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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/736939"><b>GTaylor</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  CultofSkaro <A HREF="/useremail/u/1549599"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Anybody notice how this topic magically distracted the public from surgng fuel costs and food shoratges?  Yeah that is the ONLY reason a senator is involved.  This is nothing more then a witch hunt.  I'd post this on espn but their nazi forum policies get me banned at least once a week.(Typical day somebody starts a race or political war and if you don't agree with them they report you.  Espn being owned by abc/disney, no longer knows how to investigate and they simply violate your account and ask you to beg for reactivation).  Spectre is trying to get relected by getting the steelers and eagles fans support.  <br> </div>Oh please cry me a river!  I'm sure had it been the Colts, Jets or Dolphins you wouldn't have a problem would you?<br><br>If you're a true football fan you'd want the league to be put on notice to clean up it's act.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:47:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><b>X Man</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Eagles LoveR <A HREF="/useremail/u/525472"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>They went undefeated last season cause that was their best team ever... even without the Superbowl that team was easily the best team they ever fielded... but without the spygate they couldn't win a superbowl with their best team :( how shitty is that<br> </div>No where near as "shitty" as <b> NEVER WINNING A SUPERBOWL</b>, like the <b>Eagles</b>.  :p<br><br>Mike]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:25:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525472"><b>Eagles LoveR</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  X Man <A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  footballdude <A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Though there is no evidence of a tape, Walsh did admit that he watched the Rams' walkthrough, then went to the coaching staff and described what he saw, with an emphasis on how the Rams were using their tight ends.</div> Source your shit out, and get it straight. Also, get it in context.<div class="bquote"><small>said by ESPN  :</small><br><br>While there was no tape of the walk-through, Walsh provided some inside information that might have been beneficial to the Patriots. Levy [NFL Attorney] said <b>he knows of no league rule Walsh violated</b>, and Goodell is not expected to take any further action.&raquo;<A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3394017" >sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3394017</A> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by  footballdude <A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>The Patriots are lying, cheating scum and nearly everyone that's a football fan outside of Boston is going to hate them for a long time.<br> </div>So what. Everybody that's a football fan outside of New England that's not a Pat's fan <b>hated them <i>already</i></b>. We, <b>don't care!</b><br><br>My question to the whiners and criers is what was/is the <b>excuse</b> for <b>everyone losing </b> to the Pat's in the <i>entire</i> regular season, last year? <b>Hmmm?</b> Because <strike>Spygate</strike>, <i><b>Scapegoat&#153;</i></b> wasn't a valid one.<br><br>Whatever,<br>Mike<br> </div>They went undefeated last season cause that was their best team ever... even without the Superbowl that team was easily the best team they ever fielded... but without the spygate they couldn't win a superbowl with their best team :( how shitty is that<br><small>--<br>"I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:09:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><b>X Man</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  footballdude <A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>And here I thought I was making points to an objective observer...</div>Really?<div class="bquote"><small>said by  footballdude <A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><b>The Patriots are lying, cheating scum</b> and nearly everyone that's a football fan outside of Boston is going to hate them for a long time.<br> </div>Real "objective". :uhh:<br><br>Regards,<br>Mike]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:00:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><b>footballdude</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  X Man <A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Everybody that's a football fan outside of New England that's not a Pat's fan <b>hated them <i>already</i></b>. We, <b>don't care!</b> </div>And here I thought I was making points to an objective observer, not a rabid 'my team or bust' excuse maker.<br><br>The Pats are dirty.  Ranting in a forum won't make it better.<br><small>--<br>It's a trick.  Get an axe. - Ash</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:42:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><b>X Man</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Silvanos <A HREF="/useremail/u/700470"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Yeah you don't care, lol.<br> </div> :D OK, so I guess I <i>do</i>.<br><br>Regards]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:54:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/700470"><b>Silvanos</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  X Man <A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>[So what. Everybody that's a football fan outside of New England that's not a Pat's fan <b>hated them <i>already</i></b>. We, <b>don't care!</b><br><br>My question to the whiners and criers is what was/is the <b>excuse</b> for <b>everyone losing </b> to the Pat's in the <i>entire</i> regular season, last year? <b>Hmmm?</b> Because <strike>Spygate</strike>, <i><b>Scapegoat&#153;</i></b> wasn't a valid one.<br><br>Whatever,<br>Mike<br> </div>Yeah you don't care, lol.<br><small>--<br>Why do people pay to go up tall buildings and then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground?</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:05:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><b>X Man</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  footballdude <A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Though there is no evidence of a tape, Walsh did admit that he watched the Rams' walkthrough, then went to the coaching staff and described what he saw, with an emphasis on how the Rams were using their tight ends.</div> Source your shit out, and get it straight. Also, get it in context.<div class="bquote"><small>said by ESPN :</small><br><br>While there was no tape of the walk-through, Walsh provided some inside information that might have been beneficial to the Patriots. Levy [NFL Attorney] said <b>he knows of no league rule Walsh violated</b>, and Goodell is not expected to take any further action.&raquo;<A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3394017" >sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3394017</A> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by  footballdude <A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The Patriots are lying, cheating scum and nearly everyone that's a football fan outside of Boston is going to hate them for a long time.<br> </div>So what. Everybody that's a football fan outside of New England that's not a Pat's fan <b>hated them <i>already</i></b>. We, <b>don't care!</b><br><br>My question to the whiners and criers is what was/is the <b>excuse</b> for <b>everyone losing </b> to the Pat's in the <i>entire</i> regular season, last year? <b>Hmmm?</b> Because <strike>Spygate</strike>, <i><b>Scapegoat&#153;</i></b> wasn't a valid one.<br><br>Whatever,<br>Mike]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1549599"><b>CultofSkaro</b></A> : Anybody notice how this topic magically distracted the public from surgng fuel costs and food shoratges?  Yeah that is the ONLY reason a senator is involved.  This is nothing more then a witch hunt.  I'd post this on espn but their nazi forum policies get me banned at least once a week.(Typical day somebody starts a race or political war and if you don't agree with them they report you.  Espn being owned by abc/disney, no longer knows how to investigate and they simply violate your account and ask you to beg for reactivation).  Spectre is trying to get relected by getting the steelers and eagles fans support.  <br><small>--<br>Learning to fly is not so hard.  The hard part is learning to hurl yourself towards the ground at break neck speeds and missing.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:33:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/672830"><b>footballdude</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  X Man <A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>We now know that Walsh has nothing new to add. No tape of the 2002 Rams "walk through". </div>Though there is no evidence of a tape, Walsh did admit that he watched the Rams' walkthrough, then went to the coaching staff and described what he saw, with an emphasis on how the Rams were using their tight ends.<br><br>The Patriots are lying, cheating scum and nearly everyone that's a football fan outside of Boston is going to hate them for a long time.<br><small>--<br>It's a trick.  Get an axe. - Ash</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:13:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/693202"><b>Owlbet</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  X Man <A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>This whole story was so overblown from the word go that it's sad. Bill Belichick was found to have violated NFL rules on videotaping opposing teams signals. He was fined $500,000 for chrissake and the Pats were fined $250,000 and a first round draft pick.<br></div>...and they lost the Super Bowl in a karma of the sporting kind.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:35:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525472"><b>Eagles LoveR</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  fatness <A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I don't think Goodell mentioned this stuff in his press conference.<br>  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Specter met with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh for three hours yesterday in his Hart Senate Office Building office. He said that Walsh told him that a former offensive player for the Patriots told Walsh a few days before a Sept. 3, 2000 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Specter had said it was a Sept. 11, 2000 game) that the offensive player was called into a meeting with head coach Bill Belichick, then offensive coordinator Charlie Weis and Belichick confidant Ernie Adams. During the meeting it was explained to the player how the signal tapes would be used.<br><br>According to Specter's recount of what Walsh detailed to him, the offensive player, who was on the sidelines for the game, would memorize the signals then watch for the Tampa Bay defensive calls during the game. He would then pass the call along to Weis, who would give instructions to the quarterback on the field.<br><br>Specter's statement said that the offensive player told Walsh that it helped the Patriots anticipate 75 percent of the defensive plays being called. <hr></blockquote><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/05/specter_calls_f.html" >www.boston.com/sports/football/p&middot;&middot;&middot;s_f.html</A><br> </div>no wonder why the patriots were always nastier in the 2nd half :(<br><small>--<br>"I done wrassled with an alligator, I done tussled with a whale, only Last week I murdered a rock, Injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick!!"-Ali</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:30:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><b>fatness</b></A> : I don't think Goodell mentioned this stuff in his press conference.<br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Specter met with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh for three hours yesterday in his Hart Senate Office Building office. He said that Walsh told him that a former offensive player for the Patriots told Walsh a few days before a Sept. 3, 2000 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Specter had said it was a Sept. 11, 2000 game) that the offensive player was called into a meeting with head coach Bill Belichick, then offensive coordinator Charlie Weis and Belichick confidant Ernie Adams. During the meeting it was explained to the player how the signal tapes would be used.<br><br>According to Specter's recount of what Walsh detailed to him, the offensive player, who was on the sidelines for the game, would memorize the signals then watch for the Tampa Bay defensive calls during the game. He would then pass the call along to Weis, who would give instructions to the quarterback on the field.<br><br>Specter's statement said that the offensive player told Walsh that it helped the Patriots anticipate 75 percent of the defensive plays being called. <hr></blockquote>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/05/specter_calls_f.html" >www.boston.com/sports/football/p&middot;&middot;&middot;s_f.html</A><br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livescience.com/animals/071218-monkey-call.html">Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:40:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/700470"><b>Silvanos</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  C_ <A HREF="/useremail/u/348368"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>anti-trust exemption, enough said<br> </div>^ ;)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:21:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/348368"><b>C_</b></A> : anti-trust exemption, enough said]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:09:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><b>fatness</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  waldoooo <A HREF="/useremail/u/540015"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Shouldn't this be a NFL only problem?</div>Is the NFL going to release a transcript of the whole 3 and 1/4 hour meeting between Walsh and Goodell? It seems to me that if the NFL wants this to "go away", they'd do that.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livescience.com/animals/071218-monkey-call.html">Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:56:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/170109"><b>CylonRed</b></A> : Be prepared to be villified - I posted the same thing when Arlen make a mockery of everything...<br><br>So far I have yet to see inthis forum this nuggest:  &raquo;<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080514/sp_nm/nfl_patriots_apology_dc_1;_ylt=AlMibSKPKFlT5Jr7i2bUaVgE1vAI" >news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080514/sp_&middot;&middot;&middot;aVgE1vAI</A><br><br>So many of the people here villify a FALSE story but won't own up when it is known to be false. One of the reasons I stopped coming here to this forum...  The hypocracy is thick.<br><small>--<br>Brian<br><br>Free health care is 100% a misnomer - it is not free and never will be free.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:10:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1258789"><b>X Man</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  fatness <A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The NFL tried to sweep the problem under the rug, and tried to keep Matt Walsh from coming forward with anything he knows about cheating by videotaping (or other means). It's a sport watched by millions, it's supposed to be an athletic contest where the outcome is determined on the field. If a team can cheat, get discovered, and have most of what they did covered up by the league, it raises the issue of whether it's more like professional wrestling than like a fair athletic contest. That would affect the NFL's broadcast license. That's why a Senator is involved.<br> </div>Oh please, Walsh is a tool, literally and figuratively. <br><br>We now know that Walsh has nothing new to add. No tape of the 2002 Rams "walk through". Perhaps, rather than a cover up, the League realized that Walsh was a tool and had nothing new and that's why Goodell wasn't exited to meet with him. Walsh, was also the one delaying things as I understand it. Trying to get some guarantee that he wasn't going to get sued for defamation.<br><br>This whole story was so overblown from the word go that it's sad. Bill Belichick was found to have violated NFL rules on videotaping opposing teams signals. He was fined $500,000 for chrissake and the Pats were fined $250,000 and a first round draft pick.<br><br><b><center>The End!</b></center><br><br>Regards  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:35:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1549599"><b>CultofSkaro</b></A> : that and the senator just had a raging clue.<br><br>Well our partisan gov't is too busy not working together to accomplish anything so they have to harrass sporting industries instead. :p<br><small>--<br>Learning to fly is not so hard.  The hard part is learning to hurl yourself towards the ground at break neck speeds and missing.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:19:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><b>fatness</b></A> : The NFL tried to sweep the problem under the rug, and tried to keep Matt Walsh from coming forward with anything he knows about cheating by videotaping (or other means). It's a sport watched by millions, it's supposed to be an athletic contest where the outcome is determined on the field. If a team can cheat, get discovered, and have most of what they did covered up by the league, it raises the issue of whether it's more like professional wrestling than like a fair athletic contest. That would affect the NFL's broadcast license. That's why a Senator is involved.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livescience.com/animals/071218-monkey-call.html">Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 08:27:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/540015"><b>waldoooo</b></A> : Why is there a senator involved with the "spygate" investigation????  Shouldn't this be a NFL only problem?  I haven't followed the stories on this since it happened but just heard on ESPN that the main witness is meeting with the NFL commissioner today then flying to meet with a senator on the matter.<br><br>I understand the senate getting involved in the steroid controversy since the drugs are illegal and can cause great harm to our athletes as well as anyone else who follows in their footsteps using them.  But anyone other than the NFL itself getting involved in a cheating controversy is out of line and a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:27:09 EDT</pubDate>
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