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Re: arrrgh mateys
said by rob_in_chatt  :and i hope the Piratebay wins. earlier this week, we saw that the RIAA can be beat. And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison.
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basquiat
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| Ah, TK misses the point again. See in Sweden, as in Canada, downloading music is not illegal, possibly unethical but not illegal. On top of that the Pirate Bay has zero content on its servers. Basically it provides links (like Google) and no real content.
Check out »thepiratebay.org/legal for some amusing links to previous (failed) hollow legal threats. |
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comcastmeh
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it all depends what "crooks" you want to deal with, tpb enables piracy just as much as google imho.
i really hope tbp wins, piracy is making money off someone elses "work" if i download a song (i dont do songs radio is free) and i am just listening to it all by my lonesome then the riaa can just shove it. i would've downloaded it bc i dont have the cash to pay for it bc that sooo much easier to buy a cd than to find a good quality song online. |
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K Patterson
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Well, the legal threats are not hollow. It is only a matter of time before these guys end up in big trouble. Their ridiculous emails in response to takedown notices will end up in the court record.
Now, I don't care for the RIAA and their approach in the US is a ludicrous abuse of the legal process, but it is their property and sooner or later folks who upload and download are going to pay for it. |
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yabos
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Ingersoll, ON | reply to basquiat
They're still making lots of money off their site. You could argue that since they are making big $$$ from their site they are profiting from piracy even if indirectly. |
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ja2007123
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TBP hosts trackers but Google doesn't. That's Common Sense. |
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CaptainBarbosa
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said by GOLFnSUN :And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison.
Along with thousands of other right-wing, capitalistic, white collar criminals who have learned to skirt the law. |
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Noah Vail
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T=Troll J=?
As you NEVER meaningfully respond to rebuttals,
you are,
in effect,
a troll.
Going to respond to that point?
I doubt it.
NV
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Re: arrrgh mateys
said by GOLFnSUN :And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison. gosh yes, not like those great organizations, IFPI and the MPAA, who are real straight shooters! |
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said by GOLFnSUN :said by rob_in_chatt :and i hope the Piratebay wins. earlier this week, we saw that the RIAA can be beat. And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison. Actually the users are the crooks...the pirate bay is no different from google, yahoo, or ask. All they do is index the files that tell where the location of where the files are.. |
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said by GOLFnSUN :The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison. Yes! The owners of the music are corrupt and should be in prison for the strongarm tactics they employ against their signed artists and the public.
The Pirate Bay doesn't host copyrighted materials.
»thepiratebay.org/about
"Only torrent files are saved at the server. That means no copyrighted and/or illegal material are stored by us. It is therefore not possible to hold the people behind The Pirate Bay responsible for the material that is being spread using the tracker. Any complaints from copyright and/or lobby organizations will be ridiculed and published at the site."
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said by GOLFnSUN :said by rob_in_chatt :and i hope the Piratebay wins. earlier this week, we saw that the RIAA can be beat. And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison. Last time I checked, Where Pirate Bay servers are located, it is NOT Illegal to download music.
Just because it is here in the good ol USA, doesn't mean it is everywhere. So basically the AA's have NO case, unless they bully TPB government into submission with their gobs of money and lawyers. 
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K Patterson
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Re: arrrgh mateys
Sweden is a signatory to most of the International treaties on copyright and phonograph recordings. I believe that it is only a matter of time before a more comprehensive and rational approach to copyright protection evolves under these treaties, which will be the end of RIAA's (and others) misconduct.
It will also be the end of anyone who facilitates the taking of intellectual property. |
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said by GOLFnSUN :And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison. Nice troll there... Gotta love how you skirt the actual issues and just post one logical fallacy after another. Seriously, do your posts ever contribute anything substantive? |
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qworster
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You are a troll!
Who do you work for? An RIAA member company or an MPAA member company? |
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K Patterson
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1 edit | Well, that's not much of an argumentum ad hominum. Surely you can do better than that.
Neither. I don't know much about MPAA tactics, but as I have posted repeatedly I do not approve in any way of the RIAA approach. Did you actually read what I posted?
Let's stick to the discussion, please. |
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RARPSL
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Re: arrrgh mateys
said by ja2007123 :TBP hosts trackers but Google doesn't. That's Common Sense. Both TPB and Google provide the location of data which you request them to locate. The only difference is that Google supplies the URLs of Web Sites while TPB supplies .TORRENT files that point at files that can be accessed via a P2P client. In fact, Google will supply you with the URLs of Trackers. |
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ksuderman
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Canada is also a signatory of the same treaties and it is legal for people residing in Canada to make copies of the music they have purchased, including making copies from the internet.
As has been pointed out previously, US law does not apply outside US borders, and just because corporations make the laws in the US doesn't mean they do everywhere (yet).
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robertfl
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no such thing as right or left wing..
the global elite want control, this isn't a part of the plan.
just like the gas prices going up and up (yes.. it's controlled by the global elite.. NOT opec)
the pirate bay is just a portal. if people want to download music there, let them I have other ways of getting music
downloading music only told me to buy the cd.. now that the RIAA is fighting this, buying cd's is wrooooong since they bring home most of the $20 or $15 (or, in the case of pink floyd's the wall $35)
the artist gets $.25 cents per disc sold.
wake up please people.
-Rob
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