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HiVolt
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Re: Any ideas how to Do MLPP ? with xp?

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Here is an idea for the people who have non-WRT54G linux capable routers, to temporarily use the MLPPP trick in Windows, in order to bypass the traffic shaping.

Set your modem in bridge mode & disable its DHCP server, and your router should be configured to use your TekSavvy PPPoE login, as usual.

What the loopback wiring allows you to do, is to establish a PPPoE connection using Windows XP, with the multilink checkbox, while your router is still connected in the mix and can still supply your other PCs or devices with internet. When you connect in Windows using it's built in PPPoE, it overrides whatever is supplied by your router, so you can download a torrent or use whatever application is affected by the DPI.

However, as you can see, it eats up two ports on a typical 4 port router. If you have another switch with more ethernet ports, you can easily uplink to your router and your problem is solved. Also, as this creates a direct IP connection to your machine, it bypasses the firewall of your router. So make sure to at least enable the Windows firewall, or use some other firewall software of your choice. Otherwise, you're left exposed to the net with a direct IP. One last thing. If you have a singlestatic IP, you will have to manually force a disconnect in your router's web interface, as an account with a single static IP will not be able to connect again unless its disconnected. You can then establish the PPPoE in Windows.

As an added bonus, you can now access your modem's line stats without unhooking your router. Just make sure the modem's IP address is different than the router's. If not, change one, for example the modem 192.168.1.254 (ST516), router 192.168.1.1
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eots

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I have my modem connected to the router WAN port and I can still make the 2nd PPPoE connection through WinXP with Multi-link enabled and it works perfectly without the loopback.


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said by eots See Profile :

I have my modem connected to the router WAN port and I can still make the 2nd PPPoE connection through WinXP with Multi-link enabled and it works perfectly without the loopback.
Really? That's neat. I guess your router somehow allows the LAN ports to connect to the modem. What brand router?
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Guspaz_Anon

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reply to HiVolt
In the WRT54G, all ports are on a single five-port switch, and the WAN port is isolated from the other four via VLANs.


HiVolt
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said by Guspaz_Anon :

In the WRT54G, all ports are on a single five-port switch, and the WAN port is isolated from the other four via VLANs.
Yeah I saw you mention that in the other thread, but does it allow to establish pppoe thru it? or access the modem's web interface?
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Hivolt: Yes actually on the Dlink 655 their is an option to forward lan pppoe requests out. A nice feature great for testing stuff without reconfiguring everything. I have one myself but as I have said it's just a big ol expensive Gbps switch and wireless N point now. As I am on day 40 of my pppoe session using pfsense With the dlink I was lucky to get past 13 days.
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said by daboom See Profile :

Hivolt: Yes actually on the Dlink 655 their is an option to forward lan pppoe requests out. A nice feature great for testing stuff without reconfiguring everything. I have one myself but as I have said it's just a big ol expensive Gbps switch and wireless N point now. As I am on day 40 of my pppoe session using pfsense With the dlink I was lucky to get past 13 days.
Ah, that is a pretty cool feature. I never encountered any router that would do that, so thats why i proposed the workaround with the WAN loopback.
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eots

join:2003-02-04
It must be enabled by default because I can't even find it.

daboom

join:2001-12-16
Oshawa, ON
Nor can I anymore I know the earlier Firmwares had it.

DjEclipse

join:2007-11-20
Niagara Falls, ON
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reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt See Profile :

Here is an idea for the people who have non-WRT54G linux capable routers, to temporarily use the MLPPP trick in Windows, in order to bypass the traffic shaping.

Set your modem in bridge mode & disable its DHCP server, and your router should be configured to use your TekSavvy PPPoE login, as usual.

What the loopback wiring allows you to do, is to establish a PPPoE connection using Windows XP, with the multilink checkbox, while your router is still connected in the mix and can still supply your other PCs or devices with internet. When you connect in Windows using it's built in PPPoE, it overrides whatever is supplied by your router, so you can download a torrent or use whatever application is affected by the DPI.

However, as you can see, it eats up two ports on a typical 4 port router. If you have another switch with more ethernet ports, you can easily uplink to your router and your problem is solved. Also, as this creates a direct IP connection to your machine, it bypasses the firewall of your router. So make sure to at least enable the Windows firewall, or use some other firewall software of your choice. Otherwise, you're left exposed to the net with a direct IP. One last thing. If you have a singlestatic IP, you will have to manually force a disconnect in your router's web interface, as an account with a single static IP will not be able to connect again unless its disconnected. You can then establish the PPPoE in Windows.

As an added bonus, you can now access your modem's line stats without unhooking your router. Just make sure the modem's IP address is different than the router's. If not, change one, for example the modem 192.168.1.254 (ST516), router 192.168.1.1
When I set up the router like in the picture I had internet so I made the 2nd connection. It worked, I was able to have 2 connections. There was a high pitch sound coming from either the computer or modem though. As soon as I clicked disconnect on the PPPOE connection the high pitch sound went away.

I tried the set up again and it doesn't work any more. As soon as I plug in the loup back from port 1 to WAN the high pitch sound is back.

Any ideas? How do you check if your router is in Loup mode and that the DCHP server is disabled? I tried through the modem set up but the only options it gave me is "auto connect on disconnect". It's a speadstream 4200.

dell112009

join:2008-06-29
Brampton, ON

reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt See Profile :

Here is an idea for the people who have non-WRT54G linux capable routers, to temporarily use the MLPPP trick in Windows, in order to bypass the traffic shaping.

Set your modem in bridge mode & disable its DHCP server, and your router should be configured to use your TekSavvy PPPoE login, as usual.

What the loopback wiring allows you to do, is to establish a PPPoE connection using Windows XP, with the multilink checkbox, while your router is still connected in the mix and can still supply your other PCs or devices with internet. When you connect in Windows using it's built in PPPoE, it overrides whatever is supplied by your router, so you can download a torrent or use whatever application is affected by the DPI.

However, as you can see, it eats up two ports on a typical 4 port router. If you have another switch with more ethernet ports, you can easily uplink to your router and your problem is solved. Also, as this creates a direct IP connection to your machine, it bypasses the firewall of your router. So make sure to at least enable the Windows firewall, or use some other firewall software of your choice. Otherwise, you're left exposed to the net with a direct IP. One last thing. If you have a singlestatic IP, you will have to manually force a disconnect in your router's web interface, as an account with a single static IP will not be able to connect again unless its disconnected. You can then establish the PPPoE in Windows.

As an added bonus, you can now access your modem's line stats without unhooking your router. Just make sure the modem's IP address is different than the router's. If not, change one, for example the modem 192.168.1.254 (ST516), router 192.168.1.1
When HiVolt's setup is working, are the other computers connected to the router WITHOUT MLPP still protected by the routers firewall?

In other words, when a connection is made with MLPP, that PC is the only one on the network not protected and needs a firewall like ZoneAlarm?

Please confirm.


moggy

join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON

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I was close to ordering a linksys WRT54GL but after using HiVolt's fix I don't need to thanks big time


HiVolt
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reply to dell112009
said by dell112009 See Profile :

When HiVolt's setup is working, are the other computers connected to the router WITHOUT MLPP still protected by the routers firewall?

In other words, when a connection is made with MLPP, that PC is the only one on the network not protected and needs a firewall like ZoneAlarm?

Please confirm.
Yes, that is correct. You need a firewall when you create a direct connection on the computer. Other machines with a connection thru the router are not affected, as they are still behind the router's NAT routing.
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