 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to Dogfather
Re: Bingo. said by Dogfather:said by Matt:said by Dogfather:Yeah, because we know how efficient and successful government programs are.  Like the interstate highway system? Or the national power grid? I'd even go so far as to say the POTS system since the government stepped in a regulated the level of service. Yeah, the Federal highways are ashambles and clogged shut with traffic despite taxpayers paying COUNTLESS billions in road taxes and fees that just end up being stolen for bullcrap welfare programs. The power grids? At least out here they were originally built by the power companies and are now managed by CalISO and other gov't mandated ISOs that give us our wonderful rolling blackouts. POTS? Paid for by the telcos and is overpriced thanks in no small part to the wonderful taxes and fees subs are forced to pay on it. You described California. Move.
Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. |
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 DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
2 edits | said by Matt:You described California. Move. Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. Wait till the illegals show up by the millions like they did here and clog your roads, ruin your schools and close your hospitals.
Nothing does quite so well for a society than to import poverty by the unchecked millions. |
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cacoPremium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | said by Dogfather:said by Matt:You described California. Move. Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. Wait till the illegals show up by the millions like they did here and clog your roads, ruin your schools and close your hospitals. Nothing does quiet so well for a society than to import poverty by the unchecked millions. said by Dogfather:said by Matt:You described California. Move. Here in North Carolina, we have a wonderful interstate system and a great power grid with no rolling blackouts. Wait till the illegals show up by the millions like they did here and clog your roads, ruin your schools and close your hospitals. Nothing does quiet so well for a society than to import poverty by the unchecked millions. So there was no traffic, school weren't overcrowded and hospitals were in top shape in Cali until the illegals showed up? Maybe you exagerating just a tad?
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
1 edit | No exageration. California used to have best (or near the very best) public schools, the best hospitals and absolutely THE best highway system in the nation. Not any more. Hospitals are being crushed by illegals getting services that they can't pay for (and the gov't doesn't reimburse enough for), the schools can't handle the influx of non-English speakers who are already behind in education, and the increase in non-legal population (since the legal population has actually decreased) has taxed all aspects of infrastructure, whether it's electricity, water, highways, hospitals, prisons, or anything else).
I know it's hard for people living outside of Southern California to visualize or believe the problem could be this bad, but you just have to have lived here for the last 40 years to see how it has changed for the worse.
The statistics about there being 75,000 less K-12 students but spending $11 billion more and that LA county saw a $300 million shortfall for hospitals (resulting in closures of hospitals and 4 hours waits for the ERs) can get taxing, but that is the direct result of unchecked illegal immigration.
Plus illegal immigration drives down wages for legal immigrants and other lower skilled jobs. For example it used to be in California that being a carpender or in other construction trades meant great pay and benefits but not any more.
It's a mess and getting worse and despite record gov't revenues, we face another $14 billion deficit this year. |
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