 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN
1 edit | Are you guys stupid? It's 3 computers not 3 installs on the same computer. Any reason why you need to install it on any more than that at one time LEGALLY? |
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 ThalerPremium
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| said by BF69:Any reason why you need to install it on any more than that at one time LEGALLY? When you want to play the game you own on more than 3 systems? 
Sorry, I own more than one system at my home. Any single-player (ie. not online) game that requires that I fool around with Add/Remove on other machines to play the game I own isn't worth the packaging it comes in.
I can't believe companies do this, then wonder why their PC gaming sales aren't doing well. While the PC game experience is usually superior vs. consoles, having to deal with the "latest and greatest" DRM hassles turn people off. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Thaler:said by BF69:Any reason why you need to install it on any more than that at one time LEGALLY? When you want to play the game you own on more than 3 systems? Sorry, I own more than one system at my home. Any single-player (ie. not online) game that requires that I fool around with Add/Remove on other machines to play the game I own isn't worth the packaging it comes in. You have more than 3 computers at home you would want to play it on at one time? Not likely. Can you play an XBOX 360 or PS3 game on more than ONE system at a time? No. You should feel lucky you get THREE. |
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ThalerPremium
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| said by BF69:You have more than 3 computers at home you would want to play it on at one time? Not likely. Did I say I want to play a single-player game on 3 computers at the same time? No. I just want to use my software where and when I want with minimal fuss. Having to enter into Add/Remove (or whatever the deactivation tool might be) on other machines to get *my* game to work isn't something I want to be paying for.
I give EA kudos on eliminating the disc requirements to play the game. However, the limiting installs just reverts back to irritating DRMs that legit customers are subjected to. (well, until you get the "special" edition)
...and yeah, I can play my XBox and/or PS3 games on any number of consoles w/o worrying about where I may have "activated" (ie. played) the game previously. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Thaler:Did I say I want to play a single-player game on 3 computers at the same time? No. I just want to use my software where and when I want with minimal fuss. Having to enter into Add/Remove (or whatever the deactivation tool might be) on other machines to get *my* game to work isn't something I want to be paying for. I'm not sure where you're getting this add/remove crap from. You don't read too well. You can have the game on 3 machines AT THE SAME TIME. I doubt you have more than 3 computers at your house that you would want this game on. And if you do you can afford 2 copies of the game.
...and yeah, I can play my XBox and/or PS3 games on any number of consoles w/o worrying about where I may have "activated" (ie. played) the game previously.
Sorry but if you have 2 XBOXes in your house you will need TWO copies of a game to play both systems at the same time. FACT. |
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ThalerPremium
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| said by BF69:I doubt you have more than 3 computers at your house that you would want this game on. And if you do you can afford 2 copies of the game. Yes, I do own more than 3 computers capable of running games, but your point is irrelevant. Why should I pay twice (or more) of the sales amount for what a product should do as is? If anything, that's even less of a reason to buy games with these hinderances.
Sorry but if you have 2 XBOXes in your house you will need TWO copies of a game to play both systems at the same time. Why do you keep projecting that I want to play the game on more than one system at the same time? I think you are confused.
Put it this way, say me and my friend have an XBox. I take said game to his house, play, and then take it home. I can do this *any* number of times with *any* number of friends. I can't do this with the PC game as it ships, even amoung my own damn machines.
Thus, the PC game is an inferior product from my viewpoint. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to BF69
said by BF69:said by Thaler:said by BF69:Any reason why you need to install it on any more than that at one time LEGALLY? When you want to play the game you own on more than 3 systems? Sorry, I own more than one system at my home. Any single-player (ie. not online) game that requires that I fool around with Add/Remove on other machines to play the game I own isn't worth the packaging it comes in. You have more than 3 computers at home you would want to play it on at one time? Not likely. Can you play an XBOX 360 or PS3 game on more than ONE system at a time? No. You should feel lucky you get THREE. Sorry, bad comparison.
Most games do not install completely on the consoles.
They require the disc to play and without modding the deck, that's just the way it is.
I have 4 laptops(3 that could play one of these POS games)
Take one with me to someones house or where ever...
I HAVE TO carry the disc or discs? No thanks!
Since copying the game and using a "working copy" has been taboo-ed, that means take the original and risk it getting thrashed. Not Happening!
I install games and get/make NoCD/NoDVD patches and have a bunch of games at my disposal - NO DISCS NEEDED!
Ok, say I decide to take laptop #2 this time... same applies!
Laptop #3 - Same!
Laptop #4 is a dinosaur, it aint playing too much of anything that is available today. Oh well!  
ALSO Let's not forget LAN Parties.
AquaBlaze may want to have a LAN Party.
Having 3 or more machines lit up already with the game connected would be cool as hell!
It would be a great way to get it started at least, don't ya think?
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"I doubt you have more than 3 computers at your house that you would want this game on. And if you do you can afford 2 copies of the game..."
Aquablaze was stating that regardless how many computers he has (none of your business and in no way affects you), that he should be able to install his purchased game on every single one of them as it is his property.
Financial status should have NOTHING to do with an individual's rights. Last time I checked, rights are supposedly given equally and not offered in a "tiered" model according to how wealthy a person is. That's the same crap mentality that makes people think it's ok to sue a Dr, just because "they have lots of money and can afford it", completely disregarding the fact that they worked extremely hard to earn what they have. |
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ThalerPremium
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Actually dadkins, the games in question are single-player games. To EA's credit, they did away with the disc-required DRM check. However, they still have left the game with a limited number of installs, which scraps the convenience factor of being able to install the software on my multiple computers.
With LAN parties, at least using legal sales channels, you're supposed to have one copy of software for each system running said software. I just don't want to pay for software that's tied down to X number of installs before becoming FUBAR, even though I only want to run one instance of the software at any given time. (ie. like consoles) |
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Ok, was just a thought! 
I still would hate to buy a copy for each laptop myself, ya know?
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ThalerPremium
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| said by dadkins:I still would hate to buy a copy for each laptop myself, ya know? True, but I play on the up and up. For the games I enjoy that I plan to have running at multiple times (ie. my LAN party setups), I actually do go out and buy copies for each machine.
God, I have so many Starcraft/Warcraft/Diablo discs from back in the day. XD |
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Why? Because vitually every other OS or application you purchase is licensed to 1 (one) computer. In some cases they will allow you to install it on one laptop and one desktop. They are being kind enough to allow you to put it on 3 (if I understand the posts here). So stop the whining and buy multiple copies if you need to. Otherwise figure out a way to violate the TOS and illegally install it on more. But no matter what, stop whining and buck up. |
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ThalerPremium
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| said by Skippy25:Why? Because vitually every other OS or application you purchase is licensed to 1 (one) computer. Last I checked, MS Word and Windows weren't competing for sales on consoles. PC games are aimed at their console equivolents. If I can't use a PC game in the same manner a console game operates, well, its crap.
said by Skippy25:But no matter what, stop whining and buck up. No, I just don't pay for crap, and the problem is solved on my end. I just don't like when people blame piracy for the faults caused by DRM stupidity. |
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to Thaler
No idea about LAN parties except the bare basics(several computers all connected, same game and no internet involved)
Never done one or been to one - thanks for the info though!
I meant kinda like you.
Buy one for this laptop and another for each of the other two?
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If you can only get a Ferrari in Red and you don't like Red, then don't buy the damn car.
Same applies here. If you don't like the rules associated with buying their software, then don't buy there software. It is that plain and simple. But of course, you like so many, think everyone should give you what you want when you want it. ME ME ME.
Well too bad... if you can't accept what they require then move on and get something that you do. If this requires your poor little self to settle for something inferior, that is the CHOICE that YOU made for not being willing to abide by the rules they established on THEIR software. |
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ThalerPremium
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| You make it sound though as if their bonehead decision hurts me. It doesn't in the least, but it does turn me off from buying said product, and I'm sure I'm not the only one in this position either. I just dislike when game companies read these declining sales as the "OMG PIRACY!" problem...when its really them shooting themselves in their own foot.
...and yeah, when I buy anything, it is about me. If the product (and/or the terms that come with it) are crap, I don't buy it. Call me selfish, but that's how I roll. |
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 TechieZeroTools Are Using MePremium
join:2002-01-25
Gibsonton, FL | reply to Thaler
I like games that are really LAN friendly. Dawn of War is a great example. You can install it on several PCs, and play them all LAN, but if you want to use their Multiplayer service, thats when you need your own account. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to dadkins
said by dadkins:Ok, was just a thought! I still would hate to buy a copy for each laptop myself, ya know? But you don't need to since they already said you don't need the disc to play the game once it's installed. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to stickfigure
said by stickfigure:"I doubt you have more than 3 computers at your house that you would want this game on. And if you do you can afford 2 copies of the game..." Aquablaze was stating that regardless how many computers he has (none of your business and in no way affects you), that he should be able to install his purchased game on every single one of them as it is his property. Financial status should have NOTHING to do with an individual's rights. Last time I checked, rights are supposedly given equally and not offered in a "tiered" model according to how wealthy a person is. That's the same crap mentality that makes people think it's ok to sue a Dr, just because "they have lots of money and can afford it", completely disregarding the fact that they worked extremely hard to earn what they have. Appearantly you have never bought any software ever. Since the VAST majority of it allows you to have it on ONE computer at a time. ONE. If you have 6 computers at home and they all need an OS and you want XP you'll need 6 copies. You can't LEGALLY use one disc and install it on all 6 computers.
All tis talk about "rights" is silly. You're "rights" are spelled out in the EULA and most of them don't grant you the "right" to install on as many computers as you wish. And if you have an issue with that don't buy the software and don't use it. |
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ThalerPremium
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Los Angeles, CA
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| said by BF69:You can't LEGALLY use one disc and install it on all 6 computers. With many games, I can. I may need to bring the disc around (or something), but it keeps it from running on more than one machine at any given time.
Plus, if I wanted to be on total legal up-and-up on this regard, I could install/uninstall wherever I go. But again, if I have to pay extra for this "feature", then the whole thing is bunk. I'd say I could wait for a console port, but seeing as how these games came to consoles first (lol), the point is moot.
...well, that's assuming that even adding/removing programs from computers sucessfully returns you one of your 3 installs. This software would be a complete failure if you're only allowed 3 installs *period* before it craps out. |
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