http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20466353 en Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:06:57 EDT Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:06:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471942 anon : I was able to complete the test, finally! :D According to the results, Hughes does NOT throttle port 6881 up or down. This was confirmed on a non-standard BitTorrent port as well. Details on how the test is performed can be found here.

So, did everyone get that? HUGHES DOES NOT THROTTLE/SHAPE BITTORRENT. IT IS PROVEN
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HughesNet | DW7000 | Home Plan | .74 dish | 1-Watt Trans. | GC3 1360 MHz | Router 66.82.12.51 | Rate Code=256k 2/3 | NO Static IP | Airport Extreme Base Station Firmware v5.7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471942 Mon, 12 May 2008 19:37:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471701 anon : I don't use BitTorrent, but I wanted to see if this test can prove conclusively that Hughes DOES in fact throttle/shape BT traffic so they can be added to the list of ISPs that censor customer usage and the wiki be edited to reflect that as well (right now it only mentions what you said about the NAT problem that the NOC firewall causes and nothing about any traffic shaping). I realize the general consensus is that Hughes is unfriendly towards p2p (my theory as well), but I don't want to speculate if there are alternatives. ;)

So if anyone can complete the test and post their results, that would be great!
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HughesNet | DW7000 | Home Plan | .74 dish | 1-Watt Trans. | GC3 1360 MHz | Router 66.82.12.51 | Rate Code=256k 2/3 | NO Static IP | Airport Extreme Base Station Firmware v5.7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471701 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:53:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471607 bumwolf : Hughes does throttle torrenting during prime time. But if you have a torrent with alot of seeders then you can usually download at good speeds outside of prime time. Best thing to do is get utorrent set it's scheduler to go slow until the Fap free time and then turn the faucet wide open. I can usually nab 500 to 1gb in an overnight. Lot of it depends on what your downloading. The new beta version of utorrent works the best with Hughes. They've incorporated a protocol obfuscation method to get around packet shaping technology.
Hope that helps.
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Hughesnet | DW7000 | Pro Package | Windows XP SP2 | AMD Athlon 64 3000+ | 1GB RAM | ATI Radeon 9550 256MB | 250GB HDD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471607 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:35:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470389 trekboy : While It would be very easy for me to believe that Hughes is throttling Bittorrent traffic, I think the majority of torrent slowness on Hughes is due to the fact that without a static IP you can't have incoming connections. Basically Hughes has an incoming firewall at the modem level, that you cannot disable. So whatever port you choose (6881 is the default I think) will be blocked.

Also I should warn you, it is theorized by some on this forum (including me) that using Bittorrent at all will mark you as an abuser for the 4pm-12am throttling. Just a friendly warning. :)
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HughesNet | HN7000S | Pro Plan | .74 dish | 1-Watt Trans. | IA6 1433 MHz | Router 67.44.65.112 | Rate Code=256k 4/5 | NO Static IP | WRT54G w/ DD-WRT Firmware v23 sp2]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470389 Mon, 12 May 2008 15:03:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470036 anon : Here's a link to the original post. It looks like TorrentFreak is compiling a list of ISP's that throttle/shape BitTorrent.

I still can't get past the java applet on the test server. Maybe HughesNet is blocking it? If any of you can complete the test, please let me know what the results are for our ISP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470036 Mon, 12 May 2008 13:50:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468229 anon : Well, I was unable to complete the test. For some reason the java applet is hanging on one of the last processes and not letting me through. I'm still hoping this will prove conclusively whether or not HughesNet is shaping this type of connection.

Anyone else have better luck with the test?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468229 Mon, 12 May 2008 02:44:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466353 anon : Hey all, I know the FAP policy pretty much stops torrenting for the most part, but there's a new tool to actually test if an ISP is traffic shaping. I still haven't been able to get access to the test server because it's supposedly busy, but I will post here when I have the results. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466353 Sun, 11 May 2008 17:49:13 EDT