[motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta in Computer Hardware Help http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20466587 en Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:00:23 EDT Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:00:23 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20504111 johnpsph : Thanks, I'm sure I'll post back if I can't get it working. However, the Asus Mobo I ordered (P5VD2) uses a VIA LAN chipset, so hopefully one of my Realtek NIC's should work. We shall see.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20504111 Sun, 18 May 2008 23:02:11 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503371 kba4 : I think that if you have the RAID and a network interface onboard, they'll work just fine, as designed. And adding additional cards should work fine as well, within the reasoning that they're not all somewhat-identical (chipsets, etc.). good luck with your setup!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503371 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:15:14 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503244 johnpsph : Ugh, I just broke down and ordered an Asus mobo that supports SATA II RAID 0/1. I'm hoping that it will work with one of my existing NIC's, but if not, I'll order an Intel NIC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503244 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:45:41 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20499701 anon :
said by johnpsph See Profile :

As I mentioned, I did try more than one PCI NIC, but all of them had Realtek chipsets. I guess i'm probably going to give up at this point...
Most all cheap NICs use Realtek.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20499701 Sat, 17 May 2008 21:49:40 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20499079 kba4 : your best bet is probably to replace the mobo with one that has both onboard LAN (preferably x2) and RAID capabilities. There are some good reasonably priced ASUS boards out there that should work fine for your purposes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20499079 Sat, 17 May 2008 18:51:25 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20499028 johnpsph : Wonderful. It looks like this particular chipset (Sil 3132) is very popular for SATA II RAID 0/1, I'm having a touch time finding anything else in a reasonable price range. As I mentioned, I did try more than one PCI NIC, but all of them had Realtek chipsets. I guess i'm probably going to give up at this point...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20499028 Sat, 17 May 2008 18:36:09 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482119 johnpsph : All right, I tried checking the Chipset of the RAID controller on google versus the chipset(s) of the NIC's I'm using, but with no luck. I think I'm going to try to simply return this controller and try another one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482119 Wed, 14 May 2008 15:37:09 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482100 johnpsph : I realize I'm using a really basic hardware setup at this point. I'm really just using it to get some aspects of 2k3 figured out to see how I'd best like to configure it later in a real environment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20482100 Wed, 14 May 2008 15:32:54 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20478801 kba4 : just a thought: you're using rather basic components to run a server. I'll admit, I've gotten server 2k and 2k3 up and running on low-end components but I wouldn't expect this to always be the case. the people who buy server typically spend a grand or so on software alone, and the hardware can run into the $2-3K range just for a basic system.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20478801 Tue, 13 May 2008 23:20:58 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20478304 anon : Wow, really does have just two PCI slots: »www.intel.com/products/motherboa···ndex.htm
And I thought my Supermicro H8SSLi was lacking in slots...

This sounds like an IRQ problem. You might check what IRQs each is trying to use with only one of each installed. Another can be if the add-in board ROM can't be loaded, that can be solved by disabling the option to boot from a RAID card if you're not booting from it, or disabling booting from the network of a NIC (PXE). You can also trying disabling anything in the BIOS that you are not using floppy, PATA, serial, etc. The latter may free up IRQs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20478304 Tue, 13 May 2008 21:55:36 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477783 johnpsph : Yup, tried both slots.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477783 Tue, 13 May 2008 20:21:58 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477263 anon : Have you tried different slots?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20477263 Tue, 13 May 2008 18:43:31 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476455 HRM : There sure is a conflict there in the most basic sense. You should be able to google the NIC chipset and/or the controller and find others with issues. Probably many before you have found this issue. Someone may even know the answer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20476455 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:07:33 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20474311 johnpsph : Sadly, updating the BIOS did nothing to help. I'm beginnging to wonder if either my NIC(s) or RAID controller are to blame]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20474311 Tue, 13 May 2008 09:12:09 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473930 HRM : THis is the kind of a thing that a bios update might address. Sorry about the reinstall, but you tried everything else. It seems a really severe hardware conflict.

THe only thing I can think of is trying some sort of USB nic that can be introduced after windows is going.

A common chipset might be the cause. Finding out what your nics have in common would be good to start on that path as suggested.

EDIT: I realise now that after you got the NIC, maybe you should have just tried to install the controler, without hooking the drives to it. I don't think it would have mattered since you can't get into windows at all with it all assembled.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473930 Tue, 13 May 2008 05:58:46 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473624 kba4 : not that I can promise anything but others that may read this thread could use all the info possible to solve the problem here. post the NIC's you've tried (brand, model), maybe there's something in common with them all. What I'm getting at is, perhaps an investment in a higher-end NIC, something made by 3COM or Intel, would be worthwhile. of course without knowing much about your past attempts, it's hard to say.

also, let's not rule out the other things entirely: RAM, mobo, HDD's- these can all potentially create problems of their own too.
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when will these humans realize their insignifigance in the universe?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473624 Tue, 13 May 2008 01:58:21 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473585 johnpsph : Well, I'm just finally getting 2k3 reinstalled, and I'm also updating the BIOS to see if that might help. Otherwise, i'm pretty much at a dead end, so I could still really use some help]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473585 Tue, 13 May 2008 01:43:07 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473573 kba4 : let us know if and when it's working, my experience with 2k3 (and 2k) server is hit and miss for some things. for instance, running RRaS to share the net on a domain can sometimes work only when the NIC's (two are required) are initialized in a certain particular order. I've never found the actual rhyme or reason to it, and always had to use trial and error: Stop RRaS, open Network Connections and Disable one and then both adapters, Start RRaS, Enable one and then the other adapter... rinse repeat sometimes 100x or more and eventually it works. thankfully the reboots are far and few between with 2k3 but 2k needed them at almost every windows update! ah well...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473573 Tue, 13 May 2008 01:37:53 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473445 johnpsph : Ouch. That worked, but when I set it back up with the raid, I ended up with the same problem, and I couldn't boot windows, so i had to reinstall]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20473445 Tue, 13 May 2008 00:50:38 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471843 HRM : This is an odd situation. I might try taking out one drive and the SATA controller and see if you can get the NIC installed, then replace the controller.

This may totally hose things, but once it gets into windows and is detected, maybe it will get past this issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471843 Mon, 12 May 2008 19:17:34 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471817 kba4 : on page 70 of the Intel PDF I linked, it says that PCI devices (both on-board and add-in) are auto-configured at boot. so what you must do is find the setting that changes the available IRQ's. this gets kind of technical, a little above my current level of education on the matter, but basically you'll need to find out how much memory your PCI NIC needs to function (look in manual or on the website) and set that amount as the range to disclude in the available IRQ in BIOS. Now you need to manually install the NIC in windows, which again is above me, though it should be pretty straight-forward. what I do know is that you can go to Add Hardware (in XP, and I'm hoping 2k3 too) and enter in the information when asked.

I hope this works, otherwise both of us need to go to A+ Cert for a refresher ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471817 Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:02 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471658 johnpsph : THanks again for the reply. To be honest, this mobo has a really bad BIOS interface, I looked through and didn't see anything on IRQ settings.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471658 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:45:23 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471573 kba4 : a few links that may work for you before we go into IRQ's, and while I research just how to access the IRQ settings on your board.

»support.intel.com/support/mother···tm#ctrli

Intel PDF - Scroll down to page 43]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471573 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:30:08 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471453 johnpsph : Thanks so much for your reply, but I honestly have no idea how to go about applying the BIOS fix you've suggested. Could you give me a bit more detail, or point me to a page? Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20471453 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:05:20 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470164 kba4 : sounds like an IRQ issue. You may be able to fix it fastest by going to the BIOS and checking that the IRQ numbers are far apart from one another.

windows may also have a way to change this too.

the problem is most likely that the RAID card is using a dedicated range of RAM addresses while the NIC doesn't need a dedicated range, though it's configured by default to use it anyway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20470164 Mon, 12 May 2008 14:18:16 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468074 johnpsph : I'm using the box as a server 2003 lab machine and want dual NICS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20468074 Mon, 12 May 2008 01:36:40 EDT Re: [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20467988 yuutomo : well, there's questions that need to be asked and answered before we move onto the current issue.

1. why are you installing a NIC when the mobo has one?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20467988 Mon, 12 May 2008 01:00:05 EDT [motherboard] Computer can't see RAID drives with NIC insta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466587 johnpsph : So I have a computer with the following specs:

Intel D945GCCRL Mobo
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz
1.5GB RAM
StarTech PEXSATA22 PCI Express SATA II Controller
2x 80GB SATA II drives in RAID 1 array

Everything works perfects in the setup listed above. However, I would like to add a second NIC, so I've tried installing THREE different PCI NIC's, and get the same problem every time:

When I boot, I normally get the Intel boot screen, then a screen that displays my RAID Controller model and array. After I install any of the NIC's, I just get a screen showing the controller, but it can't see the hard drives. I've tried using different PCI slots, but to no avail. I'm really frustrated and at my wit's end, so if anyone can offer some advice, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20466587 Sun, 11 May 2008 18:55:07 EDT