KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
 ·Cox HSI
 ·AT&T Southwest
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Re: If only 5% generate 60% of the total traffic...
said by Ex_Bell_Tech  :Bell Says that your internet line is dedicated and not shared. So how 5% users could generate 60% of the traffic????? I have one better for you: Bell is throttling THIRD party ISP's WHO PAY BELL FOR THE BANDWIDTH. So even if 5% generates 60% of the traffic... BELL IS BEING PAID FOR IT.... so if they did have a problem (they don't) they should simply build more capacity because they are making money off of all of it!
Imagine if someone walked into your store and wanted to buy 60% of your merchandise. Would you be like "NO.... we need to keep it in case some other people come in and want to buy it... Sale denied!"
OR... Would you order more merchandise to cover the purchase?
'Nuff said methinks.
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Ex_Bell_Tech
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Trois-Rivieres, QC
·Cogeco Cable
| said by KrK :said by Ex_Bell_Tech :Bell Says that your internet line is dedicated and not shared. So how 5% users could generate 60% of the traffic????? I have one better for you: Bell is throttling THIRD party ISP's WHO PAY BELL FOR THE BANDWIDTH. So even if 5% generates 60% of the traffic... BELL IS BEING PAID FOR IT.... so if they did have a problem (they don't) they should simply build more capacity because they are making money off of all of it! Imagine if someone walked into your store and wanted to buy 60% of your merchandise. Would you be like "NO.... we need to keep it in case some other people come in and want to buy it... Sale denied!" OR... Would you order more merchandise to cover the purchase? 'Nuff said methinks. Lol if a customer comes to my store to buy 60% of my stuff right away, I hink I'll give him a little extra lol.
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mordin
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said by KrK :Imagine if someone walked into your store and wanted to buy 60% of your merchandise. Would you be like "NO.... we need to keep it in case some other people come in and want to buy it... Sale denied!" Your scenario doesn't fit since a store is trying to 'sell' it's merchandise. In other words, they don't care who buys it as long as it's sold. By the way stores sometimes do put limits on sales - ever see the line 'limit X per customer'? Bell is selling a service and if some people are causing problems for others to use the service then something needs to be done. It's not as easy as flipping a switch and magically there's loads of bandwidth. In a lot of cases the network can't handle the bandwidth and needs to up upgraded.
Again these upgrades can't be done over night.
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KrK
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| said by mordin :Your scenario doesn't fit since a store is trying to 'sell' it's merchandise. It should fit because Bell should be trying to sell Bandwidth to the third parties. If they aren't, well, "They're doing it wrong" as the saying goes....By the way stores sometimes do put limits on sales - ever see the line 'limit X per customer'? Completely different reason.... That's because they are using the item in question as a "loss leader" IE often selling it at cost or below as an advertising point to bring people into the store. They slap the limit on to stop a rival or competitor from coming in any buying up all the items for below cost, causing them to lose money and then have no stock for the other customers who get angry. ALSO there's another main reason. Often in retail the manufacturer will rebate back to the store a certain amount of cash for units sold during a sale. The manufacturer or supplier will place the limit per person requirement on the rebate offer to prevent again one of their other customers from coming in and buying it all up cheaper from that store then they would have had to pay to get it from the distributor.
This type of thing is VERY common on cigarettes, Beer, Soda, etc
Bell is selling a service Maybe they are selling a service to their end users... but to the third parties and commercial users they are selling a commodity pure and simple and charge by usage, not fixed rate via connection like as in the end user. So that argument is dismissed.
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mordin
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| said by KrK :It should fit because Bell should be trying to sell Bandwidth to the third parties. If they aren't, well, "They're doing it wrong" as the saying goes.... No because once a store sells an item that item it is gone & no longer available to anyone else. With Bell, while you use your connection others can use their connection.
Froggy, caps and congestion are 2 different things. Think of caps as how much you can get while congestion is related to how fast you can get it.
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