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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/677055" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=677055');">skrupowies</a>:</small><br><br>That's great.  You work for the company and support their major competitors for wireless, video and internet.  That's certainly one way to support your company and, more importantly, your job!</div>Can you blame him?  At&t needs to offer a better solution to win customers.<br>Expecting him to be loyal to at&t because they contract jobs to him is like expecting at&t to be loyal to him when he needs work.   <br><small>--<br>"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:26:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1544837" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1544837');">weaseled386</a>:</small><br><br>Do you think that just because that's the limit they have it at now that it's the limit of the physical equipment?  Hopefully not. </div>The limits of the VDSL deployment they are doing at typical loop lengths is somewhere around 25Mbps... However they won't let you "Just" order U-Verse Internet.  Most of the 25mbps speed is reserved for the video streams and their VOIP.  The most they will give you on Internet will be about 10/1.  Unless they go ahead and change U-Verse to FTTH or install many more Remote terminals and shorten the loop length.  They have gotten U-Verse up to about 100mbps but only on very short distances.<br><br>The HOPE that many of us have is that U-verse will be rolled out and over time at&t will go back and upgrade to full FTTH and then make more services and speeds available.<br><br>... but it could be awhile.<br><small>--<br>"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:22:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[weaseled386 posted : As a contractor who lives hand-to-mouth you have to go where the deals are.  For me the deals are AT&T for wireless, and Brighthouse for internet & cable.  Might that change once U-Verse is fully deployed here?  Maybe.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:45:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[skrupowies posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1544837" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1544837');">weaseled386</a>:</small><br><br>I install AT&T equipment for a living, and I don't even have their service :)  They haven't flipped the switch on U-Verse here yet, but even when the do I don't plan on jumping from Brighthouse/RR.<br> </div> <br>That's great.  You work for the company and support their major competitors for wireless, video and internet.  That's certainly one way to support your company and, more importantly, your job!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:11:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[weaseled386 posted : I install AT&T equipment for a living, and I don't even have their service :)  They haven't flipped the switch on U-Verse here yet, but even when the do I don't plan on jumping from Brighthouse/RR.  As you said, 10/1.5 vs. 15/2... not much of a choice is there?!<br><br>The bonding of the two pairs for 25MB isn't a myth tho.  The only question is how fast RR is going to go to match/beat it!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:55:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ztmike posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1544837" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1544837');">weaseled386</a>:</small><br><br>Do you think that just because that's the limit they have it at now that it's the limit of the physical equipment?  Hopefully not.<br> </div>Not what I meant, but to have those kind of speeds..even Comcast beats that. <br><small>--<br>www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYueIC1pjM</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:49:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[weaseled386 posted : Do you think that just because that's the limit they have it at now that it's the limit of the physical equipment?  Hopefully not.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:36:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ztmike posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/765230" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=765230');">Uncle Paul</a>:</small><br><br>Isn't that about the speed of U-Verse?<br> </div>Not even close..U-Verse tops out at 10/1.5 ..kinda sad..isn't it?<br><small>--<br>www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYueIC1pjM</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:13:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Uncle Paul posted : Isn't that about the speed of U-Verse?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:06:31 EDT</pubDate>
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