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BigSensFan
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Re: Get the Mounties back on their horses....

I know 80 year olds that are as strong as oxen so age is not something that should be used as an excuse.

The man would not drop his weapon and force was used. While I think 3 times was excessive, he was warned what would happen if he didn't drop it.


BigSensFan
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Oh and for a man that was "delusional" he sure gave a pretty clear step by step of what happened.


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May 11th, @01:53PM

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I know 80 year olds that are as strong as oxen so age is not something that should be used as an excuse.
Three mounties should be sufficient to subdue one person regardless of age or strength. The issue here is not that he was 80 years old and maybe or maybe not strong or weak, it's the number of mounties and the fact that the taser was deemed necessary in another dubious situation.

A taser should not be used, in my opinion, except in the same situation in which a sidearm would be used. If there had been no officer authorized to use a taser at that hospital with that man, then what would they have done? A taser is convenient, and that is the problem.
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said by Styvas See Profile :

Three mounties should be sufficient to subdue one person regardless of age or strength. The issue here is not that he was 80 years old and maybe or maybe not strong or weak, it's the number of mounties
No, I think the major issue is that he was armed with a knife.
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vue666

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Why do people in today's society side with the criminal and not the people who risk their lives every day to help make our society a safer place?

If TO or Montreal ever has a major strike by their police officers I wonder how many of you will be happy then?


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May 11th, @04:23PM

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No, I think the major issue is that he was armed with a knife.
No, the major issue here is that cops - particularly the RCMP - are getting lazy and not wanting to get their hands dirty because they now have a weapon that they can use to subdue someone, regardless of the fact that it has an exponentially greater chance of killing someone than having one cop grab the person by the head, the other grab the left arm and the third grab the arm with the knife like they have been doing for decades before.
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said by Styvas See Profile :

Three mounties should be sufficient to subdue one person regardless of age or strength. The issue here is not that he was 80 years old and maybe or maybe not strong or weak, it's the number of mounties
No, I think the major issue is that he was armed with a knife.
And if the taser had not been available, what would your suggestion have been for handling this situation? I doubt shooting him would have been an option. So what else could they have done? The taser was convenient. That's the bottom line.
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Why do people in today's society side with the criminal and not the people who risk their lives every day to help make our society a safer place?
Simple - they aren't doing their god damn job! Their job is to use the absolute minimum force necessary in situations like this. Tasering an 80 year old man is not the minimum amount of force necessary. It's outright lazyness and bad policing skills.

If I did this kind of brute force bullshit in my industry I would lose clients and lose my job. I have absolutely no sympathy for cops that are brain dead idiots.
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