Dogfather
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Re: Bingo.
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satellite68
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| said by Dogfather  :Yeah, because we know how efficient and successful government programs are. Ironic statement, considering your avatar.  |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | A fat lazy government worker serving only to Provoke and Annoy? More iconic of government, not ironic. |
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Matt
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said by Dogfather :Yeah, because we know how efficient and successful government programs are. Like the interstate highway system? Or the national power grid? I'd even go so far as to say the POTS system since the government stepped in a regulated the level of service. |
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en102
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Especially here in So-Cal.
This state is highly taxed, and the money ends up going nowhere.
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EPS
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Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well...
And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there. |
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kapil
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| said by EPS :Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well... And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there. All of that because "small government" morons for the last 30 years haven't invested in infrastructure.
Foresight and good governance got us started, just like the founding fathers gave us the constitution as a framework for a democracy....it's our job to continue on that path.
So build a national highway system...and 50 years later when it needs maintenance and replacement, deny the funding and point to it as an example of how bad government programs are? I've never understood how the "no taxes" crowd sells that as a logical argument to anyone with post-secondary education.
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said by Matt :said by Dogfather :Yeah, because we know how efficient and successful government programs are. Like the interstate highway system? Or the national power grid? I'd even go so far as to say the POTS system since the government stepped in a regulated the level of service. Yeah, the Federal highways are ashambles and clogged shut with traffic despite taxpayers paying COUNTLESS billions in road taxes and fees that just end up being stolen for bullcrap welfare programs. The power grids? At least out here they were originally built by the power companies and are now managed by CalISO and other gov't mandated ISOs that give us our wonderful rolling blackouts. POTS? Paid for by the telcos and is overpriced thanks in no small part to the wonderful taxes and fees subs are forced to pay on it. |
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| said by Dogfather :said by Matt :said by Dogfather :Yeah, because we know how efficient and successful government programs are. Like the interstate highway system? Or the national power grid? I'd even go so far as to say the POTS system since the government stepped in a regulated the level of service. Yeah, the Federal highways are ashambles and clogged shut with traffic despite taxpayers paying COUNTLESS billions in road taxes and fees that just end up being stolen for bullcrap welfare programs. The power grids? At least out here they were originally built by the power companies and are now managed by CalISO and other gov't mandated ISOs that give us our wonderful rolling blackouts. POTS? Paid for by the telcos and is overpriced thanks in no small part to the wonderful taxes and fees subs are forced to pay on it. You described California. Move.
Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. |
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kapil
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said by Dogfather :A fat lazy government worker serving only to Provoke and Annoy? More iconic of government, not ironic. I'd be inclined to say that the proverbial lazy government worker is more a cross section and symbol of American society at large, which has become too fat and lazy for its own good rather than, oh you know, being iconic of Government.
It's high time we heed the wake-up call and finally address big national problems we've been sweeping under the rugs and blaming on darkies and immigrants for entirely too long.
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They aren't denied funding for roads. Taxpayers are paying billions and billions in road taxes, fees and excise taxes. But the same corrupt gov't raids those funds to pad their other failed programs.
And damn straight now more taxes, not until they show some responsibility with the hundreds of billions they already get. They don't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem. Don't come crying about revenue when they give hundreds of billions to supercorps like ADM for crops that are already reaping them record profits or for tax breaks for oil companies also reaping record profits or for school systems where less than .50 of every dollar actually makes it to a classroom. |
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said by Matt :You described California. Move. Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. Wait till the illegals show up by the millions like they did here and clog your roads, ruin your schools and close your hospitals.
Nothing does quite so well for a society than to import poverty by the unchecked millions. |
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kapil
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There is no "they". It's US! It's our country and our government. When we decide it's time to stop being lazy and participate in government is when this will all turn around.
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4 edits | Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's Mexico and China's gov't and anyone else Washington wants to sell us out to. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar.
And with both Obama and McCain being free-traders and pro-amnesty nothing is going to change for the American worker except fewer good jobs, worsening schools and higher taxes. |
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| said by Dogfather :Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar. Not everything is someone else's fault. Grow up and take responsibility. It's precisely this I-didn't-do-it attitude that has allowed these incompetent dimwits to become in charge and sell your country off in pieces to Exxon and Halliburton.
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| said by kapil :said by Dogfather :Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar. Not everything is someone else's fault. Grow up and take responsibility. It's precisely this I-didn't-do-it attitude that has allowed these incompetent dimwits to become in charge and sell your country off in pieces to Exxon and Halliburton. And it isn't YOUR country too? So what is YOUR country?
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EPS
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The Big Dig (or to use its legal name, Central Artery/Tunnel) is hardly an example of government projects not getting enough funds... $15 billion not enough for you? |
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said by Dogfather :said by Matt :You described California. Move. Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. Wait till the illegals show up by the millions like they did here and clog your roads, ruin your schools and close your hospitals. Nothing does quiet so well for a society than to import poverty by the unchecked millions. said by Dogfather :said by Matt :You described California. Move. Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. Wait till the illegals show up by the millions like they did here and clog your roads, ruin your schools and close your hospitals. Nothing does quiet so well for a society than to import poverty by the unchecked millions. So there was no traffic, school weren't overcrowded and hospitals were in top shape in Cali until the illegals showed up? Maybe you exagerating just a tad?
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Short of armed revolution, there is NOTHING to be done.
Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, both are equally corrupt and inept. |
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said by GOLFnSUN :And it isn't YOUR country too? So what is YOUR country? Relax TK... inevitably there may come a time when the above poster is proud of his country for the very first time. 
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