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| Re: Bingo. Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well...
And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there. | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by EPS :Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well... And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there. All of that because "small government" morons for the last 30 years haven't invested in infrastructure.
Foresight and good governance got us started, just like the founding fathers gave us the constitution as a framework for a democracy....it's our job to continue on that path.
So build a national highway system...and 50 years later when it needs maintenance and replacement, deny the funding and point to it as an example of how bad government programs are? I've never understood how the "no taxes" crowd sells that as a logical argument to anyone with post-secondary education. -- »PropertyMaps.com - Real-time, map based, nationwide MLS property search! | |
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| Re: Bingo. There is no "they". It's US! It's our country and our government. When we decide it's time to stop being lazy and participate in government is when this will all turn around. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by Dogfather :Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar. Not everything is someone else's fault. Grow up and take responsibility. It's precisely this I-didn't-do-it attitude that has allowed these incompetent dimwits to become in charge and sell your country off in pieces to Exxon and Halliburton. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by kapil :said by Dogfather :Not my government. It's Exxon's gov't. It's gov't by the dollar and for the dollar. Not everything is someone else's fault. Grow up and take responsibility. It's precisely this I-didn't-do-it attitude that has allowed these incompetent dimwits to become in charge and sell your country off in pieces to Exxon and Halliburton. And it isn't YOUR country too? So what is YOUR country? -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by TKJunkMail :And it isn't YOUR country too? So what is YOUR country? Relax TK... inevitably there may come a time when the above poster is proud of his country for the very first time.  -- This isn't fair! I was only supposed to hate just ONE presidential candidate! | |
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Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, both are equally corrupt and inept. | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by Dogfather :Short of armed revolution, there is NOTHING to be done. Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, both are equally corrupt and inept. Yeah. Everyone is out to get you...each man for himself. Get the guns! 
Maybe you shouldn't vote after all.
Yes, things are pretty bad. But things were once very good. We can make them that way again...we just have to stop being selfish and work for the common good and for the good of the country. No armed revolution required...this isn't the 1800's. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| Re: Bingo. 30 years of withholding funding for programs and priorities that desperately need it. It's only going to get worse. Either we fix the bridges now, or we build brand new ones when they collapse, while also setting legal claims from those who get hurt. Not to mention, look like fools in front of the entire world. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| said by Dogfather :Short of armed revolution, there is NOTHING to be done. Whether it's Democrats or Republicans, both are equally corrupt and inept. Totally agree. The above could have been my words. Too bad we're in such a small minority.. The rest believe the fairytales that the Disney news networks provide (which the BBC regards as "Entertainment news").
Real fact is, we're on the cusp of a major catastrophe. The banks were forced to lend money to those ineligable for such loans, the results of which is now coming to public view, the dollar is defrauded by the Fed, international markts are considering reducing the US's AAA credit rating to sub-prime, which means we may stop being the center of the world market, and also means import prices go up, while jobs leave the country.
The prison industry is the real winner here, because the government will impose more Draconian laws after the election and crime will soar as people start to go hungry. Oil is reported to be headed toward $200bbl in 2009, and there is no relief in site. We are headed to MAJOR economic crisis, the likes of which have not been seen for 50 years.
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| said by kapil :said by EPS :Ah, yes, the interstate highway system- how's about that Big Dig (Interstate 93 through downtown Boston)? And that maintainance is going so well... And the power grid, where one failure in northern New York can mean failure in the entire Northeast- a sparkling success there. All of that because "small government" morons for the last 30 years haven't invested in infrastructure. I've never understood how the "no taxes" crowd sells that as a logical argument to anyone with post-secondary education. What does the size of the government have to with maintance. There aren't even related. Plus most of the grid is private, purposefully so it will be invested in.
the "no taxes" crowd understands that the more the government gets the less it spends on the people. See SS, and medicare, 2 great examples of why the government should keep it hands out things. If you like taxes ,Sweden pays about 60% of there income to the government, i am sure its paradise. -- Say no to fear. Dont let anxiety crush your life. Live life free and unfettered.
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1 edit | Re: Bingo. said by DaveNJ :See SS, and medicare, 2 great examples of why the government should keep it hands out things. Actually, those are two of the better managed and efficient government programs with much less waste than would be expected of any program that size.
The problem with both programs is that, again, the "no taxes" idiots have refused to fund the progams at levels need to sustain them and keep them viable for future generations.
All while the 30 years of conservative government has raided the trust fund to make up for its inept policies and revenue shortfall.
Can we say burning the candle at both ends? You take the money that's already there and refuse to fund it as needed...and then point at it as an example of bad governance. | |
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The raise-taxes idiots just waste it faster than it comes in. | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by Dogfather :The no-taxes idiots have funded the gov't to RECORD revenues. The raise-taxes idiots just waste it faster than it comes in. That's actually not true. From record surplus to record deficit and debt....on whose watch? -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by Dogfather :Gov't doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem. The government has a WAR problem. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| Re: Bingo. said by DaveNJ : Look at Detroit, I guess the liberal dominated government there has lead to such prosperity. No, Detroit's problem is rooted in our utter fascination with unfettered "free trade" and successive city administrations that have been utterly corrupt.
Not all problems fit the liberal-conservative mold. However, IMHO the conservatives don't know how to govern, but that doesn't mean the Democrats are blame-free. Plenty of blame to go around for all. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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1 edit | said by kapil :said by DaveNJ :See SS, and medicare, 2 great examples of why the government should keep it hands out things. Actually, those are two of the better managed and efficient government programs with much less waste than would be expected of any program that size. The problem with both programs is that, again, the "no taxes" idiots have refused to fund the progams at levels need to sustain them and keep them viable for future generations. All while the 30 years of conservative government has raided the trust fund to make up for its inept policies and revenue shortfall. Can we say burning the candle at both ends? You take the money that's already there and refuse to fund it as needed...and then point at it as an example of bad governance. Do us all a favor...don't reproduce. No... the government borrowed money from SS, and use it elsewhere, hence the "lock box". So the current Gen X, Y will be funding the largest amount of retired people ever. So the government never SAVED those funds, and used them for something else. Did you noticed what happened since Congress is now Liberal ruled, Gas prices rose, and house fallout. All because of liberal policy. Where the 30 yrs of conservative leadership is coming from i dont know. I guess there has never been a liberal in government. -- Say no to fear. Dont let anxiety crush your life. Live life free and unfettered.
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| Re: Bingo. said by DaveNJ :[Did you noticed what happened since Congress is now Liberal ruled, Gas prices rose, and house fallout. All because of liberal policy. Where the 30 yrs of conservative leadership is coming from i dont know. I guess there has never been a liberal in government. LOL. Nice try. The gas prices are the result of not having a coherent energy policy through successive administrations...both Democratic and Republican. At least one of the parties *tries* to do something about it other than drilling more holes looking for oil.
The "house fallout" was due to a hands-off free-market-trumps-all style of governance practiced by the current President.
Had we regulated banks and industry instead of choking the regulatory authority vested in the various agencies we'd be much better off today. -- »www.DumbLogic.com | |
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| said by kapil :said by DaveNJ :[Did you noticed what happened since Congress is now Liberal ruled, Gas prices rose, and house fallout. All because of liberal policy. Where the 30 yrs of conservative leadership is coming from i dont know. I guess there has never been a liberal in government. LOL. Nice try. The gas prices are the result of not having a coherent energy policy through successive administrations...both Democratic and Republican. At least one of the parties *tries* to do something about it other than drilling more holes looking for oil. The "house fallout" was due to a hands-off free-market-trumps-all style of governance practiced by the current President. Had we regulated banks and industry instead of choking the regulatory authority vested in the various agencies we'd be much better off today. No the problem democrats saying we cant build new power plants, drill in anwar, etc etc. There against nuclear, coal, gas refinaries. There hasnt been a new refinary in 30 years. Because Greens protest.
The housing crisis is because banks HAD TO lend to people, there werent permitted to ask certain questions. Another liberal policy.
Liberals are against energy independence, and letting banks decide who is a good loan or not. Why would a bank waste its time with foreclosures it costs them money... duh... -- Say no to fear. Dont let anxiety crush your life. Live life free and unfettered.
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