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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| GSM was cracked A long time ago... its TDMA based.
What does make things difficult are things such as frequency hopping, DTX and handoffs. I know that in my area, I have MANY handoffs between sites (at least once/minute). As an extra bonus, 3G (UMTS/WCDMA) is a lot more similar to CDMA which Verizon, Sprint, etc. use, and more difficult to 'hack'.
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iLive4Apple
Hybrid power
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join:2006-07-13
Helena, AL | Re: GSM was cracked The encyption on GSM is weak. iDEN which is used by Nextel is encrypted better and much more secure. 3G uses a better encryption pattern though. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: GSM was cracked I would tend to agree. That end of GSM is quite old. At least 3G has a CDMA based interface which is much more difficult to hack.
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DJMADfx
join:2002-02-27
Bellmore, NY | Re: GSM was cracked Just don't plan the meet up via cell phone, land line, VoIP, or the internet.  | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Very true... privacy is mostly illusion these days.
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| | | | AquaSport
California - Sun, Surf, Traffic Jams
join:2007-05-03
California
·Comcast
| yes, I have come to expect weird noises on my telephone line, internet connection problems ("unscheduled maintenance"), ususual GSM cell phone static ("the largest All-Digital network"? Ha! My ass it is!), and with anything else electronic, I assume that it is being publicized on the internet as I speak/type.
To me, nothing is "Private", so don't tell anyone anything you don't want the entire country to know, unless it's face-to-face. At first it was creepy to think that someone is listening in on your phone calls, but now when i hear that little clickey noise, I invite them to join the conversation! 
the world (or, at least the U.S. of A) is a messed up place, sometimes. 
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| | | jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: GSM was cracked You may not be paranoid, but it doesn't mean everyone's not out to get you. | |
| | | | AquaSport
California - Sun, Surf, Traffic Jams
join:2007-05-03
California
·Comcast
| Re: GSM was cracked said by jester121  :You may not be paranoid, but it doesn't mean everyone's not out to get you. oh I'm not saying that I'm not paranoid - I've just given up with the whole "privacy" thing.
various government agencies have passsed so many laws that are an invasion of privacy (the wiretapping "protect america" or whatever - law, for example), that I just now expect that someone is listening to my phone call, and that I probably shouldn't talk about my illegal drug trafficking from Venezuela (just kiddin'!) over the land line or cell phone (prepaid or otherwise).
remember that story about comcast implementing "face recognition technology" into your cable boxes so that they can "open your DVR recordings list to your preferred list of shows". Total BS. It's gotten so rediculous that I don't expect privacy anymore, see?
link to story: »Your Comcast DVR Is Watching You
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cowboyro
join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
 ·Optimum Voice
| said by N3OGH :Anyone who operates under the illusion of an expectation of privacy over any digital or analog common carrier network is walking through life with rose colored glasses on. Cell phone? Assume someone is listening... Land line? Assume someone is listening... VoIP? Assume someone is listening...... Internet? Assume you're being tracked..... If I want a private conversation with someone, I meet them in person someplace secret. If I want to keep something a secret, I keep it to myself. PERIOD. Remember, 3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead.... So true!
In the military we had a label on all "field" phones: "ATTENTION! THE ENEMY IS LISTENING!" | |
| | ricep5
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join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL | Everyone who fears that someone is listening also assumes that what they talk about is interesting or desirable.
In most cases they are neither, therefore most people have nothing to worry about. | |
| | | AquaSport
California - Sun, Surf, Traffic Jams
join:2007-05-03
California
·Comcast
| Re: GSM was cracked ricep5,
second point - absolutely true. the first one, though, i have to disagree.
even if i'm having the most boring conversation on earth with someone over the telephone, i should still take note if something unusual happens, right?
i'm basing my opinion off of odd experiences, not frivilous daydreaming, and if I act like an arrogant fool and don't realize that some things are no longer private, then some day, if I'm having a conversation that needs to remain private, and I don't take that into note, then my arrogance might just come back and bite me in the ass.
Security is living in Antartica
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| the most secure data is that which can only be accessed in person and has no network or outside connection and is in a vault with a smaller AC vent then the one in Mission Impossible.
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