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Thinkdiff
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May 11th, @06:33PM

reply to sfogliatelle
Re: [OS X] anyone use migration assistant?

By changing the read-write attributes, you can access the files, sure, but you are actually disrupting the natural OS X setup:

When you run Migration assistant after the initial setup, it creates a new user. You can't access those folders because you are not logged in as that user. go to the Apple Menu, then go to Log Out and re-login as the migrated user. All the old files and settings will be accessible just as they were before you switched OSes.

That's why I recommend running Migration assistant right at the setup assistant. It eliminates this "problem".


teach
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I used migration assistant as soon as the screen appeared during set up. During the last few minutes, a window came up and said something like ...did not transfer and I would have to run it again and was asked to run it again. it finished and from there I had the same results as sfogllatelle with the same folders. maybe I should reinstall, try it again and see what didn't transfer. Or, do the above and only keep the user account that did transfer.
excuse my moment of stress relief, aaaiiieeeee, lol.
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Thinkdiff
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What drive were you trying to migrate from? Or was it another mac?

Just because the folders aren't accessible by you doesn't mean it didn't work. You should have multiple user accounts on your computer. Try logging in another user to access the files.


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reply to Thinkdiff
said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

By changing the read-write attributes, you can access the files, sure, but you are actually disrupting the natural OS X setup:

When you run Migration assistant after the initial setup, it creates a new user. You can't access those folders because you are not logged in as that user. go to the Apple Menu, then go to Log Out and re-login as the migrated user. All the old files and settings will be accessible just as they were before you switched OSes.

That's why I recommend running Migration assistant right at the setup assistant. It eliminates this "problem".
I agree. When I installed Leo I used the Migration Assistant during setup connected to an external FW drive that had a cloned copy of my Tiger install. ( say that three times fast ) It worked right the first time. I'm guessing its an "account thing" too. When Migration Assistant was finished it had re-created my Tiger account in Leo.
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teach
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Thinkdiff and Badcat, thanks a ton for explaining. So migration adds transfered stuff as another user? I did see another me as a user and the files for the most part were there. I was under the impression that it would all be migrated into one user not two.

Badcat, do you still have two users or did you combine the files into one user? Just seems odd to have two me's, lol, but thinking about it as I type, it doesn't sound so bad.

Thanks guys for your help, you are better than Apple's help pages.
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Thinkdiff
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Migration assistant works like this:

1. It searches your external disk/Mac for User folders, network settings, Applications, etc.
2. If it finds a User folder, it searches the current system for existing users. If an existing user matches the same name as the user on the external disk, it changes the name of the external user while it copies everything into your Mac (creating the new user in the process). This "new" user has completely different permissions from your current user, hence the read/write restrictions. This is the way UNIX/OS X is supposed to work. It sees you as two completely separate users, so you shouldn't be able to see each others files.
3. It repeats the process for each additional user on the external if there are any

The exception to this is when there are no users in the current system (at the first, initial bootup after doing a clean install of the OS). If there are no users to check against, it just automatically creates a new user using all the settings from the existing user on the external drive. That's why it's better to do Migration Assistant before you touch or set up anything else on the system.

If that's not possible, it's best to create a fake user during the initial OS X setup. Create a user with a name you'd never use. Then use Migration Assistant to bring in your real user name/folder. Login as the "new you", and delete the fake account.


teach
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Thanks. I guess the new account might've happened when I migrated a second time. I think I will erase, reinstall and migrate again.


teach
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well, I don't know that I did anything different but I used erase and install and migrated except this time it all worked!!! whew, thanks again all.
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reply to teach
said by teach See Profile

Badcat, do you still have two users or did you combine the files into one user? Just seems odd to have two me's, lol, but thinking about it as I type, it doesn't sound so bad.

Thanks guys for your help, you are better than Apple's help pages.
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I just ended up with the one account, which is what I was hoping for. I had used the Migration Assistant when I first bought my iMac and it worked fine then too. I should mention that I only have the one account. I don't have multiple users. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.
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reply to Thinkdiff
said by Thinkdiff See Profile :

The exception to this is when there are no users in the current system (at the first, initial bootup after doing a clean install of the OS). If there are no users to check against, it just automatically creates a new user using all the settings from the existing user on the external drive. That's why it's better to do Migration Assistant before you touch or set up anything else on the system.

Bingo! That's probably why it worked so well for me in the past. I've always used it on either a brand machine or when I did a clean install of Leo on my iMac.
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sfogliatelle
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reply to Thinkdiff
I confess being a tad too impatient to get all my previous files/folders loaded onto the new internal drive, and too embarrassed to appear to be asking for repeated assistance with an issue I didn't have the foggiest of clues about, Td.

As teach See Profile said, you and badcat See Profile are light years more helpful, intuitive and quicker (not to mention a heckuva lot friendlier) than any other mac-related forum I've been to!

Not to beat this dead horse into any more of a state of rigor-mortis than it already is, but you'd written before that "changing the read-write attributes, you can access the files...but you are actually disrupting the natural OS X setup", which got me to thinking (especially since it was in direct response to my post about my meddlesome altering of read-write attributes in files which I didn't have access to, the reason for which is now known)---seeing as how I haven't done the Migration thing with any of my previous Tiger Applications yet, and that the number of new installed apps on the new internal have been but a small, numbered few, would you suggest an erase and re-install of Leopard, only this time using the Setup Assistant?


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said by sfogliatelle See Profile :

I confess being a tad too impatient to get all my previous files/folders loaded onto the new internal drive, and too embarrassed to appear to be asking for repeated assistance with an issue I didn't have the foggiest of clues about, Td.

As teach See Profile said, you and badcat See Profile are light years more helpful, intuitive and quicker (not to mention a heckuva lot friendlier) than any other mac-related forum I've been to!

Not to beat this dead horse into any more of a state of rigor-mortis than it already is, but you'd written before that "changing the read-write attributes, you can access the files...but you are actually disrupting the natural OS X setup", which got me to thinking (especially since it was in direct response to my post about my meddlesome altering of read-write attributes in files which I didn't have access to, the reason for which is now known)---seeing as how I haven't done the Migration thing with any of my previous Tiger Applications yet, and that the number of new installed apps on the new internal have been but a small, numbered few, would you suggest an erase and re-install of Leopard, only this time using the Setup Assistant?
Thanks for the kind words. I'm always glad to help, but so rarely helpful. Though when it comes to OSX I am Luke to TD's Yoda... As far as a clean install goes, if you're up for it, why not? If you have all your data backed it seems to be a fairly low risk option. But, it is up to you of course!
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