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Abattoir
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| reply to hmmmmmaybe
Re: Another form of protest to bells throttling
said by hmmmmmaybe :
turning off the lights on earth hour and then back on almost at the same time , could of overloaded the servers or what not, but was that illegal?
overloading the server in protest isn't illegal,cause ur doing it to demonstrate
If your doing it to take bell down that would be illegal
1. No, Earth Hour wasn't going to overload anything, because it was a relatively small amount of power savings, and the power grid is designed to handle those kinds of surges. We have 2 every workday, at 9AM and 5PM.
2. "I'm protesting" isn't an excuse to do anything you like. Using that logic, instead of overloading a server, why not cut the power to a CO? Or steal a police cruiser and drive it into Bell's HQ?
You have the right to:
- demonstrate peacefully
- exercise free speech to denounce their actions
- lobby the government to make their actions illegal
- exercise your choices via the free market and punish them financially
I suggest you start there. | |
hmmmmmaybe
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| Earth hour was concern for many that it was going to disrupt power when the power was turn on at once, and surge it, that is why they kept a close eye on it, therefore it wasn't a relatively small amount as you say, if it was, it would of not been made into a concern,
Protesting to Downwload a lot is what some people pay for
Hence Unlimited, then putting a limit of 200gigs or 60gigs If a group of people want to download
20 videos at once, what are you going to do? stop them? no one says they can't get together with 20 different connections and download videos if they want to organize that they can, and its not illegal, cause they aren't DDOS anyone system but using their bandwidth to their advantage. | |
Guspaz
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| Regardless of if it's illegal, it's stupid. It doesn't hurt Bell, because there is a fixed pipe size from TekSavvy to Bell.
The only people who are hurt by such things are TekSavvy and their customers. As their customers, we don't look too kindly upon such suggestions.
Also, your conditions for if something is illegal is flawed; by your definition, DDoS attacks are perfectly legal, because everybody is just using the bandwidth they paid for. | |
Abattoir
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| reply to hmmmmmaybe
LOL - the Earth hour bit is getting a little off topic. Let me just say that you should read up on that a bit. It was never actually a real concern. We are talking about < 10% of the used power, after all.
»www.earthhour.org/faq
I would have PMd you that, but you're posting anonymously. Can you even PM an anonymous poster?
Anyway, what Guspaz just posted is 100% correct.
a) It won't hurt Bell.
b) It will hurt Teksavvy and its customers.
c) it IS illegal.
said by hmmmmmaybe :
20 videos at once, what are you going to do? stop them? no one says they can't get together with 20 different connections and download videos if they want to organize that they can, and its not illegal, cause they aren't DDOS anyone system but using their bandwidth to their advantage.
Yes it is illegal. When you are intentionally attempting to cause damage or disrupt service, it is illegal and you are breaking your terms of service as well. It doesn't have to be a very good DDoS to be illegal. When you organize with other people to do this at the same time to increase the efficacy of your DDoS, this is called conspiracy.
Moving on now. Maybe its time for someone to lock the thread. Or maybe it's just time for me to stop responding.  | |
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