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ATTN: NOC/ Bill/Teir 2 Support - BGP Routing all jackedHope you still work in support Bill. This is C. Ratto... WAAAAZAAAAAAAAAP!!!
uid: removed@dslextreme.com (was removed@dslextreme.com) pw: hmmmmmm i wonder.....
Support, NOC, & To Who It May Concern:
Ladies, Gentlemen...
I have a tier 3 account through you, which happened to be a nice peer with Covad/Level3 Communications...
What happened to the peer with Level3 in California, and why am I on the peer for ATT (COMCAST... ...PACBELL...)??
Why does the BGP route out of California peer with Level3, but if routing in California the path is over ATT or COGENTCO??
I disappear for a year or two and this is what I find...
I am disappointed in the least. Could it be a possibility to return my node back on the Level3 Link?
Please, I cannot go through another Peering, and Routing, issue again. I am not worried about the latency that happens from time to time. I have provided some traces below.
Regards,
Carlo Ratto
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1 67.103.125.137 h-67-103-125-137.snfccasy.covad.net 0 1 0 12 14 0 0 2 172.22.0.1 19 21 18 30 14 0 0 3 192.168.36.173 19 34 19 183 14 0 0 4 65.46.252.13 ip65-46-252-13.z252-46-65.customer.algx.net 20 22 20 24 14 0 0 5 207.88.80.177 p3-0-0.MAR1.Fremont-CA.us.xo.net 20 23 18 38 14 0 0 6 65.106.5.133 p4-0-0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net 20 24 20 41 14 0 0 7 207.88.12.177 te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net 21 23 21 30 14 0 0 8 207.88.12.178 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net 23 23 21 28 14 0 0 9 192.205.33.57 ggr1-p350.sffca.ip.att.net 25 26 23 38 14 0 0 10 12.123.13.66 tbr1.sffca.ip.att.net 34 34 32 36 14 0 0 11 12.122.19.1 cr1.sffca.ip.att.net 33 33 31 38 14 0 0 12 12.122.3.122 cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 33 33 32 35 14 0 0 13 12.122.19.130 tbr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 34 34 32 35 14 0 0 14 12.122.104.17 gar3.lsrca.ip.att.net 33 36 32 73 14 0 0 15 12.116.103.58 32 33 31 40 14 0 0 16 66.51.199.20 lax1.ns50.eth3.dslextreme.com 33 34 32 38 14 0 0 17 66.51.205.14 mail.dslextreme.com 39 36 33 39 14 1 7
Tracing route to mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms h-67-103-125-137.snfccasy.covad.net [67.103.125137] 2 50 ms 57 ms 64 ms 172.22.0.1 3 61 ms 63 ms 55 ms 192.168.36.173 4 60 ms 63 ms 64 ms ip65-46-252-13.z252-46-65.customer.algx.net [6546.252.13] 5 66 ms 61 ms 60 ms p3-0-0.MAR1.Fremont-CA.us.xo.net [207.88.80.177] 6 69 ms 50 ms 60 ms p4-0-0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net [65.106.5.133] 7 45 ms 54 ms 61 ms te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net [207.88.12.17] 8 64 ms 64 ms 67 ms 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.178] 9 45 ms 47 ms 54 ms ggr1-p350.sffca.ip.att.net [192.205.33.57] 10 75 ms 78 ms 74 ms tbr1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.66] 11 71 ms 99 ms 90 ms cr1.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.19.1] 12 78 ms 78 ms 85 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.3.122] 13 74 ms 54 ms 54 ms tbr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.19.130] 14 82 ms 91 ms 89 ms gar3.lsrca.ip.att.net [12.122.104.17] 15 91 ms 84 ms 91 ms 12.116.103.58 16 89 ms 91 ms 71 ms lax1.ns50.eth3.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.20] 17 115 ms 80 ms 85 ms mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14]
Trace complete.
1 67.103.125.137 h-67-103-125-137.snfccasy.covad.net 0 0 0 1 30 0 0 2 172.22.0.1 77 63 21 78 30 1 3 3 192.168.36.173 75 68 30 134 30 1 3 4 65.46.252.13 ip65-46-252-13.z252-46-65.customer.algx.net 71 66 29 98 30 0 0 5 207.88.80.177 p3-0-0.MAR1.Fremont-CA.us.xo.net 76 68 27 129 30 0 0 6 65.106.5.133 p4-0-0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net 75 68 26 94 30 0 0 7 207.88.12.177 te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net 74 67 30 92 30 0 0 8 207.88.12.178 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net 73 66 28 90 30 0 0 9 192.205.33.57 ggr1-p350.sffca.ip.att.net 80 73 26 215 30 0 0 10 12.123.13.66 tbr1.sffca.ip.att.net 85 82 33 221 30 0 0 11 12.122.19.1 cr1.sffca.ip.att.net 86 83 39 220 30 0 0 12 12.122.3.122 cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 85 83 37 217 30 0 0 13 12.122.19.130 tbr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 87 85 35 216 30 1 3 14 12.122.104.17 gar3.lsrca.ip.att.net 85 95 39 239 30 2 7 15 12.116.103.58 84 83 37 213 30 2 7 16 66.51.199.20 lax1.ns50.eth3.dslextreme.com 85 83 35 212 30 2 7 17 66.51.205.14 mail.dslextreme.com 87 87 41 210 30 3 10
traceroute to 67.103.125.138 (67.103.125.138), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 daisy.getnet.net (216.19.223.119) 0.063 ms 0.012 ms 0.011 ms 2 phnx-gsr0.getnet.net (216.19.201.241) 0.444 ms 0.432 ms 0.413 ms 3 fa0-11.na01.b003026-1.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com (38.104.116.9) 1.484 ms 1.503 ms 2.318 ms 4 gi1-46.3501.ccr01.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.9.21) 0.794 ms 0.820 ms 0.807 ms 5 te4-1.ccr01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.86) 10.884 ms 10.876 ms 10.863 ms 6 te4-1.ccr01.sna02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.25.125) 11.467 ms 12.782 ms 12.908 ms 7 te3-4.mpd01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.38) 13.575 ms 12.414 ms 12.433 ms 8 gi2-0-0.core01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.22) 12.173 ms 12.533 ms 12.522 ms 9 xo.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.242) 13.358 ms 13.333 ms 13.326 ms 10 te-3-1-0.rar3.la-ca.us.xo.net (65.106.1.54) 13.478 ms 14.270 ms 14.244 ms 11 ge7-0-0d0.rar1.la-ca.us.xo.net (65.106.1.53) 12.975 ms 12.962 ms 12.919 ms 12 p6-0-0.rar2.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net (65.106.0.18) 49.594 ms 23.286 ms 23.416 ms 13 p1-0-0.mar2.fremont-ca.us.xo.net (65.106.5.162) 23.095 ms 22.900 ms 22.971 ms 14 p15-0.chr1.fremont-ca.us.xo.net (207.88.80.182) 22.876 ms 22.922 ms 22.910 ms 15 ip65-46-252-14.z252-46-65.customer.algx.net (65.46.252.14) 24.256 ms 24.673 ms 24.645 ms 16 192.168.36.174 (192.168.36.174) 24.622 ms 24.614 ms 24.579 ms 17 172.22.146.133 (172.22.146.133) 81.386 ms 78.295 ms 83.481 ms 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * *
/usr/sbin/traceroute -q 3 -m 30 -w 3 67.103.125.138
1 | host191-1 (207.151.191.1) ( 0.331/ 0.425/ 0.570) 3/3 100.0% 2 | 1wil-7206 (206.124.224.26) ( 0.627/ 0.717/ 0.848) 3/3 100.0% 3 | linkline.com.any2ix. (206.223.143.28) ( 0.628/ 0.931/ 1.471) 3/3 100.0% 4 | GigabitEthernet4-0.G (157.130.236.161) ( 0.857/ 0.980/ 1.088) 3/3 100.0% 5 | 0.so-2-0-0.XL2.LAX1. (152.63.53.62) ( 1.683/ 2.147/ 2.471) 3/3 100.0% 6 | 0.so-7-2-1.XT2.LAX7. (152.63.57.82) ( 1.025/ 1.089/ 1.125) 3/3 100.0% 7 | POS7-0.BR2.LAX7.ALTE (152.63.112.149) ( 1.152/ 6.388/ 16.846) 3/3 100.0% 8 | 205.158.79.121.ptr.u (205.158.79.121) ( 1.111/ 1.296/ 1.650) 3/3 100.0% 9 | te-3-1-0.rar3.la-ca. (65.106.1.54) ( 6.165/ 6.735/ 7.353) 3/3 100.0% 10 | ge7-0-0d0.rar1.la-ca (65.106.1.53) ( 8.242/ 19.950/ 33.944) 3/3 100.0% 11 | p6-0-0.RAR2.SanJose- (65.106.0.18) ( 12.054/ 37.716/ 88.988) 3/3 100.0% 12 | p0-0-0.mar2.fremont- (65.106.5.138) ( 11.990/ 12.457/ 13.252) 3/3 100.0% 13 | p15-0.chr1.fremont-c (207.88.80.182) ( 12.072/ 13.240/ 15.499) 3/3 100.0% 14 | ip65-46-252-14.z252- (65.46.252.14) ( 13.234/ 13.321/ 13.432) 3/3 100.0% 15 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 16 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 17 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 18 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 19 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 20 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 21 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 22 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 23 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 24 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 25 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 26 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 27 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 28 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 29 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0% 30 | * * ( -1.000/ -1.000/ -1.000) 0/3 0.0%
1. rtr-194-55-105-1.alameda.net 0.0% 20 2.1 2.3 1.5 7.1 1.2 2. 66.238.114.202.ptr.us.xo.net 0.0% 20 1.3 1.2 0.6 5.5 1.0 3. ge9-0.dcr2.dc-fremont-ca.us. 0.0% 20 1.6 0.9 0.6 1.6 0.2 4. ge2-0.DCR1.DC-Fremont-CA.us. 0.0% 20 2.8 1.0 0.6 2.8 0.5 5. p5-1-0-2.RAR2.SanJose-CA.us. 0.0% 20 1.5 4.4 1.2 60.9 13.3 6. p0-0-0d0.rar1.sanjose-ca.us. 0.0% 20 3.9 5.4 1.9 25.2 7.6 7. te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us. 0.0% 20 2.1 2.3 1.8 3.0 0.3 8. 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net 0.0% 20 2.2 2.0 1.7 2.8 0.3 9. ggr1-p350.sffca.ip.att.net 0.0% 20 4.2 4.1 3.7 4.8 0.3 10. tbr1.sffca.ip.att.net 0.0% 20 12.7 13.3 12.7 14.9 0.5 11. cr1.sffca.ip.att.net 0.0% 20 13.4 13.6 12.4 23.5 2.4 12. cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 0.0% 20 12.7 12.8 12.4 13.5 0.3 13. tbr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 5.0% 20 13.0 13.2 12.7 14.2 0.4 14. 12.122.104.5 0.0% 20 13.2 26.4 12.8 125.9 33.9 15. 12.116.103.58 0.0% 20 12.6 12.5 12.2 12.8 0.2 16. lax1.ns50.eth3.dslextreme.co 0.0% 20 13.5 13.6 13.0 14.4 0.5 17. mail.dslextreme.com 0.0% 20 16.5 15.9 14.5 18.9 1.1
1 67.103.125.137 h-67-103-125-137.snfccasy.covad.net 0 0 0 1 72 0 0 2 172.22.0.1 75 136 32 227 72 0 0 3 192.168.36.109 75 133 31 226 72 0 0 4 192.168.254.142 73 130 29 224 72 0 0 5 65.46.252.13 ip65-46-252-13.z252-46-65.customer.algx.net 77 130 28 223 72 0 0 6 207.88.80.177 p3-0-0.MAR1.Fremont-CA.us.xo.net 75 136 26 298 72 0 0 7 65.106.5.133 p4-0-0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net 73 133 23 230 72 0 0 8 207.88.12.177 te-3-4-0.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net 76 128 42 217 72 0 0 9 207.88.12.178 207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net 77 125 31 215 72 0 0 10 206.111.12.146 206.111.12.146.ptr.us.xo.net 75 120 31 214 72 1 1 11 12.123.13.70 tbr2.sffca.ip.att.net 81 122 41 212 72 2 3 12 12.122.19.89 cr1.sffca.ip.att.net 79 121 39 210 72 3 4 13 12.122.3.122 cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 81 117 38 208 72 3 4 14 12.122.19.130 tbr1.la2ca.ip.att.net 80 110 37 242 72 3 4 15 12.122.104.17 gar3.lsrca.ip.att.net 82 106 39 201 72 3 4 16 12.116.103.58 80 97 38 251 72 5 7 17 66.51.199.20 lax1.ns50.eth3.dslextreme.com 85 94 36 248 72 4 6 18 66.51.205.15 extremetele.com 81 93 40 246 72 5 7
[note - I removed your email, telephone and account numbers, it's not a good idea to post them in a public forum - fb] |
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dslx_gm ISP Employee join:2002-12-26 Chatsworth, CA |
dslx_gm
ISP Employee
2008-May-16 4:57 pm
Carlo,
It looks like you are on one of our Covad based packages. In that specific area on that package it utilizes the Covad DSLAM and IP network.
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Support,
OMG, WTF is going on with your support team. I do not understand that responce. No disrespect to the L1's and Sales, but....
Please ESCALATE!
I thought I had been clear in regards to the issue at hand. I was ill advised.
As I had posted previously....
I have a tier 3 account through you, which happenes to be Covad/Level3 Communications...
When routing within CALIFORNIA (The path between YOU and I, then Path between I and YOU, forward, and reverse BGP protocol) you (DSLX) have been peering with ATT/SBC.
When routing outside of the state, CALIFORNIA, you have constant PEERING using your LEVEL 3 PEER.
Why, are we (DSLX Customers) and I being forced to use your TEIR 1 ASN PEERS, rather than the TEIR 3 PEERS that some of us may be paying for?
Need I go on?
Please could you have a T2 Tec, or a sup have a look at this please??
Regards,
Carlo Ratto
[Removed] cratto2 AT DSLEXTREME.COM
[Mod note: Phone number removed. Do not post any personal info in a public forum. Email address obscured. -sash] |
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sashwa Mod join:2001-01-29 Alcatraz 446.4 4.0
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sashwa
Mod
2008-May-18 6:57 pm
Carlo, George aka dslx_gm is the highest level of support you can go. He is the General Manager of DSLX. |
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dslx_gm ISP Employee join:2002-12-26 Chatsworth, CA 1 edit |
to cratto2
Carlo,
The route is due to Covad on the far end. When I query the route, Covad is specifically padding Level 3 and pre-pending their AS 2 more times like so:
3356 18566 18566 18566
They are not doing this for AT&T.
7018 2828 18566
BGP Routing is Dynamic. Just because it goes in or out one Tier 1 provider, does not mean it everything will go in or out that same provider. |
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en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
en102
Member
2008-May-19 11:08 am
Level 3 is still used $ tracert www.howardforums.com
Tracing route to www.howardforums.com [207.210.82.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.254.11
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms netblock-68-183-12-1.dslextreme.com [68.183.12.1]
3 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms netblock-66-218-58-137.dslextreme.com [66.218.58.137]
4 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms ge-5-2-115.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [63.209.70.133]
5 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms vlan51.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.102.30]
6 21 ms 18 ms 17 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.17]
7 45 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.78]
8 75 ms 72 ms 71 ms ae-7.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.134.22]
9 63 ms 63 ms 63 ms ae-27-52.car1.Atlanta4.Level3.net [4.68.103.44]
10 64 ms 63 ms 63 ms CWIE-LLC.car1.Atlanta4.Level3.net [4.53.232.14]
11 63 ms 64 ms 68 ms l3-atl-17-g0-1.gnax.net [63.247.65.86]
12 64 ms 64 ms 63 ms hf1.howardforums.com [207.210.82.131]
Trace complete.
$ tracert mail.dslextreme.com
Tracing route to mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.254.11
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms netblock-68-183-12-1.dslextreme.com [68.183.12.1]
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms netblock-66-218-58-137.dslextreme.com [66.218.58.137]
4 11 ms 10 ms 12 ms lax1.ns50.eth3.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.20]
5 16 ms 13 ms 13 ms mail.dslextreme.com [66.51.205.14]
Trace complete.
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