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Cpudan80

join:2007-07-26
Virginia Beach, VA
·Verizon FIOS

[southeast] What to expect on install day?

Hey everyone:

I've just ordered FiOS TV/Phone/Net (15/2) for my house (switching from Cox in Southeast VA).

Couple of questions about the installation:

1: How long is the electrical cable on the power backup unit? I've got a good place for the thing to go -- but sometimes the electrical outlet nearby (1' away) goes on the fritz. There is another (reliable) outlet about 8' away (in the ceiling) is that too far away?

2: I've already got a linksys router setup in the house (with custom firmware and such). I've seen those free routers they give out -- they're OK, but not wonderful... So, will I be able to use my existing router? Ex. Will the tech drop a CAT5 directly to where my router is?

3: On the FiOS site it says the techs don't drop wires through the walls and what not -- but then how do they hook things up? I mean, if they have to drop a CAT5 wire to give me the net -- will they at least do that?

Thanks for the advice -- I'm looking forward to switching to FiOS!


Robert_in_MD

@verizon.net

Each tech is different but this is how my install (5/9/08) went.

1) 8' might work. My cord is bundled up but it looks like it might reach.

2&3) I pre-ran a Cat 5 line from the area where the ONT was going to the office. Without it, they would have used coax from the ONT to the router (which I already had since I had a cable modem). And the coax doesn't have to go directly from the ONT to the router - it can have splits. You need the ActionTec they give you as the set top boxes have to talk to the internet for the guide and video on demand.

I like my D-link router and this is what I did so I could use their ActionTec AND my D-Link.

»Re: How-to: make ActionTec MI424-WR a network bridge


AnonTechHere

@verizon.net

reply to Cpudan80
1. 8' is fine....if power cord from ONT is to short ....he/she will use a surge strip to make-up the diff...
2. just ask him to enable the ONT as ehternet, not coax....look at prev. post on this board about putting your linksys behind the AT....need the AT for VOD, widgets, and guide...
3. fishing walls depends on the tech..most of the time it is ODI out,down,and in....(out the wall, down the side of the house and in the basement)


More Fiber
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join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
·Bay Area Internet ..

said by AnonTechHere :

2. just ask him to enable the ONT as ethernet, not coax....look at prev. post on this board about putting your linksys behind the AT....need the AT for VOD, widgets, and guide...
Putting his router behind the Actiontec is certainly the easiest solution. The OP may or may not care about being double NAT'ed behind the Actiontec. However, if he is a torrent user he will still be impacted by the small NAT table in the Actiontec.

Also, if he places his router behind the Actiontec, as you suggest, it doesn't matter if the Actiontec WAN connection is coax or cat5, therefore no reason for the install tech to run cat5 as you suggest.


More Fiber
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May 18th, @11:15PM

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said by Cpudan80 See Profile :

2: I've already got a linksys router setup in the house (with custom firmware and such). I've seen those free routers they give out -- they're OK, but not wonderful... So, will I be able to use my existing router? Ex. Will the tech drop a CAT5 directly to where my router is?
VZ's standard install is to run coax to the Actiontec router. Some techs will run cat5 from the ONT to the Actiontec if you request it. If you can run it ahead of time, you will save him additional work. If he installs cat5, he will connect the Actiontec as the primary router and suggest you connect your router behind the Actiontec. After he leaves, you can connect your router to the cat5 from the ONT and place the Actiontec behind your router.
You will need to release the DHCP address of the Actiontec before disconnecting it. Instructions are in the forum FAQ.


If the tech connects the Actiontec tech via coax, then you have the following options:
Don't confuse the LAN side MOCA connection for the STBs with the WAN connection to the ONT. Both use the same "F" connector on the Actiontec. With a coax WAN connection, the ethernet WAN jack will be empty and the main status page of the Actiontec will show Broadband Status: COAX CONNECTED.

1) Leave the Actiontec on coax and connect your router behind the Actiontec on a different subnet. The result is that devices connected to your router will be double NAT'ed, but this the easiest approach.

2) As mentioned above, leave the Actiontec on coax, connect your router behind the Actiontec, turning the Actiontec into a bridge using the link already provided: »How-to: make ActionTec MI424-WR a network bridge
Here's a diagram of the cabling for this approach:
»Re: Make your actiontec a bridge with VOD working with REV D

3) Run your own cat5 to the ONT, replace the Actiontec with your router, then place the Actiontec behind your router to provide a MOCA bridge for the STBs. Instructions can be found here:
»Re: Smoothwall

JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
reply to Cpudan80
For what it's worth, my power cable is probably 25 feet long. There's no outlet anywhere near my ONT, so they ran the power cable from the back of the house (where the ONT is), though my crawlspace, to the front of the house, where the outlet is.

starrin

join:2005-05-29
Virginia Beach, VA

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said by Cpudan80 See Profile :

Hey everyone:

I've just ordered FiOS TV/Phone/Net (15/2) for my house (switching from Cox in Southeast VA).

Couple of questions about the installation:
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