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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
reply to patcat88
Re: Should we care?

Why hasn't Intel released WiMax laptops? maybe because Intel doesnt make Laptops? but you can get WiMax laptops from other Mfg's right now... Dell and IBM for one

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to Gog123
said by Gog123 See Profile :

Clearwire is the shining star in the world of Telecommunications.

Back when everyone was saying Google would bid on the 700mhz spectrum, they failed to talk about the merits of 2.5Ghz which provided more bandwidth and higher speeds.

With a combination of the Montevina Intel chips due out soon, Wimax will now be provided for national usage.

For years the MMDS spectrum laid unused and unable to be funded especially in my MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) of New York City. Technology back in the old days was very primative and also not that great which required alot of line of sight equipment.

With the new notebooks and Intel Wimax, that all changes now. A true national network for mobile computing which is everywhere and anywhere will be on the horizon. Just like the expansion of the cellular networks which took man years to build out, now the national wimax network will hit the show on the road

.............................

For me this means computing everywhere and anywhere over 2.5mhz wireless at 2-4Mbps speeds which is faster than competing networks such as the Cellphone carriers like Verizon. Verizon gets the 700mhz spectrum while Clearwire has the better 2.5Mhz spectrum. And to boot this network is native Wimax not some CDMA or Qualcomm owned technology (which is actually Broadcom as Qualcomm was a marketting based company while Broadcom did the actual engineering work which actually sued Qualcomm and won in court)

So this is a win win for all consumers. My hope and guess is that Wimax over this network would be very price competitive because of competition in this space as well as the standardization on the Intel chipset which is essentially the fully dominant platform on mobile computing these days leading to built in Wimax on all the notebook computers with Intel right there and fully ready for usage just like with Wifi which is also built in.

For me Wimax is the best cause of the backing of the investment partners and the higher speed tiers offered combined with the fact that I do not have to plug in a phone or buy a proprietary mobile card in as all new Intel Mobile notebooks will have Wimax as standard.

Wimax latency CAN be 10MS or under (Note CAN, it all depends on the carrier since a poor implementation could see really high ping times).

...............................

I am looking forward to the Lenovo T61 replacement with Montevina and Wimax which is on the top of my radar list right now when it comes out.
Keep drinking your WiMAX koolaid. If WiMAX is ment to be something real mainstream network, why hasn't your beloved Intel released WiMAX laptops yet? The sitting user base is obvious, and if Intel hasn't taken advantage of it, someone needs to go back to school and get a MBA.

Next issue, the reason MMDS failed was the FCC. Speculators bought it all up and NEVER offered service and just sat on the spectrum. The FCC never put buildout requirements or a requirement to have service on the spectrum, and when the speculators sat on it the FCC quietly looked away.

Note the requirements of offering service only exist for AWS and WCS bands. Not BRS (what MMDS's frequencies are now called).
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EBS is a damn joke. I've never heard of any of these licensees using it (this is a search for Queens County NY (NYC)). And most of them cashed out big by leasing it. Did I mention there is no requirement to actually use the band?

»wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear···rintable
»wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear···rintable
»wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear···rintable
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Regarding MMDS/BRS. Sprint is the only license holder for the NYC market.
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Thats 24 mhz of spectrum, with no usage requirement. FCC is a joke. In the PCS C block auction, same area (BTA321), for 15 mhz of bandwidth, was sold for $1.3 billion. And the FCC just gave it away.

WiMAX is not an open standard. It runs/proposed to run on 30 different bands around the world. You think 1 manufacturer will make a part that talk on all of them? We can't even get a world 3G HSDPA phone, what makes you think we will get a multi country/multi provider WiMAX device? What WiMAX provider will want to subsidize world WiMAX cards that can be used on its competitors? Different bands for different carriers is the new Subsidy Locking.

Also 2.5ghz will NOT enable rural coverage. Its more shitty than PCS. If you don't like Sprint or TMobile's coverage today, you sure won't like WiMAX, since its guarenteed to be less. Building penetration will suck too. Walk through 5 doors inside an apt building and you'll get zero bars, yet stand on the street and get full bars. *pulls out my Verizon and sees 3 bars*

Also think of your logic.

quote:
For years the MMDS spectrum laid unused and unable to be funded especially in my MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) of New York City. Technology back in the old days was very primative and also not that great which required alot of line of sight equipment.
So how is WiMAX going to not need line of sight when its the same spectrum with the same radiation limits? Keep shilling brother.

EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

reply to Gog123
WiMax's success I think depends on how it does in a critical period from their initial deployments until VZW starts deploying LTE. If Clearwire can't catch on in America by then, then there's a chance they could get bulldozed by Big Telco, or at best become just another competing standard rather than the dominant one. If they can assure themselves the dominant position, though, LTE-networks will be marginalized and Big Telco will be found scrambling for their own WiMax at a huge time disadvantage... it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Gog123

join:2008-03-25


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reply to Yo me again
Clearwire is the shining star in the world of Telecommunications.

Back when everyone was saying Google would bid on the 700mhz spectrum, they failed to talk about the merits of 2.5Ghz which provided more bandwidth and higher speeds.

With a combination of the Montevina Intel chips due out soon, Wimax will now be provided for national usage.

For years the MMDS spectrum laid unused and unable to be funded especially in my MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) of New York City. Technology back in the old days was very primative and also not that great which required alot of line of sight equipment.

With the new notebooks and Intel Wimax, that all changes now. A true national network for mobile computing which is everywhere and anywhere will be on the horizon. Just like the expansion of the cellular networks which took man years to build out, now the national wimax network will hit the show on the road.

For me: I get my Time Warner Cable broadband for wired along with 802.11N for inhome usage for my laptop. Then when I go outside range, I move on the Wimax enabled network. This product is a win win. It also can be used as a VoIP phone and use any carrier over the network I choose for voice communications. I am sure even wimax enabled headsets will come out as well.

I think this is perfect platform for Android and Powered by Google as well as anything else and will drive down cost efficiency and provide a robust network for usage anywhere and everywhere. All the players involved are top notch, from Time Warner to Google to Intel. The wildcard which actually owns 51% is Sprint, however Sprint has had its huge share of problems with its network. It is very possible for the other investors to raise their stake and/or for Sprint to leave the scene.

But for the customers this network promises to provide a FAT mobile nationwide internet pipeline with 2-4Mbps and will likely evolve to higher speeds. 2-4Mbps for mobile is like having a DSL connection while you are on the go.

All the carriers involved have enough dough to fund this thing to its entirety. There could be some changes in investment by the firms and changes in power or control.

For me this means computing everywhere and anywhere over 2.5mhz wireless at 2-4Mbps speeds which is faster than competing networks such as the Cellphone carriers like Verizon. Verizon gets the 700mhz spectrum while Clearwire has the better 2.5Mhz spectrum. And to boot this network is native Wimax not some CDMA or Qualcomm owned technology (which is actually Broadcom as Qualcomm was a marketting based company while Broadcom did the actual engineering work which actually sued Qualcomm and won in court)

So this is a win win for all consumers. My hope and guess is that Wimax over this network would be very price competitive because of competition in this space as well as the standardization on the Intel chipset which is essentially the fully dominant platform on mobile computing these days leading to built in Wimax on all the notebook computers with Intel right there and fully ready for usage just like with Wifi which is also built in.

For me Wimax is the best cause of the backing of the investment partners and the higher speed tiers offered combined with the fact that I do not have to plug in a phone or buy a proprietary mobile card in as all new Intel Mobile notebooks will have Wimax as standard.

Wimax latency CAN be 10MS or under (Note CAN, it all depends on the carrier since a poor implementation could see really high ping times).

Speed as for now on Wimax is slower than Cablemodem at 2-4Mbps downstream.

Wimax should be more competitive and better than competing cell carrier networks in terms of speed and latency and even pricing if all goes well.

Wimax has potential to be the defacto standard for mobile wireless.

It is all good news for the consumer and forces an openhand in the mobile wireless networks of the future.

I am looking forward to the Lenovo T61 replacement with Montevina and Wimax which is on the top of my radar list right now when it comes out.
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