said by Topher92 :

GNet BB0050 Modem (confirmed it's in bridge mode)
Asus WL500gP upgraded to tomato mp2-b1
cleared NVRAM
selected PPPoE and single link mlppp

What am I missing? Thanks,

said by Radar73 :

This is what I was doing to test, thus the speed test results as previously posted.

said by DSL_Ricer :

I came out with an overhead of 40 bytes on a non mlppp connection.
- 8 bytes PPP+PPPoE
- 14 bytes Ethernet
- 10 Multi-Protocol over ATM
- 8 byte AAL5 CPCS-PDU

said by An Onymous :

If you want to experiment, the GUI allow you to manually enter the MTU value.

said by Radar73 :

I'm not doubting anyone, just curious when I was doing some testing. Who better to ask than these guys? I did find this »www.mynetwatchman.com/kb/ADSL/pppoemtu.htm which has some interesting info but they came up with yet another value that is supposedly optimal for PPPoE (non-MLPPP). I guess I'll just remain puzzled and google some more :).

said by An Onymous :

LOL... Doubting the guy that implement the firmware... ;)

said by Guspaz :

For the MTU, 1448 without MLPPP, with MLPPP, 1440+2n where n is the number of lines being bonded.

said by DSL_Ricer :

Oh and I forgot to state the obvious.
MTU is Maximum Transmit unit. You'll note higher upload with an MTU of 1442.

The downlink is controlled by the MRU in non-mlppp and the MRRU in MLPPP.

(that said, in theory, it should be 0.3% higher upload, not 7%)

said by Arghoslent :

I'm a noob here . I have a WRT54GL v1.1 but i can't make head's or tails of what to do with these 2 files. Do iu have to do anything before i use these files

said by Radar73 :



MTU 1442:


Can anyone shed some light on how to determine best MTU?

said by Radar73 :

A few questions:
What is MR(R)U?
Why is MTU for PPPoE with MLPPP off set to 1448 when 1492 is the optimal?

said by Guspaz :

1.19-mp is the latest stable build. 1.19mp2beta1 is the latest unstable build, although 1.19mp2beta2 is currently undergoing testing.

For many people 1.19mp2beta1 is more stable than 1.19mp1. It fixes some disconnect issues.

said by stevieb0413 :

First off, thanks to Guspaz for his MLPPP version of Tomato to bypass the Bell throttling -- you rock!

said by TilhasBB :

Thanks. Do you have any Scripts?
I currently have this. under Wan Up in Scripts in Administration.

ip addr add 192.168.1.1/24 dev vlan1 brd +
/usr/sbin/iptables -I POSTROUTING -t nat -o vlan1 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE

said by TilhasBB :

Has anyone been able to access both modems when running MultiLink PPP ?
If so what is your setup

said by ddurdle :

Where is this "v2" everyone is talking about? I don't see the link.

said by alexover :

BTW, anyone know if the tomato can just restrict the clients to access certain sites only. Like just blocking youtube.com etc. Any ideas?

said by frustrated1 :

L2TP is still broken. I can't use Citrix when using this modded firmware. Vanilla tomato is just fine.

said by unknown11 :

Is this a reply to my question?

said by unknown11 :

If so I stated that I have the previous version installed so its not vanilla. 1.19mp1

said by DSL_Ricer :

a) If you will have access to the GUI after the upgrade, [flash] it and then:
- Go to Basic->Network
- Change "MultiLink PPP" back to the desired value
- Click save

said by DSL_Ricer :

When upgrading from 1.19 vanila to 1.19-mp2beta1, after installing the firmware, you'll need to do the following:
In Basic->Networking, change the MLPPP connection type and set the MTU and MRU to auto, then click Save.

Depending on your previous settings, you will not have a working internet connection until you do that, so don't do it remotely.

said by venom999 :

However, I've also checked when in normal tomato 1.19 vlan1 mtu and ppp0 mtu are both at 1492. It is set by tomato. Why is there then a difference I wonder?

said by Guspaz :

Unless I'm mistaken, the vlan1 MTU (which represents the WAN port) should always be 1500. It's an ethernet device. Changing the MTU on it might cause issues.

Tomato/MLPPP actually creates a bridge (br1) and uses that rather than vlan1. br1's MTU should also be 1500.

said by venom999 :

I've been following the whole thread since the beginning.

I installed mp2-beta1. QOS turned off. Single link.

Torrents max out my connection just fine.

When I run speedtests(with torrents off), I never get full speed. Anywhere from 800 kbps to 2500 kbps. Without mlppp I get what I should be getting for my 4meg profile ~3430 kbps.

Tried MTU MRU @ 1442 and automatic, doesn't make a difference.

Browsing speed isn't as snappy as it should be.

Oh yeah, upload is just fine, no problems.

Why do some others get good results with no problems?

said by DSL_Ricer :

While there were known issues with mp1, mp2beta1 doesn't have any such known issues.

When the router has exhibited this problem, could you please save the output of:
# nvram show
# ifconfig
# ps
Then PM them to me?

said by Quake110 :

My line isn't that great great right now, but with the original tomato firmware, when it disconnected, it automatically tries to reconnect.

said by TOPDAWG :

I've yet to have it disconnect with the beta 2.

said by daboom :

Hey Dslricer, Guzpaz

Here's something I am getting with regular pppoe connect very weird don't you think? And yet I am still connected.

WAN
MAC Address 00:1E:E5:7A:53:B5
Connection Type PPPoE
IP Address 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0
Gateway 0.0.0.0
DNS 206.248.x.x, 206.248.x.x
MTU 1448

Status Disconnected
Connection Uptime -


Jun 5 01:53:08 Crazed user.info kernel: br1: topology change detected, propagating
Jun 5 01:53:09 Crazed local2.info pppd[919]: PPP session is 3539
Jun 5 01:53:09 Crazed local2.info pppd[919]: Using interface ppp0
Jun 5 01:53:09 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: Connect: ppp0 br1
Jun 5 01:53:10 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: PAP authentication succeeded
Jun 5 01:53:10 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: peer from calling number 00:90:1A:A0:99:31 authorized
Jun 5 01:53:10 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: local IP address 206.248.x.x
Jun 5 01:53:10 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: remote IP address 206.248.154.101
Jun 5 01:53:10 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: primary DNS address 206.248.x.x
Jun 5 01:53:10 Crazed local2.notice pppd[919]: secondary DNS address 206.248.x.x

I will reboot later tonight and see if it's just a small glitch I hope so :P what do you guys think it is? btw new version still the same dealio for me ie http,streaming downloads are slooooooooooooow.

said by PolyBomber :

I am a Teksavvy user who has recently been throttled by Bell and I currently am using DD-WRT V23sp2 for my Linksys WRT54g V3.1 router. DD-WRT has a dhcpd option that lets you assign IP addresses based on the MAC address of the connected computer. I was just wondering if Tomato has a similar option?

said by Guspaz :

Do you have QoS enabled? You would have set your QoS limit to something like 90% of the speed of one line (~580). Adding the second line would double your upstream, but QoS would still limit your total upstream to 580.

said by recneps :

I second the request for a new post with the next release (and just put a link to this one for reference)
This is getting much too long :p

said by daboom :

I am pretty sure I posted a good one the other day. The status info page for my link shows no info. Only when I am on MLPPP mode the info shows up ie Connect time and ip's etc. rebooting router did nothing. This is for regular pppoe.

said by TOPDAWG :

Hm where can I get V2?

said by whatrar :

What version of win rar do you need to open this? I've tried a couple versions including the latest and it says the file is not a rar file or damaged. I've redownloaded it a few times and still the same message.

said by darcmage :

I noticed the same behaviour in my router as well but that was with v1 of the firmware. V2 has been running smoothly since its release.

said by gord27 :

that's all well and good but mine shows uptime counting away happily despite the internet not actually working. i'm not sure how much i trust that reading.

said by JayMan :

gord, i'm telling you I havn't been disconnected. I really don't care what your router is saying.

said by JayMan :

Mine is correct. I havn't been disco'd yet.

said by JayMan :

Connection Uptime 5 days, 06:30:26

said by xdrag :

i wish DD-WRT supported this. Also, can someone compile a post similar to a "guide" with all the different method that's a sticked first post. that would be great.

said by emoci :

Yeah, maybe should be added to the first post (kinda hard to find) but it's here »Re: Tomato/MLPPP released (evade throttle or bond two DSL lines)

said by gord27 :

beta 2?

said by thm655321 :

Mine on single link used to crap out occassionally requiring a disconnect/connect but now on beta 2 it's been rock solid.

A belated thank you very much to all those who's efforts created this.

said by andrejus :

Hi,

Yes, you are absolutely right...i actually have misconfigured my QoS. I have updated the QoS configuration, and it works like a charm!
I must say that the general possibilities of Tomato FW are endless comparing with HyperWRT.
although i'd like to ask a question if QoS can be configured so the certain protocols/MAC addresses will be sent before anything else. i can see how i can limit bandwidth for certain protocols, but how i can prioritize them. in a sense, i'd like my VoIP packets have better chances of going through than any other traffic, however any other traffic should be able to occupy full bandwidth in absence of VoIP traffic.

Thank you very much for your help!

Sincerely,

--Andy

said by andrejus :

Hi,

Yes, you are absolutely right...i actually have misconfigured my QoS. I have updated the QoS configuration, and it works like a charm!
I must say that the general possibilities of Tomato FW are endless comparing with HyperWRT.
although i'd like to ask a question if QoS can be configured so the certain protocols/MAC addresses will be sent before anything else. i can see how i can limit bandwidth for certain protocols, but how i can prioritize them. in a sense, i'd like my VoIP packets have better chances of going through than any other traffic, however any other traffic should be able to occupy full bandwidth in absence of VoIP traffic.

Thank you very much for your help!

Sincerely,

--Andy

said by geminijatt :

any idea when a beta or rc version will be released?

said by alec :

Been running tomato on a linksys WRT54G, but it keeps locking up after a few hours.. anyone have any suggestions?

said by geminijatt :

Is there a tomato version with mlppp for the WHR G125?

Only the ND version works for that router. Please let me know.

Thanks

said by NoMore :

I have the same problem as andrejus.
Using WRT54GL w/ the firmware download from the first post.
Set MLPPP as single link and using mtu 1442,port forwarded, rebooted everything, but the torrent speed stay the same over 24 hrs now.

said by gdogg :

hey gord27, my http downloads have been slowed too, using a download accelerator now, (free open source) it can max out the servers
Easy way to get that 1053KB/S via http downloads

It seems like speedtests I use a bunch with MLPPP enabled, get low scores later, after being really good.

said by eviljafar :

It seems from my experience and a reply from Acanac support that Acanac does not support MLPPP. I IM'd Paul at Acanac tonight asking if and when Acanac will support MLPPP. My VoIP is suffering during the Bell throttling period and if I can't get MLPPP working soon with Acanac I might have to become a Teksavvy customer.

said by infamouskid :

mru is 1442 and mtu is 1444 on 2 lines? is this correct?

said by Gokuu :

I've also noticed that QoS seems to be broken as well.

said by rubberglove :

I'd like to ask, though, if anyone is noticing any issues with their wireless networking while using this firmware?

The wired connection to my desktop seems fine, but the wireless connection to my girlfriend's laptop is dropping out periodically (which is not winning me any points, I can tell you). This never happened before with the regular tomato FW...

I'm running on a wrt54g v.3, so far I haven't tried the V2 FW, but I might load that up today to see if it makes a difference.

said by astereix :

just out of curiosity,
Vinch: just checked that screenshot and shouldnt the MTU be set at 1442, or will that small of a difference not cause any problems?

said by DSL_Ricer :

That's your problem right there: pppd is crashing.

said by TilhasBB :

I tested 2 x 6 Meg Links on WRT54GL clocked at 200Mhz and its able to do 1.0Megs/sec. The WRT54GL can be clocked to 240mhz with no cooling just open case.

said by JayMan :

Now could I do this. Give Tomato .73 and tell pfsense to use Tomato as it's internet connection. Will the 1:1 Nat for .74 to .79 work?

Then I can just tell Tomato to DMZ the Pfsense box so all incoming connections are sent to it.

said by JayMan :

So if I did that, and assigned each computer a outside IP. Are they just open to the public with no firewall at all?

or does Tomato block everything unless ports are opened. And if that is the case can you port say port 80 on just 1 IP or does it open for all of them.

said by LucasMoon :

Thank you for the fast response. But I saw that too but it is not beta 2.
It is v1.19-mp2-beta1

said by recneps :

Page 24, third post down.

said by LucasMoon :

Where v2 ?
Thank you!

said by LucasMoon :

Where v2 ?
Thank you!

said by astereix :

what if im not experiencing any problems with v1 single-link?
should i still update to v2?

said by JayMan :

I'm now running the V2 Beta

said by TilhasBB :

nope.

is there a way to lower that number?

said by TilhasBB :

is internet suppose to work if link is droped?

said by TilhasBB :

Multilink status report is not live. If one connection is disconnected it still shows 2/2 and internet wont work with new beta.

said by huh :

Just wondering how's online gaming after using mlppp? Since it introduces some degree of overhead, how will this affect online gaming?

said by huh :

Just wondering how's online gaming after using mlppp? Since it introduces some degree of overhead, how will this affect online gaming?

said by Kareeser :

But what of the reports that there is a 2 second lag introduced while viewing websites?

said by Mersault :

In the interrum, has this version of Tomato messed about with the PPPoE client to the point that it may not work well with other providers or single link (non-MLPPP) connections?

said by Gokuu :

I never use speed tests since they are not accurate - as others have pointed out.

I like to use www.kernel.org and download a large linux kernel image. That site can typically saturate any size pipe any time of the day.

While I don't doubt you are having problems, I think that a more detailed and objective testing regime would be more helpful to Guspaz etc, other than just saying "even my torrents are sometimes limited/slow".

Lets see the data.

said by Guspaz :

What speedtests have you been testing with? We've been using speakeasy (nyc/chi), and that seems to give us predictable speeds when bonded (double a single link).

said by creatine :

I just installed the 1st release of the MLPPP firmware and its working great. I have 2 questions though.

#1 I am using single link MLPPP, I noticed the default value for the MTU is 1442. Should it remain at that value or be changed to 1492 ?

#2 I have an Asus WL-500 router. My internal ip range is 192.168.1.0/24 I am no longer able to access my modem via its 10.0.0.138 address.

Thanks.

said by silvercat :

Do we need to "Restore Default Configuration" with or without clearing the NVram, when upgrading to this new beta release ?

said by emoci :

Just a suggestion:
Add this to the first post....

said by Guspaz :

Small update (this is more for internal use than anything else):

First off, we found a bug in v1 dealing with 3+ links that causes a system-wide crash 100% of the time. So v1 only works with 1-2 links, but this is fixed in v2.

To fix for version 2:

- The router will not properly handle the primary link going down (unless the secondary link also goes down).

- If the primary link is down permanently, the secondary link will never connect.

- Add some sort of status reporting for the multilink status

- Fix the issue where occasional IPCP conf request timeouts on connect cause PPPd to hang

- Fix frequent disconnects under moderate to high packetloss conditions

- Investigate PMTU clamping as it relates to reports of slow browsing speed

- Fixed a bug where 3 or more links lock up the router 100% of the time

- Investigate extremely low speeds reported by some users (daboom)

To fix for v3:

- Automatically create a bridge if user enters a vlan in the MLPPP devices field (makes it easier to add a third modem)

- Possibly fancier/more detailed multilink status reporting than v2

To fix eventually:

- Possibly fix L2TP at some point. It got broken along the way (during the changes to redial), and so was removed. This doesn't matter to anybody here, since everybody is using PPPoE, but would need to be fixed if this were ever to be integrated into mainline Tomato.

said by gord27 :

i know but they at least give me better results than downloading from popular http websites.

also, when i mention my single link issues i'm not talking only about speed tests. even torrents are limited to about 1.2mbit.

said by JayMan :

gord, don't use speedtests. They suck at measuring speed./

said by gdogg :

Using multi-link with RASPPPOE. Having 1 line is interleave has caused issues like what you are having.

But , when I had MTU 1442-1492 , I would also get similar issues, MTU of 1432 has provided the best HTTP speeds (every time its stable under speed tests), when both lines were in FAST-G mode.

I hope this helps

said by TOPDAWG :

Hm not to look dumb where do I turn off the wireless? I want to make sure I turned it off. Ok think I turned it off here is screen.

said by teatroe :

Not so sure of that. This is slowing everything down; web, ftp, torrents, everything.

said by globus999 :

Uh...Oh... sounds like the satanic boxes got an upgrade :(

said by Bismarck :

Hi, just so you know, this is related to VPN.

VPN connections are Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) connections or Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol (L2TP) connections.

If people have been reporting that they can't use VPN with the MLPPP firmware, this may be why.

said by Guspaz :

- Possibly fix L2TP at some point. It got broken along the way (during the changes to redial), and so was removed. This doesn't matter to anybody here, since everybody is using PPPoE, but would need to be fixed if this were ever to be integrated into mainline Tomato.

said by An_Onymous :

Why do you have to forward ports!? You don't even need to tuch anything. uTorrent automatically sets your router for you regardless of what IP your computer get assigned in your subnet.

Another victim of read the junk off old webpages.

said by JayMan :

speedtests are really crappy as testing max speed. You need to download something with a multithread system built in to really max out the line.

said by Spike :

Make sure the UPnP server is *disabled* in the speedtouch modem. (both of them if you have a pair especially). This is mandatory!

said by astereix :

is v2 still gonna come out tonight?
:)

said by gord27 :

anyway, any solutions for slow download web browsing speed with single link?

said by gord27 :

once my new profile gets bumped to 5meg i will plug in the third dry loop we have here and find out. right now the best i could do is 3meg x 3 as mlppp is limited by the slowest sync. though the upload speed would be mighty fine.

edit - btw, my connected time in tomato will keep counting even if i unplug both the internet lines. i think it's a glitch in the firmware. it doesn't seem to disconnect. i'm keeping track of up time by keeping track of my ip which seems to have changed once so far in the last 24hrs since the bell guy set up my second dry loop. i haven't noticed any down time though i was out for 6 hours and i slept for 8...

said by TOPDAWG :

HM not to look retarded but I looked over the other threads and this one and I can't find the faq for MLPPP and how to do everything. Can anyone point me in the right way?

I want to read about it all for my WRT54GL gets here.

said by TOPDAWG :

HM not to look retarded but I looked over the other threads and this one and I can't find the faq for MLPPP and how to do everything. Can anyone point me in the right way?

I want to read about it all for my WRT54GL gets here.

said by Guspaz :

You need to use solid archives. RAR and ZIP don't handle redundancy between different files unless you use a solid archive (which RAR supports, not ZIP). Essentially, this can be thought of as concatenating all the files into one big file and compressing that. I believe that's how I compressed v1.

said by Guspaz :

There's a bit of a problem with your changes, though. With your described settings, it won't be able to detect a line disconnection for 5 minutes, which is hugely excessive. At that point, you might as well just disable LCP echos entirely.

What you want to do (and what we've done with v2) is to lower the echo interval, and increase the count required to match; effectively detecting connections in the same amount of time, but being much more resistant to packetloss.

EDIT: I'm not completely sure what LCP echo settings we're currently using for v2, but I think it was an interval of 5 and a required fail count of 14.

said by sgtnikon :

I also tried playing with the options on the router but quickly found out the lcp options are hard coded and compiled in. I am also using single link mlppp.

So I downloaded all the sources and applied all the patches and re-compiled the firmware. I increased the lcp-echo-interval to 30 and the lcp-echo-failure to 10. My link has been stable for 2 days now. I also ran some pretty heavy traffic through it. With the v1 firmware my link would only last an hour or so.

Folks should be able to use this version until the v2 is released. I hope this helps someone else.

A note to dsl_ricer I think you missed a build script (libfoo.pl) in your patch. I couldn't compile your patched tomato without modifying this build script.

PS. I dunno why my rar doesn't compress it better than 16MB. I tried with best compression.

said by Guspaz :

You need to use solid archives. RAR and ZIP don't handle redundancy between different files unless you use a solid archive (which RAR supports, not ZIP). Essentially, this can be thought of as concatenating all the files into one big file and compressing that. I believe that's how I compressed v1.

There's a bit of a problem with your changes, though. With your described settings, it won't be able to detect a line disconnection for 5 minutes, which is hugely excessive. At that point, you might as well just disable LCP echos entirely.

What you want to do (and what we've done with v2) is to lower the echo interval, and increase the count required to match; effectively detecting connections in the same amount of time, but being much more resistant to packetloss.

EDIT: I'm not completely sure what LCP echo settings we're currently using for v2, but I think it was an interval of 5 and a required fail count of 14.

said by matt_m :

I tried changing the lcp-echo stuff in the config file, but I am missing something there -- the web UI overwrites it I think.

said by gdogg :

Does MLPPP scale well with tomato and 3x 5056/800 lines?
or should I keep using rasppoe method with windows xp?

I can keep a connect for 28 hours w/o loosing mlppp connection (max I tested, prob will run forever) with 2 lines so far.

said by sgtnikon :

I am on teksavvy and the single link mlppp is connecting fine.

The disconnect issues happen under heavy traffic load seem specific to the ST516v6 modems. An early post seemed to suggest increasing the lcp-echo retries/timeouts would help.

Thanks.

said by Steve Jobs :

Does this still work? I just flashed the firmware on to my router but torrent speeds still suck. Do I need to adjust some settings?

said by AnonUser1234 :

daboom: Can you comfirm the 7.4 firmware for the ST516v6 fixes the disconnect issues for single link MLPPP? Has anyone tried this?

I'm running into the same disconnect issues with my ST516v6 and the MLPPP firmware on my WRT54GS (very old model, with no version number).

you need an isp who supports mlppp when you router dials for negotiation. the only isps i think that support this is TSI and velcom. im not too sure f there is more out there. but a lil looking around will help u get the right answer.
Thanks.

said by Omr :

Put it on single link mode, and set your Modem to bridged mode, allow the Router to do the PPOE access portion. That should be it goodluck.

said by yabos :

Does Tomato support iptables commands for more advanced control of traffic? I tried it before but I couldn't seem to get it to work as well as with dd-wrt

said by TOPDAWG :

I've looked over the threads. And I asked one simple thing you could just answer it with your mighty wisdom. Not like I asked you to come over my house and set it up for me. Good god man. I think you really don't want to help cause you know you misunderstood what I asked.

By telling me the answer now you'd have to admit you did not understand me and admit you were wrong. Anyway enough of that it's off topic.

said by AnonUser1234 :

daboom: Can you comfirm the 7.4 firmware for the ST516v6 fixes the disconnect issues for single link MLPPP? Has anyone tried this?

I'm running into the same disconnect issues with my ST516v6 and the MLPPP firmware on my WRT54GS (very old model, with no version number).

Thanks.

said by TOPDAWG :

Linksys WRT54G v1-v4

Well I've no idea if they have version 5 out or something. I know the modal. I can read the thread fine. If the version thing was talked about well sorry I don't want to really read 18 pages.

said by TOPDAWG :

Where is a good place to pick up the WRT54G it's the cheapest out of them all and I want to make sure I get the right version. I want to order it off-line but you can't tell what version you're getting.

I don't seem to be effected yet but I guess it's a matter of time.

said by infamouskid :

i found it very easily. but here's a link to download if you cant find it. i just up'd it to upload jockey.

»www.uploadjockey.com/download/27···.417.zip

said by dscott23 :

I installed the firmware a couple of days ago on my GL v1.1. Everything went fine, but after starting azureus, my connection speeds dropped out after about an hour(connection itself was fine, just no activity). Logs in the router reported pppd died, with the 'failed 3 echo-requests' message. I disconnected and reconnected through the web UI, but the connection died again after about 8-9 hours (I was at work when it cut out, and it remained this way until I got home).

I'm assuming it has something to do with the ammount of connections in the BT client, azureus in my case, as it cut out a lot faster when I was downloading a few things, and lasted longer with only seeding.

This was all with my ST516 modem, firmware v6. I had an old Speedstream 5360 sitting around, so I've hooked that up, and so far everything has been stable. Connection uptime is currently 14:33:18.

So if you're having these issues with the ST516, and you have another modem, try using it. If you don't have a spare one, try lowering the amount of connections in your BT client. It may not eliminate the drop-outs completely, but it might keep the connection alive longer . Not the greatest solution, but worth a try.

said by daboom :

to Guzpaz, dsl_ricer and whoever else if this info helps too. This is with St516 with fm 7.4 and Wrt GL 1.1 router.

1. Your Tweakable Settings
Receive Window (RWIN): 65535
Window Scaling: off
Path MTU Discovery: ON
RFC1323 Window Scaling: OFF
RFC1323 Time Stamping: OFF
Selective Acks: ON
MSS requested: 1402
TTL:
(less any hops behind firewall)
129
TTL remaining: 116
TOS flags: none set
2. Test DownloadActual data bytes sent: 1119337
Actual data packets: 800
Max packet sent (MTU): 1442
Max packet recd (MTU): 1442
Retransmitted packets: 68
sacks you sent: 251
pushed data pkts: 142
data transmit time: 20.182 secs
our max idletime: 349.6 ms
transfer rate: 50368 bytes/sec
transfer rate: 402 kbits/sec
transfer efficiency: 91%

3. ICMP (ping) check Minimum ping: 28.62 ms
Maximum ping: 29.25 ms
Ping stability

said by An Onymous :

Looks like you can ask for a speed profile upgrade...

said by matt_m :

Wow, your version of DMT has a neat interface :-)

said by canadabound :

Here is my DMT picture it has the firmware version in it. Yes it's a speedtouch 516

said by Gokuu :

Go back and read this thread. Guspaz et al are aware of this problem with the ST516. Their "V2" release in the future is supposed to remedy your problem.

said by matt_m :

This is working great, but loses its connection about every hour or less.

said by matt_m :

What firmware do you have on the modem? Is it a 516?

said by canadabound :

Time Fri, 23 May 2008 20:37:03 -0400
Uptime 0 days, 03:18:34

Have been using it for that long and no connection dropped either. Full speed torrents. WRT54GL V 1.1 forked tomato onto it straight out of the box.

said by matt_m :

This is working great, but loses its connection about every hour or less.

May 23 17:06:49  local2.info pppd[2589]: No response to 3 echo-requests
May 23 17:06:49  local2.notice pppd[2589]: Serial link appears to be disconnected.
May 23 17:06:49  local2.notice pppd[2589]: Link terminated.

router is a 'GL, modem is a ST516, version 6.x. Will the 7.x firmware help this situation? Anyone know what one to download and where?

said by An Onymous :

Can you try to limit your uploads in utorrent so that you have a bit of bandwidth available? This would help at least with packet loss on the uplink direction.

said by matt_m :

This is working great, but loses its connection about every hour or less.

May 23 17:06:49  local2.info pppd[2589]: No response to 3 echo-requests
May 23 17:06:49  local2.notice pppd[2589]: Serial link appears to be disconnected.
May 23 17:06:49  local2.notice pppd[2589]: Link terminated.

router is a 'GL, modem is a ST516, version 6.x. Will the 7.x firmware help this situation? Anyone know what one to download and where?

said by Omr :

You can use the the same jack with a splitter aswell just make sure your inner pair lines and outer pair lines are both active ... and actively set the modems for one to connect to the outer and the second the inner. Also make sure it isn't a cheapo splitter as the cheap ones tend to save on costs, by only having the inner pairs available, and no outers present.

said by An Onymous :

My ST516V6 is setup using the web wizard - bridge mode and VPI/VCI = 0.35

Tomato on my WRT54GS V2: PPPoE and the login is done at the router. Pretty much every is at default. I have disable Remote Web/SSH Admin for security reason. No multicase, no ICMP, NAT Loopback = Forward only

Make sure you reset the router to default as the setting from previous firmware might have funny results.

said by gord27 :

if anyone out there is an expert at setting up qos in tomato plz pm me. i'm hoping that this linksys can qos as good as my dlink gamefuel but there are so many more settings and i'm not sure how to best configure it.

said by Guspaz :

Sorry we've been absent for a while guys. We'll probably be pretty silent over the next few days; we're about to take a trip to Toronto for Anime North, and then there's the rally next week, along with assignments... I haven't even really read any posts here today.

So, it'll be a bit before we get back into things.

Why doesn't my password work?[toc, link]
Make sure you're entering the username "admin" or "root". Unlike the Linksys firmware, they are required in Tomato.

If you're upgrading from the DD-WRT firmware, telnet into the router *before* upgrading and type "nvram get http_passwd". The result will be your password in Tomato. This is necessary because of a change in DD-WRT's way of using the standard http_passwd variable.

If you have a Buffalo router or a Linksys with a pushable Cisco logo, push the AOSS/Cisco button for at least 20 seconds, then telnet into the router on port 233. Type "nvram get http_passwd" to retrieve the password or "nvram set http_passwd='your_new_password'" followed by "nvram commit" to set it manually. Reboot the router using the command "reboot" after using this method.

If nothing else works, push the reset button for a few seconds to reset all of the settings. The default password after resetting is "admin".

said by Spike :

When buying from NCIX, get the shipping insurance with express RMA (this is selected at checkout), you pay NOTHING to ship the product back to them if it breaks.

said by daboom :

Leungalv.. in IE7 etc you have to download the plugin for Adobe SVG then it will show you the graphs data. FYI firefox browser has this built in :)

said by invictive :

Looks like I spoke to soon, I just hooked up my 2-wire and its dead:(

I may try upgrading the ST516 to the version 7 firmware though, to see if it makes a difference with the disconnects.

said by invictive :

I am also experiencing the slow web browsing/speed test issue. I am currently using a ST516 v6, but I am just about to hookup my 2-wire so I will report back if that makes a difference.

said by Guspaz :

DSL_Ricer is using a 2wire for all his development work. What version of the firmware of it are you running? Not that I'd think that'd make a difference.

What is reported in the log file? It should be accessible from the UI without going into the command line.

For single link mode (or just "off") you should just be able to plug it into the WAN port and go. Tried the switch ports for the heck of it?

said by gord27 :

k last post i promise. i think i figured out the web browsing issue. it's the same issue i had a few days ago with utorrent being open. as soon as i close utorrent i wait a minute or two and web browsing is perfect again. it's weird though as it comes and goes. some days everything is fine and other days it happens. this happened both on my dgl 4500 and now this linksys. i'm fairly certain it's gotta be a vista/utorrent thing although there is the possibility it is related to the st516. i was previously using a 2wire and i never had the issue. again, though when i was on the 2wire i was also using a windows xp torrent box.

said by Guspaz :

It shouldn't matter what modem you use for that; is the modem plugged into the router's WAN port? Are you sure the modem is in bridged mode? Have you tried plugging it directly into a computer and using a local PPP client?

said by cateatcat :

Asus wl-520gu work with tomato-ND.The firmware just needs to be modified for MLPPP.

said by leungalv :

Yup the router stops responding to pings as well, tested that first :) ... kernal panic? I didn't scare it ... :(

said by leungalv :

Yup, telnet stops responding ... and says "connection lost" then disappears.

said by Guspaz :

We haven't experienced anything like that... Does this also occur with the regular Tomato firmware? Changing your PPPoE username does cause a reconnect, and if it's failing the bring the connection back up, logs would be useful.

said by Guspaz :

As a random note, it appears that the WRTSL54GS is clocked at 264MHz, which might make it a good candidate for people who want to bond two lines (or who want to bond two 7/1 lines). Nobody has tested this on one of them yet, though, to me knowledge.

said by Gokuu :

»www.ncix.com/customercare/#terms

"To return a product you will require an RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization) from us, and unless you are a VIP or Premium Partner member, you will have to pay for shipping charges in returning the product to us. Repaired RMA items will be shipped back to you free"

said by HiVolt :

What could be so different with my WRT54GS v2.0 that has been running solid as a rock with the initial single dsl-line MLPPP firmware?

I am seeing none of the issues some are experiencing.

Uptime 10 days, 04:16:43
Connection Uptime 9 days, 02:03:08

said by madpacket :

Guspaz:

I can also confirm the slow / erratic web page loading with a Linksys WRT54GS v1.1. I've been running 1.19 w/MLPPP for about a week now and have had to reset the router on 3 separate occasions to fix the issue.

said by ymboc :

Perhaps, but keep in mind that loading a single webpage can results in dozens of http requests from a variety of different hosts (ads, different content servers etc etc).

The delays I was seeing in terms of loading a complete webpage (anandtech for example) was on the order of seconds... as in 5-30seconds... When portions of the page were loading, they would do so quickly but then the page would stall for a bit showing the site half-rendered... in the case of the mentioned example there would be 2-4 stalls in loading the front page (speaking roughly from memory). Reverting to tomato 1.19 resulted in 'lightning' fast loads of the complete page of seemingly well under a second. (cache cleared).

I didn't do any tinkering with MTU values. I just left the defaults after the nvram reset.

If there's anything you'd like me to try PM away and I'll do my best to provide useful information.

said by hidingincorner :

The firmware already does this. I am doing this now.

WAN = Modem1
LAN Port 1= Modem2

Lan Port 4 = Link to LAN

The issue you would have if you attempted plugging 3 modems into 1 switch and then into the WAN is how will the system know which modem to use. It will do a broadcast for the modem and the first to reply will get it so all your PPPoE sessions may use that 1 modem.

said by leungalv :

Ok ... maybe it's just me but I've found that every time I switch user names (PPPoE accounts), followed by saving it, I can no longer access the router or connect to the internet. Router has to be unplugged then replugged back in.

Anyone else confirm this?

EDIT: LOL For some reason, my bandwidth graphs are no longer showing either ... :huh:

said by matradley :

Guspaz you should create a "Coffee fund" via PayPal or something. I am sure lots of us would like to reward your efforts. :)

said by va3atc :

Well, if the firmware will use the LAN ports that would be far greater :D

As for an extra TSI account I thought I would simply be using my one account in MLPPP. I understand I would be paying extra band rates but I already have a 200GB cap so why the extra account?

said by Guspaz :

We still have to investigate complaints of slow web browsing. We haven't really noticed this issue ourselves, but think that the "clamp PMTU to MSS" option currently being used to determine the correct PMTU might cause an additional round trip when establishing a web request. This could add up to a few hundred milliseconds to a web request to distant servers, although people may be exaggerating the issue if this is indeed the cause.

said by recneps :

NCIX did NOT pay for me to return a dead mobo to them ($100),
and on top of that, they did not give me the 15 days quoted - they gave me less than a week, so I had to pay for purolator ($30!) to get it to them before the expiry (or they'd just refuse it).
Not impressed with that company at all. CanadaComputers gets 100% of my business now - especially since they're up the road.

WRT54GL was on sale for like $5 off, last I checked their site.

said by leungalv :

I think you're lying lol ... just kidding ... It's just not working out for me :( ... I copied and pasted to the firewall section ... rebooted router ... went into Internet Explorer typed in 192.168.1.254 to no avail.

said by Gokuu :

Worked like a charm on my WRT54G V2 and ST516v6. I rebooted the router after adding to the firewall script.

said by DrXenon :

It's still cheaper than the CC price even with shipping. When I had a DOA hard drive from NCIX, they paid the return shipping.