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swashbuckle
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Bell movie store coming.

Anyone plan on using this service when it comes out on the 21st.

looks like windows only and you can only play it on selected devices.

I wonder if it will count towards your DL cap.

Bell Canada will launch the Bell Video Store on May 21st with a full customer facing marketing launch beginning that week.

Bell Video Store is an online movie and TV download service that allows Canadians with a broadband connection to download full length movies as well as TV shows and music videos/concerts. Customers will be able to download to their PC, Laptop, or Archos Media Portable player (not Mac compatible).

Once content is downloaded, there is no need for an internet connection to watch it. It will be easy for parents to download and have the kids watch on a laptop, in the car, or up at the cottage!

Customers will have a variety of options for buysing content: download to own starting at $4.99 and download to rent starting at $0.99.

Bell Video Store is Canada's one stop shop for all things video:

Hollywood blockbusters
Content from major studios
Kids' television programming
Music videos/concerts
Movie trailers
Actor info
Social networking tools where users can rate, review and chat
Simple buy flows
Billing via Credit Card (Visa, MasterCard, Amex)
Full self-serve solution including registration
FAQ section & Demo

oh yeah
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oh yeah

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which is why bell is throttling, in order to push their OWN PAY for use content.

Fucking bullshit is what it is.

knowall
@dsl.bell.ca

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Yeah, instead they should let leaches suck on their network to the point where no one can use it.Build your own friggin network and no BS about taxpayers money. I haven't paid taxes for years but still pay my phone bill.

Bellundo
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Probably to help people bust their caps which would be very simple. I imagine the apple downloads of HBO programming will be speed throttled down to nothing so it takes months to download one show.
olebiker2
join:2008-04-16
Glenburnie, ON

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said by knowall :

Yeah, instead they should let leaches suck on their network to the point where no one can use it.Build your own friggin network and no BS about taxpayers money. I haven't paid taxes for years but still pay my phone bill.
Duhh ok

JGROCKY
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LOL... How does this move not surprise me.

tyrnnsrs
join:2007-09-26
Hamilton, ON

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This site has been up for a few months now, even before they started throttling the wholesalers. I guess they are finally starting the marketing push on it.

chronoss20081
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LIKE MAYBE INSTEAD A DOING THIS

THEY COULD FREAKING BUILD UP THE ENTIRE NETWORK TO HANDLE A MOVIE DOWNLOAD BEFORE ClAIMING TO THE CRTC THEY CANT HANDLE IT.
ALSO,
SAC proposal to start as an offer was 5$ a month for legal p2p use = 1.2 billion per year if all net accounts in canada were done.
at 50cents thats double the current CDR levy.
Thats right i pay a cdr levy and you want me to pay again????????????

give them 1$ a month or 2 a month and im in any more and its the same old greed and NOT ONE PENNY IS GOING OT BUILD FASTER SPEED.
This = Shareholder tax grab.
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Edit note:
maybe we all should pay that to SAC and tell them to build us a SUPER FAST internet and write it as a contract that after we download it we do with it what we want.
Id rather deal with artists any day. At least we totally get past any "unethical" issues, and by (the) god(s), i am shocked htis doesn't get right to the president of the crtc in short order.

A) Distribution = almost NOTHING so whats the cost of this ?
think about that 10 dollar music cdr that the artist gets 50 cents maybe a buck
B) So from 90-95% = distribution cost. What does it cost for 700 meg download or a 4.2gb dvdr?
-Well TSI tells me 200GB costs me with taxes 34$
That is 17$ per 100GB or

-1.7 per 10 GB about 2 dvdrs.....
and they want what?

Even Warner Brothers said the model that was discussed at the fair copyright for canada facebook page at less than 5$ per user would net them world wide 20 billion....

A HUGE BOOST in revenue instead a sueing people.

We get soaked for cell phone costs , for gas prices ( an egyptian said he pays 35cents a litre we also have oil why aren't canucks getting a discount....ask Mulroney why he signed that part of the free trade deal that gave away that possibility)

babette
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Bell my friend, in a capitalist system there's only one way to make your vote actually count, do not spend your dollar on this system and make sure there's nobody around you that will buy into it.

Rum98
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I received an e-mail from Sympatico last winter about this video store. As an ExpressVu customer with Center Ice i was able to stream the live games for free. I did not buy or rent any movies or TV shows. There really wasn't much selection then but they were adding a lot of content almost daily. It was in Beta testing.

I have an unlimited account so wasn't worried about about GB totals. I also spend a lot of time reading dsl reports and i can see what is going to happen.

The future will be if you use a lot of Bell services, you will probably be able to DL/UL as unlimited and have a fast connection. If you want to use p2p or download/buy from another source (Rogers or zip.ca or whoever else sells online) then you will be throttled.

Because i could not understand why Bell would tell me i can stream all these hockey games yet tell the world that they need to throttle and lower peoples GB totals at the same time.

It is all bullshit and the reason 'net neutrality' and throttling issues need to be fixed immediately.

--Rum

eots
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I hope CAIP uses this info against Bell in their next response to the CRTC. I would bet Bell won't be throttling this service as that would dissuade people from using it.
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And now we know why throttling was brought in. The plan is unveiled.

They know people are downloading movies so why not make money off of that plus make it anying and expensive and then release the solution, their own movie site.

Problem-Reaction-Solution. Bell using the Hegelian
principle.

Nice
NoName186
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When this comes out I'll put away the torrents and start paying for things

Bell already has a music store, makes sense they'll try it with vids too.

url pls
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whats the URL to this site thats been up for a few months now?

Helper316
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Wow, asking people to pay for movies instead of downloading them for Free! The ballz these guys have!

helper666
@mc.videotron.ca

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said by Helper316 :

Wow, asking people to pay for movies instead of downloading them for Free! The ballz these guys have!
what people download is NONE of yours or anyones business, Be it porn, cartoon shows or MP3's. Bell is not a content police (but they are being one).

Also, this in turn now shows us more. I'll let you guess what it is.

anon485382
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whats the URL to this site thats been up for a few months now?
lol 3 seconds and 1 google query.

»www.bellvideostore.ca/Ab ··· age.aspx

TI POIL
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Is it on a P2P protocol??

eots
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I honestly can't see this site being very successful when they're charging just as much (or more) to download the videos than you would pay to rent or buy them in a retail video store. For example, Bell is selling Beowulf for $19.99 and you have to download it and burn it to a DVD and the download counts against your bandwidth usage, while Future Shop is selling the HD version of the same movie for $14.99.

dunno there
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said by eots:

For example, Bell is selling Beowulf for $19.99 and you have to download it and burn it to a DVD and the download counts against your bandwidth usage, while Future Shop is selling the HD version of the same movie for $14.99.
Hmmm i don't know about the burning to dvd part you mentioned.

Per their web page:
Videos can be played on a PC/Laptop, on the TV via a compatible DMA (Digital Media Adapter), or through a direct connection from your PC to a TV.

Don't think you can burn these DRM infected movies to dvd and play them anywhere you want to like a store bought dvd.

»www.bellvideostore.ca/Wa ··· Own.aspx
either you buy some MS-DRM infected player for about 200$, stream from PC-TV, or watch it on your PC.

also "THESE VIDEOS WILL NOT PLAY ON MOST PORTABLE VIDEO PLAYERS"

seems like pure crap to me.
Expand your moderator at work

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Re: Bell movie store coming.

So Bell is charging people more to buy a download that you can't burn and watch anywhere you want. Makes no sense when you can buy the retail boxed version for less.

tyrnnsrs
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Im surprised they don't make these more enticing by offering the downloads as free bandwidth that won't count against your monthly limit.

eots
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It's impossible not to have the download count against bandwidth caps when downloads aren't limited to Sympatico customers only. They should make the download significantly cheaper than going to a retail store to purchase the same video, otherwise there's no incentive to download it.

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3.
Can I make my download go faster?
The speed that which you download files can be affected by many factors. These factors include overall traffic on the network, your ISP and your computer settings.

If you are experiencing slow downloads, please ensure you have exited all other programs that may be downloading files or other bandwidth intensive programs such as P2P file sharing programs.
qewey
join:2007-10-04

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said by eueruasfasdfqa :

3.
Can I make my download go faster?
The speed that which you download files can be affected by many factors. These factors include overall traffic on the network, your ISP and your computer settings.

If you are experiencing slow downloads, please ensure you have exited all other programs that may be downloading files or other bandwidth intensive programs such as P2P file sharing programs.
A technical question answered by the marketing department

basically it says if you want speed with our service that you paid for, do not use our competitors applications ... actually exit/close everything and do not download anything else besides from us ... it summarizes in one sentence Bell wishful dream world lalaland network and service philosophy.

The Bell way of doing business ... dumbening it down to the lowest denominator and profit from customer's technical ignorance.

Somehow I dont see a bright future for a company with this kind of business philosophy.
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One word: FAIL

This service doesn't even compete with retail movie purchases, how is it ever going to compete against P2P (assuming that's what their goal is)?

It could be a success if:

-prices were competitive vs. retail
-downloads were DRM-free
-bandwidth didn't count for BS customers

At the moment, the service has NOTHING to offer that isn't already available elsewhere.

Bellundo
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Better add if the movies were in their original resolution. I read on the web page 1500 to 2200 kbps. Gee what happened to the other 6000 or so kbps? The dvd standard is 2000 and up so many of them wouldn't even play if they were burned directly to a dvd.

ShadPTR
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PLEASE ROCKY,
Please take this to the CAIP to discuss this nonsense.
Xempler
join:2007-12-13
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But...but...Bell's lines are already so congested with people using P2P applications for downloading all kinds of crap. Isn't that why they started throttling everyone?

So now they want you to pay to download THEIR movies....gimme a break. Something smells here...and it smells like bullshit.