Re: rural option in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20510866 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:06:27 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:06:27 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20531052 PDXPLT :
said by Dogfather See Profile :

You have no "RIGHT" to broadband.
You have the right to have broadband available. According to the 1996 Telecommunications Act, it is U.S. policy that affordable broadband will be made available to all Americans.

We're 12 years into it, and that policy has not been fulfilled. Yet. It may never be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20531052 Fri, 23 May 2008 19:30:05 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20519769 random_texan :
said by KrK See Profile :

said by Dogfather See Profile :

You have no "RIGHT" to broadband.
Which means his statement is still correct as in: "We have just as much right to broadband as the next guy..."

Next guy has zero rights to it too!
That's kinda why I said that. I don't have any illusion that I'm SUPPOSED to be provided broadband. I just didn't like the statement that people in rural areas such as myself are the reason these changes were happening.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20519769 Wed, 21 May 2008 19:24:26 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513356 phattieg :
said by ydoucare See Profile :

Large cities are the cause for this. They don't care about 2 or 3 people hogging a tower out in the boondocks. However, i'm sure they do care about 15+ people eating up a tower in a city such as Chicago, which is where they need to control bandwidth, as most of those towers only have 2 T1's worth of backhaul at most. There are plenty of people who use this as both their home and mobile connection in urban areas, my boss being one. Either case, 5 GB is ridiculous, they're just becoming followers. At least be a little different and try 10? Now it's REALLY becoming a ripoff at 59.99/month (or 61+ after tax)

Wait, what makes you think they only have a few T1's? I only ask because most of the ones I have seen either have a microwave repeater on them for backhaul, or are hooked up to the PSTN directly at the tower via a CO/Switch, or remote switch, and those are fed by fiber in most cases, or again by microwave... What phone company were you talking about? I want to know so I don't make the mistake of buying their service one day...
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by nnaarrnn See Profile :

I know what you mean. We use sprint EVDO cards with Kyocera routers as backup systems for a couple of our clients who have trouble with their T-1s staying up during heavy rain. It makes a great way for the credit card machines to still work, but there's a lot of traffic being passed for some people.
Credit card machines? Then I assume your clients are businesses. Then they should get a business account with an SLA and the 5 GB limit should not be a problem.
Credit card machines hardly need broadband. They work fine on 300bps dialup links. Just get an n-way line-sharing device and a POTS line or two. No need for uselss SLAs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20513325 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:49:28 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512491 shoan : when i checked this out in the store the salesman told me that sprint has no problem with it being used as a home dedicated connection. They market it as a dsl/cable alternative in the local sprint store. So this is not just a rural killed it thing. But thank god for a good wisp opening up in our area or we would have had nothing now that sprint is going this route.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512491 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:39:55 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512238 Dogfather : That is true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512238 Tue, 20 May 2008 14:02:24 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512095 KrK :
said by Dogfather See Profile :

You have no "RIGHT" to broadband.
Which means his statement is still correct as in: "We have just as much right to broadband as the next guy..."

Next guy has zero rights to it too!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20512095 Tue, 20 May 2008 13:37:30 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511862 patcat88 : There is no guarentee of a SL with any provider. SLAs are just a myth, you just get that month's charge free. They don't bring out people at 1 AM in the morning, and they don't reimburse you for lost wages/profits.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511862 Tue, 20 May 2008 12:55:35 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511681 Dogfather : You have no "RIGHT" to broadband.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511681 Tue, 20 May 2008 12:23:51 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511559 TKJunkMail :
said by random_texan See Profile :

Why bash the 'rural folks'? We have just as much right to have broadband as the next guy.
Of course you do. But it is going to cost more. Part of the charm of living in rural areas. But other costs will be lower. All part of the tradeoff of choosing where you live.
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We're not all as privileged as you are in the cities. Hell, many city folks don't have that many options either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511548 Tue, 20 May 2008 11:58:12 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511487 ydoucare : Large cities are the cause for this. They don't care about 2 or 3 people hogging a tower out in the boondocks. However, i'm sure they do care about 15+ people eating up a tower in a city such as Chicago, which is where they need to control bandwidth, as most of those towers only have 2 T1's worth of backhaul at most. There are plenty of people who use this as both their home and mobile connection in urban areas, my boss being one. Either case, 5 GB is ridiculous, they're just becoming followers. At least be a little different and try 10? Now it's REALLY becoming a ripoff at 59.99/month (or 61+ after tax).

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said by nnaarrnn See Profile :

no such thing as an SLA with any wireless setup.
Not true, I had one with Covad Wireless and Sprint at least used to offer an SLA for the CDMA service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511441 Tue, 20 May 2008 11:36:54 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511398 yahtzee :
said by nnaarrnn See Profile :

no such thing as an SLA with any wireless setup.
Check your facts.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511398 Tue, 20 May 2008 11:29:42 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511351 ggultra2764 : Well, so much for considering Sprint as an option for getting reasonable Internet service on the same level as cable and DSL. Us rural folk have to fork up more money for Internet speeds not on par with cable and DSL plus unreasonable monthly caps. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511351 Tue, 20 May 2008 11:20:30 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511283 ninjatutle : The service is called Sprint Mobile Broadband Connection. Not Sprint Rural Home Broadband Connection.

These rural folks using this as a home connection probably had a hand in killing this off. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511283 Tue, 20 May 2008 11:09:30 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511185 nnaarrnn : no such thing as an SLA with any wireless setup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511185 Tue, 20 May 2008 10:51:55 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511183 nnaarrnn : this is a point of sale system (indoor go kart track) with about 25 points of sale. it HAS to be over IP, and weekends, 20+ have to work. there is a T-1 line (2 actually) but they fail during heavy rain. The lines for them run through the sewer, and even though we've had verizon out to replace the lines, they still go out in bad storms. The movie theater right beside their building looses connectivity too. My company has 17 cell lines with sprint, and we added the EVDO card/router to our account, and resell it to the go kart track as backup for the Point of Sale system to contact whomever it contacts in Florida to verifiy the charges.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20511183 Tue, 20 May 2008 10:51:27 EDT Re: rural option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20510886 pnh102 :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

So $2000 a month is justified?
You can get a credit card machine that works with a landline or a traditional cell phone.
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said by nnaarrnn See Profile :

I know what you mean. We use sprint EVDO cards with Kyocera routers as backup systems for a couple of our clients who have trouble with their T-1s staying up during heavy rain. It makes a great way for the credit card machines to still work, but there's a lot of traffic being passed for some people.
Credit card machines? Then I assume your clients are businesses. Then they should get a business account with an SLA and the 5 GB limit should not be a problem.
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