Business DSL SMTP question in Verizon Online DSL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20481978 en Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:05:15 EDT Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:05:15 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511142 buckingham : I just use the default ports in my email client (Thunderbird) to access all my accounts and send email for them via my hosting service's SMTP setup for my domains. The only accounts I use the VZ SMTP server for are the VZ email addresses...which I use for nothing important. My own domain's SMTP server also requires authentication...as it should be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511142 Tue, 20 May 2008 10:44:48 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510983 NyQuil Kid : Is your DSL line a business or residential line? I use my own SMTP server (I am not hosting it however) and use port 26.

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510983 Tue, 20 May 2008 10:12:10 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510537 buckingham :
said by sozekizer See Profile :

3. the issue of spam and relaying exists in the fact that verizon does not allow any other outgoing server to be used when connected to verizon services (fios, dsl, dialup).
This is not true. I use my domain hosting service SMTP services instead of VZ's on my DSL line and have for years.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510537 Tue, 20 May 2008 08:02:14 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510283 NormanS :
said by sozekizer See Profile :

3. the issue of spam and relaying exists in the fact that verizon does not allow any other outgoing server to be used when connected to verizon services (fios, dsl, dialup).
How do they prevent the use of a non-Verizon SMTP message submission server without blocking port 25 outbound?
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1. verizon's outgoing email server requires authentication. this was not always the case. it started about 4-5 years ago.
2. verizon's outgoing servers will accept mail transmission regardless of return address. i remember this being the case a few years ago but after the last big suit verizon was part of (the one caused by the zero tolerance spam policy) this was removed as part of the settlement.
3. the issue of spam and relaying exists in the fact that verizon does not allow any other outgoing server to be used when connected to verizon services (fios, dsl, dialup). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503941 Sun, 18 May 2008 22:26:29 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489640 PetePuma :
said by tschmidt See Profile :

Will Verizon's outgoing SMTP mail server accept mail regardless of return address as long as sender is able to authenticate to the server?
This works fine. I'd wager a guess that outgoing.verizon.com does not care if it's a residential or commercial customer connecting; I can send mail as any user @ any domain via that server as long as I authenticate with my VZ credentials.

What I think the OP was referring to is that their vendor software does not provide any means for providing the auth info as part of the configuration.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489640 Thu, 15 May 2008 20:25:45 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489519 tschmidt :
said by pamray62 See Profile :

it does require authentication. You would need the username and password the the cx's Verizon account.
Could you please clarify. Just about all SMTP servers use authentication as an anti spam measure now a days.

I think what OP is alluding to is a while ago Verizon instituted a policy that required return address be the user's Verizon email account. Is that policy still in effect?

Will Verizon's outgoing SMTP mail server accept mail regardless of return address as long as sender is able to authenticate to the server?

/tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489519 Thu, 15 May 2008 20:00:00 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489450 NyQuil Kid : Thanks for the verification - I had a feeling it operates that way, but wanted to be sure.

Thanks!

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489450 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:44:28 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489344 pamray62 : I am a Verizon Business DSL agent. You will need the smtp server outgoing.verizon.net, and yes it does require authentication. You would need the username and password the the cx's Verizon account. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20489344 Thu, 15 May 2008 19:23:19 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20486062 NyQuil Kid : Yep I checked the smart host setting for Exchange - there wasn't anything there. They are using Verizon DSL for their internet connection so I figured I would use outgoing.verizon.net but when I do, the email gets queued but never sent.

As a test, I entered my own SMTP server and authentication info - that worked. So I have to conclude that if I were to use outgoing.verizon.net I also need to use authentication.

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20486062 Thu, 15 May 2008 09:19:26 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485678 PetePuma : Uh, Exchange exposes SMTP, can't the vendor software send mail through the Exchange server via SMTP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485678 Thu, 15 May 2008 07:16:30 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484443 NyQuil Kid : Yeah that would be my preference, but the client uses Exchange and the vendor software doesn't support Exchange ;-(

[8F] The NyQuil Kid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484443 Wed, 14 May 2008 22:36:07 EDT Re: Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484376 tschmidt : I don't know. It has been a long time since I used the Verizon SMTP server.

Wouldn't your customer want to use their own SMTP server so mail originates from their business domain? Verizon does not block outgoing SMTP (Port 25) so they can use their own SMTP server. I'm assuming your customer uses a hosting service for Web and email.

/tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20484376 Wed, 14 May 2008 22:25:47 EDT Business DSL SMTP question http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20481978 NyQuil Kid : Hi there:

I have a client with a static IP address from Verizon Business DSL - in order to use the SMTP outgoing.verizon.net, does it still require authentication via an email address? The client is installed a diesel engine inventory tracking program that permits emailing invoices, orders, etc....

Thanks!

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