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GOLFnSUN
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 Privacy issue just an excuse to file blocking complaint

It's the communication with customers (or lack thereof) about the use of such gear that has CIPPIC upset (much like the FCC/Comcast fight).
I don't believe that for a second. It is the blocking that has his panties in a twist, and he is using the privacy issue as the hook to try and end blocking. If Bell Canada makes the policy official and posts it in their TOS, he would find some other excuse to file a complaint.
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If you lived in Canada believe you me you'd believe it.


Devanchya
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I'm not a fan of Bell at the moment. Hell I miss the old days when Bell was still a decent company.

But Michael has long, very very long, history of being anti-bell. Not all of it is justified .


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said by Devanchya See Profile :

I'm not a fan of Bell at the moment. Hell I miss the old days when Bell was still a decent company.

But Michael has long, very very long, history of being anti-bell. Not all of it is justified .
Michael is and always has been FOR the consumer and for the consumer rights. It just so happens that Bell has always been anti consumer and anti consumer rights, hence your wrong assumption.

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TK is anti consumer.He is all for companies.Just read his posts.He is allways against the consumer.

Bell's practice as it stands (only according to bell's info since they don't tell)is that they check headers.Baloney I know but if you give a corporation 1 inch they will take a mile.Stop it now before it gets out of hand.


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said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

It's the communication with customers (or lack thereof) about the use of such gear that has CIPPIC upset (much like the FCC/Comcast fight).
I don't believe that for a second. It is the blocking that has his panties in a twist, and he is using the privacy issue as the hook to try and end blocking. If Bell Canada makes the policy official and posts it in their TOS, he would find some other excuse to file a complaint.
Read PIPEDA. Understand the complaint and its ramifications. Brush up on TCP/IP packet construction and current routing procedures. Achieve a basic understanding of federal law, contract law, and the interaction of the two.

Then, post back.


canuckian

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Regardless of any ones "feelings" towards bell as a company, based on personal experience or not, what they are doing is wrong, immoral, and from what I have read and understand about PIPEDA, against the law.

I hope for EVERY BODY'S sake, that this comes to a greater light and people start to realize just how dangerous it is for us to let big business to go dancing around in the average citizens "backyard". They may very well only be using this to better regulate and throttle traffic. But if they are doing it without telling their customers about it, what else are they doing without our knowledge..........


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said by Capitalist :

said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

It's the communication with customers (or lack thereof) about the use of such gear that has CIPPIC upset (much like the FCC/Comcast fight).
I don't believe that for a second. It is the blocking that has his panties in a twist, and he is using the privacy issue as the hook to try and end blocking. If Bell Canada makes the policy official and posts it in their TOS, he would find some other excuse to file a complaint.
Read PIPEDA. Understand the complaint and its ramifications. Brush up on TCP/IP packet construction and current routing procedures. Achieve a basic understanding of federal law, contract law, and the interaction of the two.

Then, post back.
Excellent reply, my thoughts also. But you are not familiar with our resident reactionary anti-consumer. Before you pass judgement I should defend our friend here on BBR. He is most definitely not a paid shill, as his posts are neither viral nor intelligent enough to be professional.


GOLFnSUN
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reply to Capitalist
said by Capitalist :

said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

It's the communication with customers (or lack thereof) about the use of such gear that has CIPPIC upset (much like the FCC/Comcast fight).
I don't believe that for a second. It is the blocking that has his panties in a twist, and he is using the privacy issue as the hook to try and end blocking. If Bell Canada makes the policy official and posts it in their TOS, he would find some other excuse to file a complaint.
Read PIPEDA. Understand the complaint and its ramifications. Brush up on TCP/IP packet construction and current routing procedures. Achieve a basic understanding of federal law, contract law, and the interaction of the two.

Then, post back.
I read up on it. And it looks like Canada's CRTC( »Canadian Regulators Deny Relief For Bell Canada Traffic Shaping ) doesn't think much of PIPEDA and it's application to Bell Canada's privacy policies and deep packet inspection as a blocking tool. But maybe a privacy commissioner may rule differently. But I wouldn't bet on it.
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