Re: Forget Copper in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20483583 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:53:36 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:53:36 EDT Re: Forget Copper http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485170 KrK :
said by skrupowies See Profile :

That's great. You work for the company and support their major competitors for wireless, video and internet. That's certainly one way to support your company and, more importantly, your job!
Can you blame him? At&t needs to offer a better solution to win customers.
Expecting him to be loyal to at&t because they contract jobs to him is like expecting at&t to be loyal to him when he needs work.
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485170 Thu, 15 May 2008 01:26:56 EDT Re: Forget Copper http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485158 KrK :
said by weaseled386 See Profile :

Do you think that just because that's the limit they have it at now that it's the limit of the physical equipment? Hopefully not.
The limits of the VDSL deployment they are doing at typical loop lengths is somewhere around 25Mbps... However they won't let you "Just" order U-Verse Internet. Most of the 25mbps speed is reserved for the video streams and their VOIP. The most they will give you on Internet will be about 10/1. Unless they go ahead and change U-Verse to FTTH or install many more Remote terminals and shorten the loop length. They have gotten U-Verse up to about 100mbps but only on very short distances.

The HOPE that many of us have is that U-verse will be rolled out and over time at&t will go back and upgrade to full FTTH and then make more services and speeds available.

... but it could be awhile.
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20485158 Thu, 15 May 2008 01:22:24 EDT Re: Forget Copper http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483769 weaseled386 : As a contractor who lives hand-to-mouth you have to go where the deals are. For me the deals are AT&T for wireless, and Brighthouse for internet & cable. Might that change once U-Verse is fully deployed here? Maybe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483769 Wed, 14 May 2008 20:45:51 EDT Re: Forget Copper http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483583 skrupowies :
said by weaseled386 See Profile :

I install AT&T equipment for a living, and I don't even have their service :) They haven't flipped the switch on U-Verse here yet, but even when the do I don't plan on jumping from Brighthouse/RR.

That's great. You work for the company and support their major competitors for wireless, video and internet. That's certainly one way to support your company and, more importantly, your job!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483583 Wed, 14 May 2008 20:11:31 EDT Re: Forget Copper http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483508 weaseled386 : I install AT&T equipment for a living, and I don't even have their service :) They haven't flipped the switch on U-Verse here yet, but even when the do I don't plan on jumping from Brighthouse/RR. As you said, 10/1.5 vs. 15/2... not much of a choice is there?!

The bonding of the two pairs for 25MB isn't a myth tho. The only question is how fast RR is going to go to match/beat it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483508 Wed, 14 May 2008 19:55:46 EDT Re: Forget Copper http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20483159 ztmike :
said by weaseled386 See Profile :

Do you think that just because that's the limit they have it at now that it's the limit of the physical equipment? Hopefully not.
Not what I meant, but to have those kind of speeds..even Comcast beats that.
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said by Neyland See Profile :

Isn't that about the speed of U-Verse?
Not even close..U-Verse tops out at 10/1.5 ..kinda sad..isn't it?
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