Comcast Analog Migration in Comcast Cable TV

Comcast Analog Migration in Comcast Cable TV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20502779 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:44 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:44 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21128648 rv65 : »www.lightreading.com/document.as···site=cdn

Maybe security is possible but Comcast admits that it might now be their highest priority. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21128648 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:03:13 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21124047 Greg2600 : cypher, you're analysis makes too much sense for Comcast I think. ;) I think I'm going to swallow the contract exit fee and switch to FIOS right quick anyway. I can't wait around for another 2 years for Comcast to get this DTA out there. Especially after I read they're dropping the newsgroup support. I'll miss the MoviePlex trio and News12 NJ, but I can't take CC's lack of improvement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21124047 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:41:37 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21122407 GTFan :

said by cypherstream

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Who knows, maybe it will use standard PSIP data and require a full channel scan prior to it's use. It would force Comcast to fix all digital simulcast PSIP information so that they all line up on the correct channels. Time will tell what method they use.

One can only hope. I've seen on another forum that the FCC actually requires them to pass through the PSIP info, but we know that's not true (and the FCC doesn't care). Don't really understand why except that maybe they don't want you to see all those nice local HD's in clear QAM without a box. Very frustrating for the average user to remember that local channel 2-1 is actually Comcast channel 104.810.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21122407 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:26:21 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120733 cypherstream : I'm leaning on believing that it will be ClearQAM only. If they encrypt the QAM it includes 2 major problems. Cost per box increases as decryption capability is added. And 2, the FCC would get their panties in a bunch because there's decryption going on within the unit (not separated on a cable card).

Reusing already existing traps make sense. They are already in place on Limited basic and data only subscribers drops. No truck roll needed!

Your moving expanded basic to digital, and expanded basic would currently be trapped if you don't subscribe. Limited basic / data only users won't see a difference. Well they wouldn't get the few channels that leak through (66-74 here).

Somehow however, the DTA needs to be addressable (only one way however). It needs to be told the channel map. No guide or anything, just a table of where to find each channel. A simple NVRAM which can store a frequency/pid map obtained from either the current Motorola OOB channel, or a new OOB/addressability controller would have to be installed, and a frequency found for it. In theory they could send a signal to "Shut off" the DTA in non-bill pay/theft situations, but the capabilities all will come down to how much it costs to implement it.

Who knows, maybe it will use standard PSIP data and require a full channel scan prior to it's use. It would force Comcast to fix all digital simulcast PSIP information so that they all line up on the correct channels. Time will tell what method they use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120733 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:32:48 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120605 rv65 : But if the DTA has no encryption then people with ClearQAM enabled sets can view them no problem. It has it's benefits as well. I think they will lease the DTA's for some ridiculously for much less than a regular box. Comcast may give one for free. Like I said there are a bunch of ClearQAM enabled SD CRT's. Hope this helps. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120605 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:13:22 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120560 Greg2600 : Forcing customers into buying new Television sets is the worst approach of all. They need to provide a cheap or possibly free method of offering the customer the same Analog channels, on their current TV sets. The method is unencrypted DTA's. It makes the most sense. They could probably get away with charging for the DTA's two or three bucks a month by providing access to all the non-premium SD channels below 200. Someone in another thread complained that they have 7 TV's on Analog, but honestly that is the exception by far. We have 3 on Digital, 3 on Analog, and that is a lot of TV's for a 1 family house. Comcast really should be doing this already. Their lax is foolish.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21120560 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:06:48 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21116497 rv65 : GTFan,

They have cheap SD CRT's made in Asia that have ClearQAM tuners. Though many new HD sets have them. They can also engineer the traps to work with digital instead of analog. Although most cheap LCD's are coming with them. Right now security isn't the highest priority on these things though it's possible. Probably is in the customers best interest but we all know how cableco's like comcast operate. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21116497 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:57:51 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21115674 GTFan : I certainly hope they decide to unencrypt the expanded basic QAM's so I won't have to bother with DTAs - instead I'll just go buy a couple of cheap LCD's with QAM tuners to replace my remaining extra-room analog sets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21115674 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:43:09 EDT Re: Proof that Analog Reclaim Works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21115154 Greg2600 :

said by JeepMatt

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Living proof that analog reclaims work?

FIOS TV in the Philly Metro area went from 33 to 87 HD channels in the past week. 15 more are on tap in October.

All analogs were reclaimed in late June - July.

Yes, 54 HD channels added in a week.

That was possible because Verizon planned ahead, and purchased the DCT 700's. Those are no longer available to Comcast. Plus, FIOS has a significantly smaller customer base than Comcast. It was easier for Verizon on all fronts. Comcast got caught with their HD pants down, and now they are paying the price. Oh well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21115154 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:55:33 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21114721 rv65 : Yet some company says they may be able to put security on the DTA. It would be a simple Sim or smart card with some security code. Would probably be cheap and easy to implement. Broadcom says the DTA can support encryption but the FCC says no way. Yes they could easily do that. I think the trap solution is ideal even if it requires truckrolls to fine tune them. Although it could be possible to encrypt them but I think if those channels were clearQAM then more people would be able to watch them. Though some cableco's mess up the ClearQAM and thus forcing people to rescan their channels. Some are good at clear qam like Time Warner San Diego. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21114721 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:37:20 EDT Proof that Analog Reclaim Works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111875 JeepMatt : Living proof that analog reclaims work?

FIOS TV in the Philly Metro area went from 33 to 87 HD channels in the past week. 15 more are on tap in October.

All analogs were reclaimed in late June - July.

Yes, 54 HD channels added in a week.
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For example, currently my system deploys a trap that blocks out channels 28~65 if you only subscribe to basic service. Well with the DTA they could locate the clear expanded basic digital channels on 31-34 if they desire. Then with all the extra new found bandwidth from 28,29,30,34-65, they could locate services that require at least Expanded Basic ANYWAY, like HD versions of Expanded basic, Digital Plus, or whatever other tiers they want to call them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111634 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:10:26 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111450 rv65 : The Terapix setup can be used on more than 1 tv just fine. I'm not a comcast user so I don't know about alternative charge. They would probably charge a monthly fee for extra DTA's. Probably less than 3 USD a month. QAM tuners are nice since you can get local channels and even radio channels since they don't encrypt them. Clear QAM can be had on SDTV's as well. I have seen cheap Asian made digital CRT's that have a Clear QAM tuner. I do know that basic digital is slightly cheaper than expanded basic but digital basic requires a box on more than 1 TV.

The DTA box still has some issues on security. Security may be 2nd but the content providers aren't going to want some unencrypted device. Not encrypting expanded basic would allow those people with clearQAM sets to be able to view them just fine. CableCard is out of the question since the cost is expensive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111450 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:32:41 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21110173 reidcc : Thank You-

But doesn't Comcast also have their alternative outlet charges as well? Over and above Box rental?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21110173 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:44:44 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21109927 rv65 : reidcc,

There was a product called the Terapix from Broadlogic. This chipset can be used as a residential gateway. This chipset would be able to mux the digital SD channels as analog. However comcast will go to a DTA. DTA's are like those CECB's. No security which means it uses ClearQAM. Just a super tiny box that allows people to watch TV. A lot of new TV's are using ClearQAM tuners which are unencrypted digital channels. Comcast will make a limited number of channels analog. Limited Basic is analog. I have a small Samsung with a ClearQAM tuner in an office. Comcast will give out 1 DTA then maybe rent them for 1 to 2 USD a month. Also Tru2way is coming out which uses a special card for Digital with all the features. Hope this helps. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21109927 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:52:22 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21109736 reidcc : OK-
I am just finally trying to get up on this changeover and what we lose by not changing TV's and service. I live in Central Mass.

Do let me get this straight- I have 6 analog TV's in my house- I pay $53 a month for cable service- no pay channels. If do not change service- I will lose channels as Comcrap decides to take away. If I upgrade to Digital service- I will now need to rent 6 convertor boxes(which I do not want).

So I buy 3 new Digital TV's and get the kids to buy their own Digital TV's- to avoid the Box rental- only to find out I STILL Need to RENT a flippin box for each TV. Where is the justice in that? Why do I want a rental BOX?

I can't wait to compare this to Verizon FIOS strategy when they come to town in a couple of months!!! I refuse to pay additional fees for each TV. I will cancel both ComCrap AND Internet and go back to Dialup.

Chris]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21109736 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:11:05 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20712051 quetwo : Because then they wouldn't be able to sell you the box per month. Just like the phone companies, they are looking for any fees they can add 'below-the-line']]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20712051 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:49:56 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20710981 cypherstream : Wow that's cool! I like that company. They are upgrading around here (lots of slack fiber spooled up, extra feeder running past poles not hooked up, underground area's dug up, new peds put in, etc..).

But say a cable card is $2 a month. It would still take at least 50 months to break even!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20710981 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:47:12 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20710898 MadMANN :

said by cypherstream

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I seriously do not ever see cable cards being SOLD directly to the consumer, especially through a retail outlet like Bestbuy or Walmart.

Actually, SECV sells their Moto cards for $100. They give you the option to buy or rent, although it is not advertised.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20710898 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:25:33 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20710381 OldLady779 : My question is, why can't they just take the channels that are in the analog package and when they switch them to digital send them in the clear? So people with televisions with digital/qam tuners can still pick them up without the boxes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20710381 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:39:27 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20708553 Rob :

said by SHIREY SHIRLEY :

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU DONT GET THE DIGITAL,
YOU CAN NOT GET ALL OF THE CHANNELS WILL THE PRICE OF SERVICE GO DOWN?

NO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20708553 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:08:39 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20708500 anon : I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU DONT GET THE DIGITAL,
YOU CAN NOT GET ALL OF THE CHANNELS WILL THE PRICE OF SERVICE GO DOWN?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20708500 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:58:26 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20685114 patspub : "WBub"-Do you know when N/E Philly will see channel Repos??? I thought a few months ago you said this would happen on June 23rd(today) there were no changes today. Do you know when?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20685114 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:56:59 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20661402 Greg2600 : The problem with the loss of Analog is that most people still have Analog televisions. I'd have no problem paying for a lease of a box and remote, which I think is around $4 per month. But it's the additional outlet fee which is not fair or right. How is that any different than Internet access or phone access? You pay ONE rate only, and can split it off yourself. I could see maybe paying for multiple TV On-Demand access, but having multiple TV's does nothing to the overall bandwidth. You are only getting one signal. I think Verizon and the Sats charge the same way too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20661402 Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:03:50 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20637311 JeepMatt : Man-
Even more areas getting Discovery and Sci-Fi HD! :huh:
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»www.post-gazette.com/pg/08165/889539-42.stm

Also go to the Comcast Digital World web site and you will also see more changes. I tried zip code 15237. Still nothing for Philly yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20637234 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:35:05 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20604147 mikedz4 : why did comcast remove mention of all analog migration in western pa, and northern west virginia?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20604147 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:48:30 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20601474 Chad473 : I'd love for our market to be part of that 20%, but after all the apparent complaining from the february migration I'm doubtful.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20601474 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:45:25 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20600939 pennstatejim : Saw this posted today on CBS3.com out of Philadelphia:

»cbs3.com/topstories/comcast.inte···003.html

In addition to the info we already know about 20% of the customers by the end of this year, it also states that they expect the majority of customers to be switched to digital from analog by early 2010.

This is the first time I can remember seeing this on a news outlet, outside of this forum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20600939 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:16:49 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20584815 plat2on1 : wow i think thats the first time i'v seen carmel mentioned in any post :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20584815 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:09:43 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20584742 BSD24 : **UPDATE**

Please note that there are two different dates for the Analog to Digital Migrations in the CT-West Region.

All of the (Traditional systems) (Western MA, Hartford, Berlin, Avon, Vernon, New Haven, Danbury, Branford, Lakeville, Clinton, Groton, Middletown) are scheduled for migrations on 7/16/08. These areas have or will be receiving notifications of the changes.

The 750 MHz systems will see multiple migrations. The 625 MHz systems only have NECN migrating. Also on 7/16 in all traditional systems, TNT HD, ESPN HD, MOJO, UHD, and HD Theater will move from Digital Classic to Digital Starter, and National Geographic Channel HD will move from Digital Starter to Digital Classic.

Carmel, Waterbury, Seymour, Norwich and Old Lyme are scheduled for migrations separately on 8/5/08. Customer notification will begin on June 5 in these systems.
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said by johncase3

said by BSD24

Just so you know changes are going to be continuing to happen. The FCC also said that people will be able to buy Cable Boxes soon. You will eventually be able to buy these cable boxes from retailers like Best Buy, Circuit City as well as the cable companies will eventually allow you to purchase the equipment from them. Similar to the reason people are allowed to buy their own cable-modems.
Tivo already has a cable-box type being sold that requires cable cards. This is how cable-boxes will be sold and why the new cable boxes are called Host-Boxes. The box will have 1-2 slots for cablecards to be used. This way when people buy the cable-box and they move to an area outside of their present cable provider (like a Comcast customer moving to a town that has Cox or Charter) to another provider, they can return the cable cards to Comcast and get new ones to the new cable provider put them in the box and it would work on that new system.

Be patient, and as time goes on many changes will be happening to cable customers across the country. Some people may change things quicker then others

For each additional cable card, but the cable card price (inclusive of the addtl outlet fee) is still cheaper than a box. $1.50-$2 for the first cablecard and $5 for the second additional outlet or in this case the additional cablecard. People who need 2 cable cards for one device (ex. Tivo Series 3) is priced for 2 cards. If you just need 1 card for your TV, it just depends if its considered the first tv-equipment rental or additional. But either way it is cheaper than the box itself. Only problem is no Video OnDemand, No guide from cable provider and no PPV. But it saves money compared to a cable box for HD (which is on average $12.95).

I can't stress enough you need to get pricing from local customer care, but it depends also on the scenario. Meaning if its 2 hd boxes plus 2 cablecards for other tvs, or whatever you have for a setup in your home. Always remember your first rented-equipment for CableTV is always discounted. Each additional is charged normal cost. Cablecards are priced differently, almost as if every 2nd cable card (ex. cablecard # 2, 4, 6...) is charged the extra $5. Every odd number cable card is either $1.50 or $2.00. But again check with customer care for exact pricing for your situation and setup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20538448 Sun, 25 May 2008 18:58:47 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20536720 johncase3 :

said by pgoelz

It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital.

That advantage is tempered by the added cost of a STB for every TV. In my case with five TVs, that adds up to a negative, not a positive.

Paul

Agreed. I understand the benefits but also the disadvantages. Having 70 channels on my media center computers and cable ready TV's at no extra cost is a big plus. $288/year for 3 more boxes is a big hit just to get back to where I am now, and that won't cover all my media center computers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20536720 Sun, 25 May 2008 09:44:53 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20536660 johncase3 :

said by BSD24

The problem with cablecards is, while the equipment rental price is cheap ($1), as mandated by the FCC, Comcast gets around this by tacking on another $3.50/month "additional outlet service" fee. (Patmedia did not charge this fee. Now I regret not getting the card and being grandfathered in.)

So instead of just renting a box, we will be paying the cable company NOT to have a box, and buying our own box, and paying for repair/replacement when it breaks. This is better?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20536660 Sun, 25 May 2008 09:20:02 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20530577 PhillyJim : I would definitely drop Comcast in a heartbeat if Philly SportsNet was available on dish. A LOT of other people I know would too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20530577 Fri, 23 May 2008 17:39:06 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20528158 pennstatejim : I would welcome analog migration with open arms...Even though, as Cypher said, there was a backlash in this area because of it last time, I think it's the wave of the future.

I find it funny to hear people at bars, etc., complaining about Comcast migrating channels they watch requiring a box now, raising the rates, etc, and how they don't want a box for every TV, and then the next words out of their mouth is "I'm switching to DirecTV".

Cypher, in fact, the most common complaint I've heard around here isn't the loss of analogs, but is from sports fans who say "Comcast jacks the rates, and then holds us hostage by not allowing Philly SportsNet to be broadcast via dish, leaving us no choice if we want to see our teams play." ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20528158 Fri, 23 May 2008 09:49:29 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525139 mikedz4 : nothing around pittsburgh including weirton,wv works yet. I dont know if comcast changed their minds or what!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525139 Thu, 22 May 2008 18:11:18 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524840 pplchamp1 : Mine, 06118, now works.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524840 Thu, 22 May 2008 17:15:02 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20522343 JohnInSJ :

said by JeepMatt

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I love when people make this statement. What do you think you need to watch DISH on EVERY tv you have?? Hmmmm??? Oh, that's right, a box. Unless you're talking about the dual-DVR where you can backfeed 1 signal to another tv - but even there it's through the box.

I know that - there is NO DIFFERENCE between cable and dish if I need a box to feed my PVR for either - so I might as well save a few hundred dollars a year.

Duh.
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said by Mgsports

:

How do you know because I don't when mine is yet because the KC Star won't tell us or Comcast Olathe/MO won't send out a letter saying what their are going to be doing soon? Only said doing changes to the Lineup.

mgsports -
I believe the general rule is the FCC requires Comcast notifies of changes 30days in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513215 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:32:41 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513209 BSD24 :

said by pplchamp1

said by Mgsports

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That Comcast Website could be wrong because 66062 is invaild and Comcast Olathe/MO could be moving some channels before August and not letting that Website now to report it.
Also that Website should say when channels are being added.

Mine (06118) does not work either, and I already know what channels are moving to digital on July 16th.

pplchamp1 -

Thats odd because Connecticut is part of the same Division as mine. Human error is possible since it is a newly implemented website. I will check on that. Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513209 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:31:41 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512992 pplchamp1 : I know it was working with a Weirton, WV zip.... (26062) yesterday, but now that one is not even working.

Why launch a site that is not ready to be launched?
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I think what you see here is a brand new site that's going to take quite a bit of time to get it's backend databases fully populated with the correct information. With as many different Comcast systems in the country today, it will be a large collaborative effort to get every zip working.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512892 Tue, 20 May 2008 15:40:09 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512867 pplchamp1 :

said by Mgsports

Mine (06118) does not work either, and I already know what channels are moving to digital on July 16th.
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Also that Website should say when channels are being added.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512816 Tue, 20 May 2008 15:28:12 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511813 ak3883 : The article that cypher posted quotes Burke as saying Comcast "will be rolling them out pretty aggressivly in Q4" Can't come soon enough for me. If they really do ditch 40 analogs, are they really gonna add a bunch more HD channels? They seem to be more interested in HD "choices" rather than channels, to which I say try getting an HD on-demand program started with one button press on the remote, and in 2 seconds, what it takes to change a channel. HD on-demand quality is much less than HD channels.

Looks like they are looking to get rid of more analogs sooner than later, instead of SDV, we haven't heard any progress on SDV testing in quite awhile.

Time Warner is taking a different approach in upstate NY, they have completed SDV(750mhz system) and have increased HD channels from about 14 to around 30 in a mater of about one month. All the new HD channels and sports PPV packages are switched. No chatter about removing many analogs like Comcast. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511813 Tue, 20 May 2008 12:46:54 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511209 Chad473 :

said by JeepMatt

said by JohnInSJ

:

I believe that money saving device is called "Dish-TV"

When the analogs go dark for me, Comcast loses a customer. Unless they make them clear QAM. We should check to see if hell freezes over as well...

I am ok with it either way, and I'm sure they won't miss my nearly $1000/year for expanded-digital+HD.

thank you. I never understood this either. people can complain all they want about needing boxes, but they'll need them wherever they switch too.

analogs can't be killed off soon enough if you ask me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511209 Tue, 20 May 2008 10:55:44 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510888 meskinct : Cypher - That first article is excellent. I was just about to post it here and saw you beat me to it. Definitely a good read. Figure you could reclaim about 300MHz of spectrum by going mostly digital. Probably leave the local broadcast affiliates as analog though.
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Check out this very interesting article:
»www.multichannel.com/article/CA6559621.html

Bottom line, the cost for purchasing even 100,000 DTAs is far cheaper than upgrading to 1 GHz, or deploying regular DCT-700's (which new ones can no longer be deployed because our FCC has it out for integrated security boxes).

PACE is also developing a DTA, and Comcast could very well use their unit. It fits in the palm of your hand, has just cable in/out, power, and an IR sensor and small channel LED.
»www.multichannel.com/blog/100000···696.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510790 Tue, 20 May 2008 09:22:20 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510651 neufuse : Yeah when I figured out the cost of a dish for us, it was actually MORE expensive then cable when you get the same channels with the number of DVR's and TV's we have]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510651 Tue, 20 May 2008 08:47:05 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510368 JeepMatt :

said by JohnInSJ

I love when people make this statement. What do you think you need to watch DISH on EVERY tv you have?? Hmmmm??? Oh, that's right, a box. Unless you're talking about the dual-DVR where you can backfeed 1 signal to another tv - but even there it's through the box.
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Some markets required a box for all transmissions above regular basic (this was mentioned in another topic around here). Others, like mine, don't. I guess the only thing they do is put a trap in the line to filter out stuff you don't subscribe to. I've never had to deal with that personally, but if I'm wrong someone feel free to correct me. Nonetheless, all the wiring is underground here with the green cable access boxes in the backyard. Comcast (or their contractors) are really wreckless around here and do not close the boxes up when they're done... thus allowing people like the neighbors behind me to steal cable. This is about when my signal strength severely deteriorated. What happens when I call Comcast to complain? Nothing. For 6 months. At that point, I got angry and felt that any loses Comcast was having to cable theft was it's own problem, especially since my neighbors showed off their setup to others. They could cry foul on signal piracy, but they surely don't take analog signal theft seriously... at least, around here.

So when I see situations like this come up, it kinda makes me feel like how DRM works. It won't stop cable theft (something will come to break it--it always seems to happen one way or another)... and it definitely makes things harder/more expensive for the honest customer. Is it a deterrent? Yeah, maybe. But for someone like me, it's just not worth it. When people I know are talking about how they will switch to U-verse, satellite, or simply download shows because they don't want the hassle of shelling out more money for more boxes? They get confused when their 'HDTV ready' branded TVs suddenly require another box from cable company. It's just.. cumbersome.

[/stopping before i go way off topic.]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20509828 Tue, 20 May 2008 00:35:56 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20509748 fuziwuzi : Comcast's decision to encrypt nearly all of the digital channels is not related to "theft", at least if it was then they're not being consistent about it. Here we have the analog channels 1-72 which are NOT encrypted or scrambled. That is our "expanded basic", which is what I get, and my TVs and TiVO receive them all just fine. However, our system has already been transitioned to a digital simulcast, meaning all those channels are sent digitally as well, and my TV that has a QAM tuner is only able to get clear access to the few "local broadcast" channels, everything else is not available. If I switch it to analog, the channels are all there. If there was such a problem with theft, then wouldn't Comcast have been requiring STBs for all the analog channels as well?

To me it is simply another example of corporate greed. They want another fee they can tack on to your bill each month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20509748 Tue, 20 May 2008 00:12:11 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20508041 patspub : I remember Wbub saying that the channel migration will happen for Philly on June 23rd so maybe on May 23rd the zip code will work for Philly zip codes. Wbub you out there???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20508041 Mon, 19 May 2008 18:33:23 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507991 cypherstream :

said by BSD24 :

Yes you still have to rent cable-cards. It is cheaper than the box cost per month. Probably (if not already) there will be cable cards sold at stores, maybe customers will be able to bring it to a provider to program it, but maybe I am getting too ahead of technology. But anything to save money would be nice for everyone.

I seriously do not ever see cable cards being SOLD directly to the consumer, especially through a retail outlet like Bestbuy or Walmart. Why? While I'm sure people will assume it's just because "the MSO's are greedy and want their money!", the reality is that the encryption method used by those cable-cards (or even older non-cablecard boxes) work on a public/private key method. Pretty much, that means that the MSO has go back to CISCO/SA or Moto to get the proper keys loaded onto their systems so that they can properly authorize the cards and the card then knows how to decrypt the MPEG streams. The simple logistics of a bunch of one-off cards being brought to the MSO and requested to be added to the system are staggering. Not to mention the problems in creating a whole new internal infrastructure for Customer Service to get the information from the customer, then routing it to people responsible for the controllers make the request of the vendor (Moto or Cisco) who then respond back to the controller admins, who have to then load the 1 or 2 cards manually, then send them off to be added to the billing system's backend for the appropriate corp so that billing knows where the card is how to route the hits and authorizations back to the card.

And all this doesn't even touch upon the other problems with security. (Which go beyond just the MSO's desire to make sure you only get what you pay for, but also into contracts with content providers and the promises the MSO must make to them regarding the security of their product.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507991 Mon, 19 May 2008 18:26:35 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507592 ak3883 : wbub reported it was going to be happening in late June timeframe, a different system each week or something. He said my system in Lower Bucks was happening around June 29th(or so, can't remember the exact date), a total rebuild of analog channels, re-lining up physical channel locations to optimize for future services like more HD, DOCSIS3.0, etc. I'm assuming this was what he was referring to. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507592 Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:00 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507568 JohnInSJ : I believe that money saving device is called "Dish-TV"

When the analogs go dark for me, Comcast loses a customer. Unless they make them clear QAM. We should check to see if hell freezes over as well...

I am ok with it either way, and I'm sure they won't miss my nearly $1000/year for expanded-digital+HD.
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said by neufuse

:

Wonder how well it will work though with the your provide the encryption scheme boxes (HDC boxes?) when the tech changes so fast anymore.. heck now everyones scared about SDV with things like tivo... and the big add on boxes they will need (well not that big, but you have to get them from the cable co.. and probably rent them too)

Yes you still have to rent cable-cards. It is cheaper than the box cost per month. Probably (if not already) there will be cable cards sold at stores, maybe customers will be able to bring it to a provider to program it, but maybe I am getting too ahead of technology. But anything to save money would be nice for everyone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507346 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:24:28 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507328 neufuse : Wonder how well it will work though with the your provide the encryption scheme boxes (HDC boxes?) when the tech changes so fast anymore.. heck now everyones scared about SDV with things like tivo... and the big add on boxes they will need (well not that big, but you have to get them from the cable co.. and probably rent them too)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507328 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:22:03 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507323 BSD24 : An example of a Host-Box that Motorola makes is the DCH3416 and DCH6412. DCT is Digital Cable Terminal, and DCH is Digital Cable Host. So if your model Motorola box is a "DCH" then you will find a cablecard slot in the back that has a card already in it.
Currently they should be secured - although a few customers have called in saying they removed it and couldn't understand why they lost all their channels! LOL - but this happens, people sometimes remove things for no reason then they call cause the device/service doesn't work. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507323 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:21:51 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507295 BSD24 :

said by pgoelz

I know customers made a big stink when Comcast moved a few analogs in our area recently. It's because of this big stink and negative press from local news and TV reporters that they are going to be very careful in doing the next moves. Will it happen any time soon? Most likely not, as they want to limit the amount of negative press that they get.

It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital.

That advantage is tempered by the added cost of a STB for every TV. In my case with five TVs, that adds up to a negative, not a positive.

Paul

pgoelz - Just so you know changes are going to be continuing to happen. The FCC also said that people will be able to buy Cable Boxes soon. You will eventually be able to buy these cable boxes from retailers like Best Buy, Circuit City as well as the cable companies will eventually allow you to purchase the equipment from them. Similar to the reason people are allowed to buy their own cable-modems.
Tivo already has a cable-box type being sold that requires cable cards. This is how cable-boxes will be sold and why the new cable boxes are called Host-Boxes. The box will have 1-2 slots for cablecards to be used. This way when people buy the cable-box and they move to an area outside of their present cable provider (like a Comcast customer moving to a town that has Cox or Charter) to another provider, they can return the cable cards to Comcast and get new ones to the new cable provider put them in the box and it would work on that new system.

Be patient, and as time goes on many changes will be happening to cable customers across the country. Some people may change things quicker then others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507295 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:18:01 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507150 cypherstream :

said by neufuse

:

Expanded basic cable with a box still? wow... we haven't had a box for channels over 20 something for almost 20yrs now here

Some area's, to help deture theft, have scrambled expanded basic. Center City Philly, and Baltimore are two area's that I can think of. In these markets, Bandwidth reclamation should be rather easy. Customers are already used to having a box connected to their TV. It's just a matter of switching the analog box for a digital box.

If everythings scrambled, a thief connecting themselves to an open tap port, or illegally splitting into someone else's line, has much less to steal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507150 Mon, 19 May 2008 15:50:50 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507117 neufuse : Expanded basic cable with a box still? wow... we haven't had a box for channels over 20 something for almost 20yrs now here]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20507117 Mon, 19 May 2008 15:44:36 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506934 BSD24 :

said by neufuse

:

All our TV's are DTV (aka has QAM tuners and ATSC tuners) but all the analogs that comcast has moved to digital are encrypted which does not play well with a TV that has no built in decrypting scheme (aka cablecard)

Some locations require cable boxes for certain technical reasons. That is the situation for the Metro-Boston region as well, they still require cable boxes for expanded basic. So you are not the only one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506934 Mon, 19 May 2008 15:12:30 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506911 neufuse : All our TV's are DTV (aka has QAM tuners and ATSC tuners) but all the analogs that comcast has moved to digital are encrypted which does not play well with a TV that has no built in decrypting scheme (aka cablecard)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506911 Mon, 19 May 2008 15:06:05 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506704 pgoelz :

That advantage is tempered by the added cost of a STB for every TV. In my case with five TVs, that adds up to a negative, not a positive.

Paul]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506704 Mon, 19 May 2008 14:32:42 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506671 BSD24 : If anyone needs a phone number for their Manufacturer, please post and I will get the number for you as soon as I have the chance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506671 Mon, 19 May 2008 14:26:11 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506659 BSD24 :

said by neufuse

:

Unless has a built in DTV tuner? huh? You mean QAM / ATSC tuner or what? Because every channel comcast has moved to digital here is ENCRYPTED! which is BS when you had it unencrypted in analog FOREVER!

A tv that has a Built-In Digital TV (AKA DTV) tuner it says so when you go to buy one. It usually is also symbolized on the TV front panel by saying "Digital Tuner Built-In" or "DTV Ready", etc.... If you still can't tell if your TV is "DTV Ready" or "DTV Built-In", get the model number from the back of the TV and call the manufacturer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506659 Mon, 19 May 2008 14:24:30 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506643 BSD24 : Yea guys - it only will have your zip in the system if your area has a plan for when they will be doing the migration. If you have Comcast and your zip doesn't work, that means that most likely your migration isn't scheduled yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20506643 Mon, 19 May 2008 14:21:04 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20505625 neufuse : Unless has a built in DTV tuner? huh? You mean QAM / ATSC tuner or what? Because every channel comcast has moved to digital here is ENCRYPTED! which is BS when you had it unencrypted in analog FOREVER!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20505625 Mon, 19 May 2008 10:32:35 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20505530 JeepMatt : Rumors were of something along this line occurring for Philly Metro as well - but info has been pretty tight lipped.

Any peeps out there with any info, please share.
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said by sansri88

:

Alright thanks. I've shot out an email to our region's marketing department to find out more.

Do you still waste your time with NJ II Marketing Depto? I have ZERO faith or trust on them.
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And who would think Eli would outplay Brady...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20505340 Mon, 19 May 2008 09:28:07 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20505282 Da Man : That would make to much sense. We wouldn't need those "expensive" boxes that they "lose" money on if they did.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20505282 Mon, 19 May 2008 09:14:38 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20504534 JohnInSJ : so, those are going to be clear qam, right? yeah, sure
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»www.comcastdigitalworld.com/index.php
type in your zip and you'll see if/when in the next 3 months comcast will be making changes in your lineup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503896 Sun, 18 May 2008 22:18:55 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503389 patspub : BSD24-Do you know when this will happen for Philly?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503389 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:18:25 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503359 mikedz4 : what division is western pa, ohio and west virginia under?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503359 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:12:20 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503357 patspub : I think this is Great!!! Has anyone put in a zip code that works?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503357 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:12:13 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503319 BSD24 :

said by cypherstream

:

I know customers made a big stink when Comcast moved a few analogs in our area recently. It's because of this big stink and negative press from local news and TV reporters that they are going to be very careful in doing the next moves. Will it happen any time soon? Most likely not, as they want to limit the amount of negative press that they get.

It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital.

cypherstream - I agree. As I have said before, analog channels take up alot of space. Just think of the possibilities. 12 Digital Channels can replace every 1 Analog Channel. Besides making digital channels, it frees up space and bandwidth for other things like more HD, more Video On Demand, better quality enhancements etc.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503319 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:02:05 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503287 cypherstream : I know customers made a big stink when Comcast moved a few analogs in our area recently. It's because of this big stink and negative press from local news and TV reporters that they are going to be very careful in doing the next moves. Will it happen any time soon? Most likely not, as they want to limit the amount of negative press that they get.

It sucks, because these customers don't understand the benefits of going digital.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503287 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:56:08 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503258 Georgiaboy :

said by BSD24

:

Not sure, it is a new site but we are giving it out. The site just opened on 5/15/08 so it might not be fully functional, who knows. Or maybe no changes are happening in the next 2-3 months for your area, I don't know though.

I bet it is likely the division/region your in might not have gone into the new site yet.

We will be using the follows ways of contacting customers:

-30 Day Legal Notification Bill Insert
To view copies of the letters by town please use the customer web site (www.comcastdigitalworld.com ) and simply by entering the customers Zip Code, this will allow you to view both the letter the customer received AND the specific list of channels impacted in their town.

-Bill Message (“Please read the important notice regarding changes your Comcast Cable service located within this bill. For more information or to inquire about related Comcast Digital Cable discount offers, please call 1-800-COMCAST or visit www.comcastdigitalworld.com”)

And other means, but the 30day notice is required by law(subject to state regulations, which could vary by state).

I would think that some of the links don't work because many areas have no plans to migrate analogs "very" soon. And my market, in particular, sucks at even notifying people of these things. One particular digital to analog migration slew in Savannah was a seemingly random decision that caught customers by surprise because there was absolutely no advanced notification. I would have to guess that my market probably won't even be using the site if it can't even notify through billing statements.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503258 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:49:16 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503165 sansri88 : Alright thanks. I've shot out an email to our region's marketing department to find out more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503165 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:28:53 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503079 BSD24 :

said by pplchamp1

:

Comcast of Connecticut has already announced some analog migration, the thread can be found here:

»Comcast of Connecticut to move analogs to Digital in July

Yes Connecticut is part of my division - Northern Central. Our Division is taking part in the coming up migration very soon. See below:

HD Service Level Requirements (Trad. Comcast only)
7/14/08 â€“ 7/16/08

Channel Migrations â€“

SEMA (South-East MA Region)
7/15/08

Metro (Boston)& Traditional Comcast CT West
7/16/08

NNER (Northern NE Region)
7/17/08

Former Adelphia CT & Carmel
8/5/08

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503079 Sun, 18 May 2008 19:02:11 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503049 pplchamp1 : Comcast of Connecticut has already announced some analog migration, the thread can be found here:

»Comcast of Connecticut to move analogs to Digital in July
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I bet it is likely the division/region your in might not have gone into the new site yet.

We will be using the follows ways of contacting customers:

-30 Day Legal Notification Bill Insert
To view copies of the letters by town please use the customer web site (www.comcastdigitalworld.com ) and simply by entering the customers Zip Code, this will allow you to view both the letter the customer received AND the specific list of channels impacted in their town.

-Bill Message (“Please read the important notice regarding changes your Comcast Cable service located within this bill. For more information or to inquire about related Comcast Digital Cable discount offers, please call 1-800-COMCAST or visit www.comcastdigitalworld.com”)

And other means, but the 30day notice is required by law(subject to state regulations, which could vary by state).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20503001 Sun, 18 May 2008 18:41:51 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502851 sansri88 : Yep that's what I've heard already. One thing that's bothering me is on my system they haven't done anything in the past 7+ months when it comes to removing analog channels, and we haven't gotten any notice as to when anything new will come. We've fallen behind almost all comparable systems, and FiOS is coming in my township early next year.

And any reason why my zip doesn't work? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502851 Sun, 18 May 2008 18:07:00 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502840 BSD24 :

said by sansri88

:

Thanks for clarifying things.

Just a question, how come my zip code isn't found? 08830.

Edit: Here's a good question in the Q&A:

Q: Does this have anything to do with the Digital Broadcast Transition?
A: No, and it´s important to understand the difference between this change and the Digital Broadcast Transition. These are two unrelated events. This change to your service is driven by a desire to strike an appropriate balance between the interests of our digital cable customers and our remaining analog customers. The federally mandated Digital Broadcast Transition in February 2009 impacts over-the-air broadcasters, but not cable companies. Every television connected to Comcast cable will continue to work after this change to the way broadcasters transmit their signals. Because we´ve pledged to continue serving both analog and digital customers, only those using an antenna to receive over-the-air signals will be impacted.

sansri88 - yes, I want to make sure people understand, because Analog Migrations are coming up. Many currently analog stations will be switched to digital only. Only the "Broadcasted Stations" like ABC, NBC, PBS, etc. will continue to be sent to customers using analog. The rest of the channels will be moved into digital.

Eventually TV's without a DTV Tuner and without a Digital Cable Box (once the migration is completed - all channels except your local channels) the TV will only get the local channels for your area. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502840 Sun, 18 May 2008 18:03:05 EDT Re: Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502807 sansri88 : Thanks for clarifying things.

Just a question, how come my zip code isn't found? 08830.

Edit: Here's a good question in the Q&A:

Q: Does this have anything to do with the Digital Broadcast Transition?
A: No, and it´s important to understand the difference between this change and the Digital Broadcast Transition. These are two unrelated events. This change to your service is driven by a desire to strike an appropriate balance between the interests of our digital cable customers and our remaining analog customers. The federally mandated Digital Broadcast Transition in February 2009 impacts over-the-air broadcasters, but not cable companies. Every television connected to Comcast cable will continue to work after this change to the way broadcasters transmit their signals. Because we´ve pledged to continue serving both analog and digital customers, only those using an antenna to receive over-the-air signals will be impacted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502807 Sun, 18 May 2008 17:56:22 EDT Comcast Analog Migration http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502779 BSD24 : I thought I would open up this topic to help those who will/may be confused between DTV (Digital Transition) and Analog Migration...

An Analog Migration is – a decision by Comcast to stop sending customers an Analog signal of a channel, and only send a Digital signal.

An Analog Migration is NOT – the Digital Broadcast Transition which requires broadcast channels such as ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, CW etc. to ONLY broadcast in Digital by February 2009.

Comcast will be (if you haven't gotten one already) mailing letters out with bills explaining some of the changes that will be taking place. Basicly, just remember "broadcast stations" are your local news stations like ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and PBS. These channels Comcast will continue to transmit in Analog. All the other channels (ex. TVLAND, Animal Planet, Disney, Nickelodeon,etc..) that may currently still be analog will be gradually moved over to digital. Those channels you will need a Digital Cable box to receive unless your TV set already has a built-in Digital TV (DTV) tuner in it.

Visit the following link for more information -
»www.comcastdigitalworld.com/

Mod Note: See also --> »More Analog to Encrypted Digital transitions]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20502779 Sun, 18 May 2008 17:50:23 EDT