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sdsvtdriver

@verizon.net
reply to svtdriver
Re: 15/2 - Won't get 15 unless rebooting router

Thanks for your reply.

I know a scheduled task can be set up in the router, I wonder if I can set it up to reboot everynight at 3am.

birdfeedr
Premium
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS


edit:
May 11th, @08:20AM

said by sdsvtdriver :

Thanks for your reply.

I know a scheduled task can be set up in the router, I wonder if I can set it up to reboot everynight at 3am.
From the scheduler page:
"Scheduler rules are used for limiting the activation of firewall rules to specific time periods, either for days of the week, or for hours of each day"

Trying to discern the real nature of your slowdown. When your speed test shows 10/1, are there any entries in the router log that are anomalous? Check both the firewall log and the system log.

See if there is other router traffic that's taking up some of your 15/2 so your speed test looks like 10/1. Make sure your computer is on but running no user-directed programs for at least 10 minutes. If you have TV, no guide search or VOD. After 10 minutes with no activity, run your speed test. Note the results, then log in to the Actiontec, go to System Monitoring, Advanced Status, answer Yes, select Bandwidth Monitoring.

Copy and paste the stats in your reply here.

ADDED: Never mind the bandwidth monitor page of the router. It counts the bits within that minute, and displays the average per second. Speed test results will only be accurate there if it is a sustained transfer through the entire minute.


sdsvtdriver

@verizon.net

Hello,

I ran a speedtest before I went to bed last night and got the usual 15/1.8.

I just turned on my PC for today and ran a speedtest first thing. 9/1.8.

Nothing of interest in the log files, just a bunch of entries like this:

May 11 17:44:07 2008 System Log LAN DHCP DHCP LAN Connection IP:192.168.1.50, DNS:192.168.1.1,GTW:192.168.1.1,Subnet:255.255.255.0 (Wireless)
May 11 17:21:51 2008 System Log LAN DHCP DHCP LAN Connection IP:192.168.1.54, DNS:192.168.1.1,GTW:192.168.1.1,Subnet:255.255.255.0 (Wireless)
[repeated 2 times, last time on May 11 17:40:43 2008]
May 11 17:14:59 2008 System Log WAN DHCP DHCP WAN connection IP:71.177.123.xxx,DNS:68.238.64.14 68.238.96.14 ,GTW:71.177.123.1,Subnet:255.255.255.0 (WAN Ethernet)

.50 is me, .54 is the Wii.

Only other log item that differs is:

May 11 11:28:31 2008 System Log CWMP Periodic Inform 204 No Content

May 11 11:28:31 2008 System Log CWMP Periodic Inform challenge response with 200 OK from server

May 11 11:28:26 2008 System Log CWMP Periodic Inform initial 401 challenge

Router firmware version is 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7

birdfeedr
Premium
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS

said by sdsvtdriver :

Hello,

I ran a speedtest before I went to bed last night and got the usual 15/1.8.

I just turned on my PC for today and ran a speedtest first thing. 9/1.8.

[Log file entries are unremarkable]

.50 is me, .54 is the Wii.

Router firmware version is 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7
CWMP entries can be ignored at this time. It is related to port 4567 management by Verizon.

When you are getting 10/1.8 on your PC, is your Wii powered on? What happens when you shut it down? What happens when you turn off UPnP? Are there any QoS rules established that would explain the slower speeds? After you shut down the Wii, does the speed return to normal? If you reboot the router to restore normal speed test and do not turn on the Wii, does the speed test drop, or does it only drop after the Wii has been turned on?

I think when you get less than you expect on a speedtest, something else is using the rest.


sdsvtdriver

@verizon.net

When you are getting 10/1.8 on your PC, is your Wii powered on?

The Wii is rarely on, but it sits in standby periodically checking for messages or whatever Wii's do when not on. I'll turn it off completely (unplugged0 for this test.

What happens when you shut it down?
We'll see.

What happens when you turn off UPnP?
Will try that after seeing if the speed drops to ~10 with Wii off or not.

Are there any QoS rules established that would explain the slower speeds?
No.

After you shut down the Wii, does the speed return to normal?
Wii is unplugged. If speed still drops with Wii off, this test probably won't be useful, but will do it for fun.

If you reboot the router to restore normal speed test and do not turn on the Wii, does the speed test drop, or does it only drop after the Wii has been turned on?
Will see after initial "Wii off" test results are in.

I think when you get less than you expect on a speedtest, something else is using the rest.

That would have been my first guess, however so far haven't been able to pinpoint it. I did hear mumblings about the router having issues, primarily with people being on peer to peer networks, however nothing about this specifically. I was wondering if the small NAT table affected XBox live in the same manner.

Of course, I could purchase a new router and relegate the Actiontech to guide duty only, however I don't know what models to use these days. My old WRT54G won't handle the bandwidth, even with the sveasoft firmware.

Thank you again for your time and suggestions. I'll report back what I find, if anything.

Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..
·Dish Network


edit:
May 12th, @08:46AM

This site should be helpful for helping you determine a FiOS capable router. Look for the WAN to LAN throughput category. It will rank routers from the fastest throughput to the slowest throughput, including your WRT54G.

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/

On that list, a D-Link Extreme Gaming router is the fastest one there, boasting a bit over 200Mbps of theoretical throughput. A linksys WRT54G boasts around 54Mbps of theoretical throughput and below on WAN throughput. Your Linksys should be OK to handle it, given that you give it a few tweaks at the most. That is, unless you have Version 1.0 which gives a horrible 20Mbps of total throughput. If you have Version 1.0, get yourself a new router

kgeissler

join:2001-12-03
Rowlett, TX

I have coax running to my Actiontec, so unless I want to bridge another router, these will not work.

said by Smith6612 See Profile :

This site should be helpful for helping you determine a FiOS capable router. Look for the WAN to LAN throughput category. It will rank routers from the fastest throughput to the slowest throughput, including your WRT54G.

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/componen···mid,189/

On that list, a D-Link Extreme Gaming router is the fastest one there, boasting a bit over 200Mbps of theoretical throughput. A linksys WRT54G boasts around 54Mbps of theoretical throughput and below on WAN throughput. Your Linksys should be OK to handle it, given that you give it a few tweaks at the most. That is, unless you have Version 1.0 which gives a horrible 20Mbps of total throughput. If you have Version 1.0, get yourself a new router
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