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EPS4

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
reply to Matt3

Re: Bingo.

Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well...

And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

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said by EPS4:

Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well...

And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there.
All of that because "small government" morons for the last 30 years haven't invested in infrastructure.

Foresight and good governance got us started, just like the founding fathers gave us the constitution as a framework for a democracy....it's our job to continue on that path.

So build a national highway system...and 50 years later when it needs maintenance and replacement, deny the funding and point to it as an example of how bad government programs are? I've never understood how the "no taxes" crowd sells that as a logical argument to anyone with post-secondary education.
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA

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They aren't denied funding for roads. Taxpayers are paying billions and billions in road taxes, fees and excise taxes. But the same corrupt gov't raids those funds to pad their other failed programs.

And damn straight now more taxes, not until they show some responsibility with the hundreds of billions they already get. They don't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem. Don't come crying about revenue when they give hundreds of billions to supercorps like ADM for crops that are already reaping them record profits or for tax breaks for oil companies also reaping record profits or for school systems where less than .50 of every dollar actually makes it to a classroom.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
There is no "they". It's US! It's our country and our government. When we decide it's time to stop being lazy and participate in government is when this will all turn around.
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's Mexico and China's gov't and anyone else Washington wants to sell us out to. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar.

And with both Obama and McCain being free-traders and pro-amnesty nothing is going to change for the American worker except fewer good jobs, worsening schools and higher taxes.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

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said by Dogfather:

Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar.
Not everything is someone else's fault. Grow up and take responsibility. It's precisely this I-didn't-do-it attitude that has allowed these incompetent dimwits to become in charge and sell your country off in pieces to Exxon and Halliburton.
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FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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said by kapil:

said by Dogfather:

Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar.
Not everything is someone else's fault. Grow up and take responsibility. It's precisely this I-didn't-do-it attitude that has allowed these incompetent dimwits to become in charge and sell your country off in pieces to Exxon and Halliburton.
And it isn't YOUR country too? So what is YOUR country?
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EPS4

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
reply to kapil
The Big Dig (or to use its legal name, Central Artery/Tunnel) is hardly an example of government projects not getting enough funds... $15 billion not enough for you?


Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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reply to kapil
Short of armed revolution, there is NOTHING to be done.

Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, both are equally corrupt and inept.


pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

And it isn't YOUR country too? So what is YOUR country?
Relax TK... inevitably there may come a time when the above poster is proud of his country for the very first time.
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DaveDude
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reply to kapil
said by kapil:

said by EPS4:

Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well...

And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there.

All of that because "small government" morons for the last 30 years haven't invested in infrastructure.

I've never understood how the "no taxes" crowd sells that as a logical argument to anyone with post-secondary education.
What does the size of the government have to with maintance. There aren't even related. Plus most of the grid is private, purposefully so it will be invested in.

the "no taxes" crowd understands that the more the government gets the less it spends on the people. See SS, and medicare, 2 great examples of why the government should keep it hands out things. If you like taxes ,Sweden pays about 60% of there income to the government, i am sure its paradise.
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:

Short of armed revolution, there is NOTHING to be done.

Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, both are equally corrupt and inept.
Yeah. Everyone is out to get you...each man for himself. Get the guns!

Maybe you shouldn't vote after all.

Yes, things are pretty bad. But things were once very good. We can make them that way again...we just have to stop being selfish and work for the common good and for the good of the country. No armed revolution required...this isn't the 1800's.
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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It's not paranoia when it is true.

The gov't, at least here in California is absolutely gunning for the taxpayers. They're looking to raid even more highway funds, raise sales taxes to 9.25% (in LA county) and borrow from future lottery revenues. This despite already being one of the highest taxed states in the nation and 47th for business climate.

But with Obama, the rest of the nation will get a taste of Sacramento style gov't.

Things were good during the 90's when Congress controlled spending. But Republicans have become spend happy whores and the Democratic Congress has turned out to be no better.

Things can be good again, all we have to do is stop being selfish expecting other people and the gov't to pay our way.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

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reply to DaveDude
said by DaveDude:

See SS, and medicare, 2 great examples of why the government should keep it hands out things.
Actually, those are two of the better managed and efficient government programs with much less waste than would be expected of any program that size.

The problem with both programs is that, again, the "no taxes" idiots have refused to fund the progams at levels need to sustain them and keep them viable for future generations.

All while the 30 years of conservative government has raided the trust fund to make up for its inept policies and revenue shortfall.

Can we say burning the candle at both ends? You take the money that's already there and refuse to fund it as needed...and then point at it as an example of bad governance.


Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA
The no-taxes idiots have funded the gov't to RECORD revenues.

The raise-taxes idiots just waste it faster than it comes in.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to Dogfather
30 years of withholding funding for programs and priorities that desperately need it. It's only going to get worse. Either we fix the bridges now, or we build brand new ones when they collapse, while also setting legal claims from those who get hurt. Not to mention, look like fools in front of the entire world.
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:

The no-taxes idiots have funded the gov't to RECORD revenues.

The raise-taxes idiots just waste it faster than it comes in.
That's actually not true. From record surplus to record deficit and debt....on whose watch?
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA

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You say it's not true? »www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18595849/

Who wasted the money? Depends.

California = Democrats.

Federal = Republicans, and now Democrats...both love to waste money

Doesn't change the fact that both California and the Federal gov't are seeing record HIGH revenues.

They're just eating it up with record high spending.

Gov't doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem.


DaveDude
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reply to kapil
said by kapil:

said by DaveDude:

See SS, and medicare, 2 great examples of why the government should keep it hands out things.
Actually, those are two of the better managed and efficient government programs with much less waste than would be expected of any program that size.

The problem with both programs is that, again, the "no taxes" idiots have refused to fund the progams at levels need to sustain them and keep them viable for future generations.

All while the 30 years of conservative government has raided the trust fund to make up for its inept policies and revenue shortfall.

Can we say burning the candle at both ends? You take the money that's already there and refuse to fund it as needed...and then point at it as an example of bad governance. Do us all a favor...don't reproduce.
No... the government borrowed money from SS, and use it elsewhere, hence the "lock box". So the current Gen X, Y will be funding the largest amount of retired people ever. So the government never SAVED those funds, and used them for something else. Did you noticed what happened since Congress is now Liberal ruled, Gas prices rose, and house fallout. All because of liberal policy. Where the 30 yrs of conservative leadership is coming from i dont know. I guess there has never been a liberal in government.
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:

Gov't doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem.
The government has a WAR problem.
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
reply to kapil
The gov't (both Cali and the Fed) is bloated and corrupt and it's not wrong or selfish for taxpayers like me to protest having the gov't take even more for this broken system.

Fix the system BEFORE demanding taxpayers pay even more.


Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA
reply to kapil
said by kapil:

said by Dogfather:

Gov't doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem.
The government has a WAR problem.
Really? How much did Sacramento spend on the war?


DaveDude
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reply to kapil
said by kapil:

said by Dogfather:

Gov't doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem.
The government has a WAR problem.
The war cost less then alot of wasteful liberals programs. Look at Detroit, I guess the liberal dominated government there has lead to such prosperity.
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to DaveDude
said by DaveDude:

[Did you noticed what happened since Congress is now Liberal ruled, Gas prices rose, and house fallout. All because of liberal policy. Where the 30 yrs of conservative leadership is coming from i dont know. I guess there has never been a liberal in government.
LOL. Nice try. The gas prices are the result of not having a coherent energy policy through successive administrations...both Democratic and Republican. At least one of the parties *tries* to do something about it other than drilling more holes looking for oil.

The "house fallout" was due to a hands-off free-market-trumps-all style of governance practiced by the current President.

Had we regulated banks and industry instead of choking the regulatory authority vested in the various agencies we'd be much better off today.
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA

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No it's not.

Gas prices are result of green policies stopping domestic exploration and forcing us to rely on foreign sources of oil.

Domestic production is down 45% from the 1980's.

And while countries like France have built nuclear powerplants for plentiful clean-air energy Congress and every administration for the last 2 decades have sat on their hands bowing to the environmental wacko left.

And the housing problem is caused by people buying more house than they could afford as much as banks gambling by loaning them the money.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to DaveDude
said by DaveDude:

Look at Detroit, I guess the liberal dominated government there has lead to such prosperity.
No, Detroit's problem is rooted in our utter fascination with unfettered "free trade" and successive city administrations that have been utterly corrupt.

Not all problems fit the liberal-conservative mold. However, IMHO the conservatives don't know how to govern, but that doesn't mean the Democrats are blame-free. Plenty of blame to go around for all.
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Dogfather
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said by kapil:

said by DaveDude:

Look at Detroit, I guess the liberal dominated government there has lead to such prosperity.
No, Detroit's problem is rooted in our utter fascination with unfettered "free trade" and successive city administrations that have been utterly corrupt.

Best post of the day.

Free trade is NEVER fair trade. Bush free-trade policy has DECIMATED light manufacturing by selling us out to China.


DaveDude
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reply to kapil
said by kapil:

said by DaveDude:

[Did you noticed what happened since Congress is now Liberal ruled, Gas prices rose, and house fallout. All because of liberal policy. Where the 30 yrs of conservative leadership is coming from i dont know. I guess there has never been a liberal in government.
LOL. Nice try. The gas prices are the result of not having a coherent energy policy through successive administrations...both Democratic and Republican. At least one of the parties *tries* to do something about it other than drilling more holes looking for oil.

The "house fallout" was due to a hands-off free-market-trumps-all style of governance practiced by the current President.

Had we regulated banks and industry instead of choking the regulatory authority vested in the various agencies we'd be much better off today.
No the problem democrats saying we cant build new power plants, drill in anwar, etc etc. There against nuclear, coal, gas refinaries. There hasnt been a new refinary in 30 years. Because Greens protest.

The housing crisis is because banks HAD TO lend to people, there werent permitted to ask certain questions. Another liberal policy.

Liberals are against energy independence, and letting banks decide who is a good loan or not. Why would a bank waste its time with foreclosures it costs them money... duh...
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:

No it's not.

Gas prices are result of green policies stopping domestic exploration and forcing us to rely on foreign sources of oil.

Domestic production is down 45% from the 1980's.

And while countries like France have built nuclear powerplants for plentiful clean-air energy Congress and every administration for the last 2 decades have sat on their hands bowing to the environmental wacko left.

And the housing problem is caused by people buying more house than they could afford.
We're running out of oil. We can either replace oil with something more renewable or keep digging ourselves deeper...both literally and metaphorically. One party wants to keep digging and the other wants to invest in something that is a little less bloody.

Yes, many people bought homes they could not afford...but many more lenders prayed on those people. Again, plenty of blame to go around. Including some for our education system that can't seem to teach basic financial literacy to our youth.

There's a reason the Koreans, the Chinese and the Indians are stuffing our dollars in their collective pockets while we're in debt to our eyeballs.
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA
We aren't running out of oil. There is plenty to be gotten, the gov't is just stopping us from getting it.

The gulf of Mexico for example; while American companies are prohibited from exploration, Mexico and the Chinese are having a field day.

You have on the right an Administration who refused to utter the word conservation and alternative energy while the left refuses to allow more exploration as a bridge between here and the future.

Meanwhile gas will be $5/gal by the end of summer with that money going to terrorist states hell bent on killing us all.