Mbps of theoretical throughput and below on WAN throughput. Your Linksys should be OK to handle it, given that you give it a few tweaks at the most. That is, unless you have Version 1.0 which gives a horrible 20Mbps of total throughput. If you have Version 1.0, get yourself a new router :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468681 Mon, 12 May 2008 08:43:47 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20467405 anon : When you are getting 10/1.8 on your PC, is your Wii powered on?

The Wii is rarely on, but it sits in standby periodically checking for messages or whatever Wii's do when not on. I'll turn it off completely (unplugged0 for this test.

What happens when you shut it down?
We'll see.

What happens when you turn off UPnP?
Will try that after seeing if the speed drops to ~10 with Wii off or not.

Are there any QoS rules established that would explain the slower speeds?
No.

After you shut down the Wii, does the speed return to normal?
Wii is unplugged. If speed still drops with Wii off, this test probably won't be useful, but will do it for fun. :)

If you reboot the router to restore normal speed test and do not turn on the Wii, does the speed test drop, or does it only drop after the Wii has been turned on?
Will see after initial "Wii off" test results are in.

I think when you get less than you expect on a speedtest, something else is using the rest.

That would have been my first guess, however so far haven't been able to pinpoint it. I did hear mumblings about the router having issues, primarily with people being on peer to peer networks, however nothing about this specifically. I was wondering if the small NAT table affected XBox live in the same manner.

Of course, I could purchase a new router and relegate the Actiontech to guide duty only, however I don't know what models to use these days. My old WRT54G won't handle the bandwidth, even with the sveasoft firmware.

Thank you again for your time and suggestions. I'll report back what I find, if anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20467405 Sun, 11 May 2008 22:10:55 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466811 birdfeedr :

said by sdsvtdriver :

Hello,

I ran a speedtest before I went to bed last night and got the usual 15/1.8.

I just turned on my PC for today and ran a speedtest first thing. 9/1.8.

[Log file entries are unremarkable]

.50 is me, .54 is the Wii.

Router firmware version is 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7

CWMP entries can be ignored at this time. It is related to port 4567 management by Verizon.

When you are getting 10/1.8 on your PC, is your Wii powered on? What happens when you shut it down? What happens when you turn off UPnP? Are there any QoS rules established that would explain the slower speeds? After you shut down the Wii, does the speed return to normal? If you reboot the router to restore normal speed test and do not turn on the Wii, does the speed test drop, or does it only drop after the Wii has been turned on?

I think when you get less than you expect on a speedtest, something else is using the rest.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466811 Sun, 11 May 2008 19:53:16 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466366 anon : Hello,

I ran a speedtest before I went to bed last night and got the usual 15/1.8.

I just turned on my PC for today and ran a speedtest first thing. 9/1.8.

Nothing of interest in the log files, just a bunch of entries like this:

May 11 17:44:07 2008 System Log LAN DHCP DHCP LAN Connection IP:192.168.1.50, DNS:192.168.1.1,GTW:192.168.1.1,Subnet:255.255.255.0 (Wireless)
May 11 17:21:51 2008 System Log LAN DHCP DHCP LAN Connection IP:192.168.1.54, DNS:192.168.1.1,GTW:192.168.1.1,Subnet:255.255.255.0 (Wireless)
[repeated 2 times, last time on May 11 17:40:43 2008]
May 11 17:14:59 2008 System Log WAN DHCP DHCP WAN connection IP:71.177.123.xxx,DNS:68.238.64.14 68.238.96.14 ,GTW:71.177.123.1,Subnet:255.255.255.0 (WAN Ethernet)

.50 is me, .54 is the Wii.

Only other log item that differs is:

May 11 11:28:31 2008 System Log CWMP Periodic Inform 204 No Content

May 11 11:28:31 2008 System Log CWMP Periodic Inform challenge response with 200 OK from server

May 11 11:28:26 2008 System Log CWMP Periodic Inform initial 401 challenge

Router firmware version is 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466366 Sun, 11 May 2008 17:54:10 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20464409 birdfeedr :

said by sdsvtdriver :

Thanks for your reply.

I know a scheduled task can be set up in the router, I wonder if I can set it up to reboot everynight at 3am.

From the scheduler page:
"Scheduler rules are used for limiting the activation of firewall rules to specific time periods, either for days of the week, or for hours of each day"

Trying to discern the real nature of your slowdown. When your speed test shows 10/1, are there any entries in the router log that are anomalous? Check both the firewall log and the system log.

See if there is other router traffic that's taking up some of your 15/2 so your speed test looks like 10/1. Make sure your computer is on but running no user-directed programs for at least 10 minutes. If you have TV, no guide search or VOD. After 10 minutes with no activity, run your speed test. Note the results, then log in to the Actiontec, go to System Monitoring, Advanced Status, answer Yes, select Bandwidth Monitoring.

Copy and paste the stats in your reply here.

ADDED: Never mind the bandwidth monitor page of the router. It counts the bits within that minute, and displays the average per second. Speed test results will only be accurate there if it is a sustained transfer through the entire minute.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20464409 Sun, 11 May 2008 07:03:05 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20462813 anon : Thanks for your reply.

I know a scheduled task can be set up in the router, I wonder if I can set it up to reboot everynight at 3am.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20462813 Sat, 10 May 2008 19:46:45 EDT Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460653 Belspur : Hello svtdriver,

The slow down is caused by the very small NAT Table in the action tech.

I had the same problem.

I solved it by getting a D-Link DGL-4500 Gaming router. No more problems. Router has up for 45 days now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460653 Sat, 10 May 2008 08:45:06 EDT 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460358 anon : Hello,

I have noticed my internet speed tends to degrade over time. If I test the speed, sometimes I get 10/1.5. Connecting to the router and rebooting seems to fix this and immediately after, I get 15/1.8. I don't do any file transfer or P2P, just web browsing and XBox live.

Ideas? Bad router?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20460358 Sat, 10 May 2008 03:53:33 EDT