 ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
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Re: arrrgh mateys said by fAcEtIOUs:said by rob_in_chatt:and i hope the Piratebay wins. earlier this week, we saw that the RIAA can be beat. And I hope the Pirate Bay loses. The owners are nothing but crooks who should be in prison. Last time I checked, Where Pirate Bay servers are located, it is NOT Illegal to download music.
Just because it is here in the good ol USA, doesn't mean it is everywhere. So basically the AA's have NO case, unless they bully TPB government into submission with their gobs of money and lawyers. 
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K PattersonPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | Sweden is a signatory to most of the International treaties on copyright and phonograph recordings. I believe that it is only a matter of time before a more comprehensive and rational approach to copyright protection evolves under these treaties, which will be the end of RIAA's (and others) misconduct.
It will also be the end of anyone who facilitates the taking of intellectual property. |
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1 edit | You are a troll! Who do you work for? An RIAA member company or an MPAA member company? |
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K PattersonPremium,MVM
join:2006-03-12
Columbus, OH
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1 edit | Well, that's not much of an argumentum ad hominum. Surely you can do better than that.
Neither. I don't know much about MPAA tactics, but as I have posted repeatedly I do not approve in any way of the RIAA approach. Did you actually read what I posted?
Let's stick to the discussion, please. |
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Re: arrrgh mateys Canada is also a signatory of the same treaties and it is legal for people residing in Canada to make copies of the music they have purchased, including making copies from the internet.
As has been pointed out previously, US law does not apply outside US borders, and just because corporations make the laws in the US doesn't mean they do everywhere (yet).
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2 edits | said by ksuderman:Canada is also a signatory of the same treaties and it is legal for people residing in Canada to make copies of the music they have purchased, including making copies from the internet. And you truly think that people are downloading copies of music they already own and not copies of music they don't own? Don't make me laugh.
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| Just because some people choose to break the law does not mean corporations can strangle my rights to do what is legal for me. Guns are used to commit crimes, as are cars, should both/either be made illegal because some people use them to commit crimes?
And actually, I was a little to conservative in my original claim; it appears any download of copyrighted material for personal use is not illegal in Canada...yet.
"Sharing copyrighted works on peer-to-peer networks is legal in Canada, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday, handing the record industry a sharp setback in its international fight against file swappers." [»www.news.com/2100-1027_3-5182641···=st_pop]
"Canadian courts have ruled that consumers have the right to copy any recording from the original copy even those they do not personally own. This consumer right has been extended by the courts to include peer-to-peer downloads." [»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_c···ght_law]
"Copyright violation is NOT a crime, unless in the pursuit of profit. It is and always has been a civil matter at the end user level. Of course, if you press 1000 DVD's with the motive to sell the work, that is in fact a crime.
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Simply read the FBI warning on ANY DVD word by word and you'll note the subtle distinction, as they cannot call it a criminal offense, and do not, because simple filesharing and personal violation of copyright is not a crime." [»www.edu-cyberpg.com/Music/musiclaw4.html]
Of course, the CRIA (Canada's version of the RIAA) is fighting hard to change the laws, and oddly the ones fighting against the CRIA... the musicians: "But the Canadian Music Creators Coalition, whose members include Sarah McLachlan, Sam Roberts and Avril Lavigne, has said it would not like to see a law that would lead to lawsuits against music fans." [»www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2007···aw.html]
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by ksuderman:Canada is also a signatory of the same treaties and it is legal for people residing in Canada to make copies of the music they have purchased, including making copies from the internet. And you truly think that people are downloading copies of music they already own and not copies of music they don't own? Don't make me laugh. Yes! I know technically challenged people who find it easier to download their songs opposed to ripping their cd's in respect to bullshit drm and putting it on a mix cd for auto or onto a mp3 player. Ironic? |
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