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2 edits | Comcast Analog Migration
I thought I would open up this topic to help those who will/may be confused between DTV (Digital Transition) and Analog Migration...
An Analog Migration is a decision by Comcast to stop sending customers an Analog signal of a channel, and only send a Digital signal.
An Analog Migration is NOT the Digital Broadcast Transition which requires broadcast channels such as ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, CW etc. to ONLY broadcast in Digital by February 2009.
Comcast will be (if you haven't gotten one already) mailing letters out with bills explaining some of the changes that will be taking place. Basicly, just remember "broadcast stations" are your local news stations like ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and PBS. These channels Comcast will continue to transmit in Analog. All the other channels (ex. TVLAND, Animal Planet, Disney, Nickelodeon,etc..) that may currently still be analog will be gradually moved over to digital. Those channels you will need a Digital Cable box to receive unless your TV set already has a built-in Digital TV (DTV) tuner in it.
Visit the following link for more information - »www.comcastdigitalworld.com/
Mod Note: See also --> »More Analog to Encrypted Digital transitions | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by sansri88 :Thanks for clarifying things. Just a question, how come my zip code isn't found? 08830. Edit: Here's a good question in the Q&A: Q: Does this have anything to do with the Digital Broadcast Transition? A: No, and it´s important to understand the difference between this change and the Digital Broadcast Transition. These are two unrelated events. This change to your service is driven by a desire to strike an appropriate balance between the interests of our digital cable customers and our remaining analog customers. The federally mandated Digital Broadcast Transition in February 2009 impacts over-the-air broadcasters, but not cable companies. Every television connected to Comcast cable will continue to work after this change to the way broadcasters transmit their signals. Because we´ve pledged to continue serving both analog and digital customers, only those using an antenna to receive over-the-air signals will be impacted. sansri88 - yes, I want to make sure people understand, because Analog Migrations are coming up. Many currently analog stations will be switched to digital only. Only the "Broadcasted Stations" like ABC, NBC, PBS, etc. will continue to be sent to customers using analog. The rest of the channels will be moved into digital.
Eventually TV's without a DTV Tuner and without a Digital Cable Box (once the migration is completed - all channels except your local channels) the TV will only get the local channels for your area. | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by sansri88 :Alright thanks. I've shot out an email to our region's marketing department to find out more. Do you still waste your time with NJ II Marketing Depto? I have ZERO faith or trust on them. -- COMpressionCAST of New Jersey II(Union) Verizon DSL And who would think Eli would outplay Brady... | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |   JeepMatt Delaware Fios Premium join:2001-12-28 Wilmington, DE | Re: Comcast Analog Migration Rumors were of something along this line occurring for Philly Metro as well - but info has been pretty tight lipped.
Any peeps out there with any info, please share. -- "ONE team - ONE city - ONE dream!!" | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration wbub reported it was going to be happening in late June timeframe, a different system each week or something. He said my system in Lower Bucks was happening around June 29th(or so, can't remember the exact date), a total rebuild of analog channels, re-lining up physical channel locations to optimize for future services like more HD, DOCSIS3.0, etc. I'm assuming this was what he was referring to. | |
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join:2005-02-10 Philadelphia, PA | Re: Comcast Analog Migration I remember Wbub saying that the channel migration will happen for Philly on June 23rd so maybe on May 23rd the zip code will work for Philly zip codes. Wbub you out there??? | |
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| said by BSD24 :Not sure, it is a new site but we are giving it out. The site just opened on 5/15/08 so it might not be fully functional, who knows. Or maybe no changes are happening in the next 2-3 months for your area, I don't know though. I bet it is likely the division/region your in might not have gone into the new site yet. We will be using the follows ways of contacting customers: -30 Day Legal Notification Bill Insert To view copies of the letters by town please use the customer web site (www.comcastdigitalworld.com ) and simply by entering the customers Zip Code, this will allow you to view both the letter the customer received AND the specific list of channels impacted in their town. -Bill Message (Please read the important notice regarding changes your Comcast Cable service located within this bill. For more information or to inquire about related Comcast Digital Cable discount offers, please call 1-800-COMCAST or visit www.comcastdigitalworld.com) And other means, but the 30day notice is required by law(subject to state regulations, which could vary by state). I would think that some of the links don't work because many areas have no plans to migrate analogs "very" soon. And my market, in particular, sucks at even notifying people of these things. One particular digital to analog migration slew in Savannah was a seemingly random decision that caught customers by surprise because there was absolutely no advanced notification. I would have to guess that my market probably won't even be using the site if it can't even notify through billing statements. | |
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join:2005-02-10 Philadelphia, PA | BSD24-Do you know when this will happen for Philly? | |
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1 edit | I know customers made a big stink when Comcast moved a few analogs in our area recently. It's because of this big stink and negative press from local news and TV reporters that they are going to be very careful in doing the next moves. Will it happen any time soon? Most likely not, as they want to limit the amount of negative press that they get.
It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital. | |
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1 edit | Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by cypherstream :I know customers made a big stink when Comcast moved a few analogs in our area recently. It's because of this big stink and negative press from local news and TV reporters that they are going to be very careful in doing the next moves. Will it happen any time soon? Most likely not, as they want to limit the amount of negative press that they get. It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital. cypherstream - I agree. As I have said before, analog channels take up alot of space. Just think of the possibilities. 12 Digital Channels can replace every 1 Analog Channel. Besides making digital channels, it frees up space and bandwidth for other things like more HD, more Video On Demand, better quality enhancements etc.. | |
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join:2005-02-10 Philadelphia, PA | I think this is Great!!! Has anyone put in a zip code that works? | |
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join:2003-04-14 Weirton, WV | what division is western pa, ohio and west virginia under? | |
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join:2005-07-24 Marietta, GA | This info must only apply to certain parts of the country because my current zip in the Atlanta area isn't valid. I tried my old zip from New England and that worked, so this info must apply to at least the New England area. | |
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join:2003-04-14 Weirton, WV | the site only works if comcast is planning on moving channels around before august. My city is moving channels in july so it showed me what channels are going where on july 15. | |
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  JohnInSJ Premium join:2003-09-22 San Jose, CA | so, those are going to be clear qam, right? yeah, sure -- My place : »www.schettino.us | |
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join:2008-05-08 Hanover, PA | Re: Comcast Analog Migration That would make to much sense. We wouldn't need those "expensive" boxes that they "lose" money on if they did. | |
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join:2006-12-06 Indiana, PA | Unless has a built in DTV tuner? huh? You mean QAM / ATSC tuner or what? Because every channel comcast has moved to digital here is ENCRYPTED! which is BS when you had it unencrypted in analog FOREVER! | |
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join:2006-12-06 Indiana, PA | All our TV's are DTV (aka has QAM tuners and ATSC tuners) but all the analogs that comcast has moved to digital are encrypted which does not play well with a TV that has no built in decrypting scheme (aka cablecard) | |
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join:2006-12-06 Indiana, PA | Re: Comcast Analog Migration Expanded basic cable with a box still? wow... we haven't had a box for channels over 20 something for almost 20yrs now here | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by neufuse :Expanded basic cable with a box still? wow... we haven't had a box for channels over 20 something for almost 20yrs now here Some area's, to help deture theft, have scrambled expanded basic. Center City Philly, and Baltimore are two area's that I can think of. In these markets, Bandwidth reclamation should be rather easy. Customers are already used to having a box connected to their TV. It's just a matter of switching the analog box for a digital box.
If everythings scrambled, a thief connecting themselves to an open tap port, or illegally splitting into someone else's line, has much less to steal. | |
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2 edits | I know customers made a big stink when Comcast moved a few analogs in our area recently. It's because of this big stink and negative press from local news and TV reporters that they are going to be very careful in doing the next moves. Will it happen any time soon? Most likely not, as they want to limit the amount of negative press that they get.
It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital. That advantage is tempered by the added cost of a STB for every TV. In my case with five TVs, that adds up to a negative, not a positive.
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  BSD24 Tier 4 Premium join:2008-04-30 Middleboro, MA clubs: | Yea guys - it only will have your zip in the system if your area has a plan for when they will be doing the migration. If you have Comcast and your zip doesn't work, that means that most likely your migration isn't scheduled yet. | |
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| I believe that money saving device is called "Dish-TV"
When the analogs go dark for me, Comcast loses a customer. Unless they make them clear QAM. We should check to see if hell freezes over as well...
I am ok with it either way, and I'm sure they won't miss my nearly $1000/year for expanded-digital+HD. -- My place : »www.schettino.us | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by JohnInSJ :I believe that money saving device is called "Dish-TV" When the analogs go dark for me, Comcast loses a customer. Unless they make them clear QAM. We should check to see if hell freezes over as well... I am ok with it either way, and I'm sure they won't miss my nearly $1000/year for expanded-digital+HD. I love when people make this statement. What do you think you need to watch DISH on EVERY tv you have?? Hmmmm??? Oh, that's right, a box. Unless you're talking about the dual-DVR where you can backfeed 1 signal to another tv - but even there it's through the box. -- "ONE team - ONE city - ONE dream!!" | |
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join:2006-12-06 Indiana, PA | Re: Comcast Analog Migration Yeah when I figured out the cost of a dish for us, it was actually MORE expensive then cable when you get the same channels with the number of DVR's and TV's we have | |
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| said by JeepMatt :said by JohnInSJ :I believe that money saving device is called "Dish-TV" When the analogs go dark for me, Comcast loses a customer. Unless they make them clear QAM. We should check to see if hell freezes over as well... I am ok with it either way, and I'm sure they won't miss my nearly $1000/year for expanded-digital+HD. I love when people make this statement. What do you think you need to watch DISH on EVERY tv you have?? Hmmmm??? Oh, that's right, a box. Unless you're talking about the dual-DVR where you can backfeed 1 signal to another tv - but even there it's through the box. thank you. I never understood this either. people can complain all they want about needing boxes, but they'll need them wherever they switch too.
analogs can't be killed off soon enough if you ask me. | |
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| said by JeepMatt :I love when people make this statement. What do you think you need to watch DISH on EVERY tv you have?? Hmmmm??? Oh, that's right, a box. Unless you're talking about the dual-DVR where you can backfeed 1 signal to another tv - but even there it's through the box. I know that - there is NO DIFFERENCE between cable and dish if I need a box to feed my PVR for either - so I might as well save a few hundred dollars a year.
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| Comcast's decision to encrypt nearly all of the digital channels is not related to "theft", at least if it was then they're not being consistent about it. Here we have the analog channels 1-72 which are NOT encrypted or scrambled. That is our "expanded basic", which is what I get, and my TVs and TiVO receive them all just fine. However, our system has already been transitioned to a digital simulcast, meaning all those channels are sent digitally as well, and my TV that has a QAM tuner is only able to get clear access to the few "local broadcast" channels, everything else is not available. If I switch it to analog, the channels are all there. If there was such a problem with theft, then wouldn't Comcast have been requiring STBs for all the analog channels as well?
To me it is simply another example of corporate greed. They want another fee they can tack on to your bill each month. | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration I half agree. [Incoming long post].
Some markets required a box for all transmissions above regular basic (this was mentioned in another topic around here). Others, like mine, don't. I guess the only thing they do is put a trap in the line to filter out stuff you don't subscribe to. I've never had to deal with that personally, but if I'm wrong someone feel free to correct me. Nonetheless, all the wiring is underground here with the green cable access boxes in the backyard. Comcast (or their contractors) are really wreckless around here and do not close the boxes up when they're done... thus allowing people like the neighbors behind me to steal cable. This is about when my signal strength severely deteriorated. What happens when I call Comcast to complain? Nothing. For 6 months. At that point, I got angry and felt that any loses Comcast was having to cable theft was it's own problem, especially since my neighbors showed off their setup to others. They could cry foul on signal piracy, but they surely don't take analog signal theft seriously... at least, around here.
So when I see situations like this come up, it kinda makes me feel like how DRM works. It won't stop cable theft (something will come to break it--it always seems to happen one way or another)... and it definitely makes things harder/more expensive for the honest customer. Is it a deterrent? Yeah, maybe. But for someone like me, it's just not worth it. When people I know are talking about how they will switch to U-verse, satellite, or simply download shows because they don't want the hassle of shelling out more money for more boxes? They get confused when their 'HDTV ready' branded TVs suddenly require another box from cable company. It's just.. cumbersome.
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| Comcast could always go the route of a dirt cheap bare bones basic digital to analog adapter.
Check out this very interesting article: »www.multichannel.com/article/CA6559621.html
Bottom line, the cost for purchasing even 100,000 DTAs is far cheaper than upgrading to 1 GHz, or deploying regular DCT-700's (which new ones can no longer be deployed because our FCC has it out for integrated security boxes).
PACE is also developing a DTA, and Comcast could very well use their unit. It fits in the palm of your hand, has just cable in/out, power, and an IR sensor and small channel LED. »www.multichannel.com/blog/100000···696.html | |
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| The article that cypher posted quotes Burke as saying Comcast "will be rolling them out pretty aggressivly in Q4" Can't come soon enough for me. If they really do ditch 40 analogs, are they really gonna add a bunch more HD channels? They seem to be more interested in HD "choices" rather than channels, to which I say try getting an HD on-demand program started with one button press on the remote, and in 2 seconds, what it takes to change a channel. HD on-demand quality is much less than HD channels.
Looks like they are looking to get rid of more analogs sooner than later, instead of SDV, we haven't heard any progress on SDV testing in quite awhile.
Time Warner is taking a different approach in upstate NY, they have completed SDV(750mhz system) and have increased HD channels from about 14 to around 30 in a mater of about one month. All the new HD channels and sports PPV packages are switched. No chatter about removing many analogs like Comcast. | |
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join:2004-11-11 Olathe, KS | That Comcast Website could be wrong because 66062 is invaild and Comcast Olathe/MO could be moving some channels before August and not letting that Website now to report it. Also that Website should say when channels are being added. | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by Mgsports :That Comcast Website could be wrong because 66062 is invaild and Comcast Olathe/MO could be moving some channels before August and not letting that Website now to report it. Also that Website should say when channels are being added. Mine (06118) does not work either, and I already know what channels are moving to digital on July 16th. -- I ain't got time to bleed! | |
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| Re: Comcast Analog Migration said by pplchamp1 :said by Mgsports :That Comcast Website could be wrong because 66062 is invaild and Comcast Olathe/MO could be moving some channels before August and not letting that Website now to report it. Also that Website should say when channels are being added. Mine (06118) does not work either, and I already know what channels are moving to digital on July 16th. pplchamp1 -
Thats odd because Connecticut is part of the same Division as mine. Human error is possible since it is a newly implemented website. I will check on that. Thanks. | |
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| Remember when the Comcast Tivo website came out, for a few weeks no matter what zip code you put in, you weren't found in the database. Even working New England zip codes that had the option for Comcast Tivo didn't work in that website.
I think what you see here is a brand new site that's going to take quite a bit of time to get it's backend databases fully populated with the correct information. With as many different Comcast systems in the country today, it will be a large collaborative effort to get every zip working. | |
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join:2004-11-11 Olathe, KS | How do you know because I don't when mine is yet because the KC Star won't tell us or Comcast Olathe/MO won't send out a letter saying what their are going to be doing soon? Only said doing changes to the Lineup. | |
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join:2003-04-14 Weirton, WV | yep no zips work now. Not even pittsburgh or weirton. Maybe someone leaked the site and it was supposed to be internal so they made all the information internal? | |
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 |   meskinct Mad Scientist at Work Premium join:2002-01-07 Danbury, CT clubs: | Re: Comcast Analog Migration My zip still works. 06810 | |
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join:2003-04-14 Weirton, WV | nothing around pittsburgh including weirton,wv works yet. I dont know if comcast changed their minds or what!!!! | |
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