GadgetsRme
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| Watch your inboxes for Panda droppings
It has been awhile but some of us got real fed up with Panda and their spam attacks. Well, THEY'RE BACK. I haven't touched the Panda site or any of their products since, yet today I received this email from their customer service requiring me to opt out yet again or start receiving their crap all over again.
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Dear user,
At Panda we want to keep our users up-to-date at all times regarding our products and services to ensure they have maximum protection.
For this reason we are currently checking all our mailing lists to be able to communicate with all customers that want us to do so, and to update the list of those that do not want to receive communications from us.
If you don’t want to continue receiving information from us via email, please click here.
Otherwise, we will assume that you want to continue receiving information about our products, new versions, news, etc.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Thank you for choosing Panda Security.
Customer Services Department
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Watch your in boxes!!
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Oleg
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Birmingham, AL | The same problem here. |
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anony101
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Got the same email a few days ago. Sent it to the junk mail folder. Problem solved. |
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AB
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join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
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Dear customer:
Click here to be removed from our spam list.
Click here to not be spammed asking if you've changed your mind about being removed from our spam list.
Click here not to recieve spams reminding you that you've asked not to be spammed and asked not to be asked if you've changed your mind about being removed from our spam list.
Click here to recieve our confirmation spam asking if you're sure you don't want to receive spams reminding you that you've asked not to be spammed and asked not to be asked if you've changed your mind about being removed from our spam list.
Click here to ensure you receive a secondary level confirmation spam asking if you're sure you don't want to receive spams reminding you that you've asked not to be spammed and asked not to be asked if you've changed your mind about being removed from our spam list.
Otherwise, we cannot guarantee that you will no longer receive spam, confirmation spam, or secondary level confirmation spam from us.
Actually, even then we can't guarantee it.
Click here for more spam, or to confirm the above.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Thank you for choosing us.
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Name Game
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North Myrtle Beach, SC | reply to GadgetsRme
Just like the Energizer Bunny.. 
»Panda Still Spamming |
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GadgetsRme
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| said by Name Game  : Just like the Energizer Bunny.. Only not so cute just plain annoying, and that's being polite.
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Name Game
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| Then you got to go to that link and read it..or stop using their online scan or products. You had to have used them one time or the other..no one has proven yet they never used their stuff and still get email from them..there are screen shots in that thread to show just where most made the short list..many here also used the free panda tools that were posted linked back in 2006 in this forum and they also required an email addy.
»SPAM from panda ?
10. PERSONAL DATA PROTECTION AND E-COMMERCE
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GadgetsRme
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May 22nd, @12:21AM
| I used it way back then, one time. Then I opted out on the first round of email notifications. It took me months to get them to stop filling my inbox. Now they say "we're going to start up again unless you opt out again. What part of STOP don't they effin' understand!!
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If you'd read the whole thread you referenced Name Game you'd have seen my complaints about it way back then. A person should only have to opt out once and be done with it, not work at it for 2 months and then 2 years later have to do it again that's just bullshit.
a link from the thread you linked to:
»Panda Still Spamming
See page 4 for my complaints.
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MorePandaSpam
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I tried for months to get Panda to quit spamming me after just one use of the free tools touted by this forum! The offending link is still there.
Now they've started again! What part of "Leave my mailbox alone!" don't they understand? |
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Name Game
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| Post the header of that email..and lets find out..I read all your posts in those other thread..saw you were having problems with it seems the same people in those threads each time. Just what steps did you do personally to have them stop. no big deal to me what forum you first saw the tools  The link is still there since the tools are valid..and when getting those tools one can click all the boxes to make sure they do not get "spammed" that is the part most understand. 
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AB
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Leesburg, VA
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said by MorePandaSpam :
. . What part of "Leave my mailbox alone!" don't they understand? Or simply "Leave me alone."
Panda's not alone in this. Many corporations and companies seem to take the attitude nowadays that a customer is theirs for the using and abusing, and deserves little to no respect.
And they're allowed to continue this attitude because we continue to give them our money or business anyway.
So the blame's not all one-sided.
And DSLR took Panda down from the list of recommended tools, I believe-- due to this very issue. |
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Name Game
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May 22nd, @07:35AM
| They are still up there.. just look at the top of the page as you post now..
Links: ·Hijack This logs? ·Panda Free Tools ·Vundo Removal
I've used those tools...even emailed them to people..but they do not spam me..and I was a registered user. |
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AB
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Leesburg, VA
| said by Name Game :They are still up there.. just look at the top of the page as you post now.. Hmmm. So they are, so they are.
I guess I've only seen that a few thousand times without it registering. (So to speak.)
I've used those tools...even emailed them to people..but they do not spam me..and I was a registered user. They don't spam me, either.
I've never used their tools, never registered, and never even been to their website, that I can recall.
Many, many others do not seem to be having the same experience as yourself, however. |
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Name Game
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| Which is why I a postin'..cause if you click on them it requires a name and password..so you got to register and when you do that..in that process..you have the ability to tell panda just what kind of email goodies if any you want..and you can opt out just like all the other stuff on the internet..and then they will not send you the stuff like I see in all these spam whine thread..
Free Real player and other apps had some of the same wickets to march through at one time..so none of this stuff is new..you just have to read the fine print.
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jaykaykay
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They say they don't Spam any more, and I haven't seen anything of late from them, even in my filtered mail that goes to delete. I did get Spam from them all the time years ago and up to fairly recently as I was one of those who didn't understand not to use my real email address initially, but I have since learned a lot about my idiocy and my security for privacy etal. They say that if you register now, that you have to pro actively ask for their email by checking what is, by default, an unchecked box for receiving mail etc.
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AB
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said by Name Game :. . if you click on them it requires a name and password..so you got to register and when you do that..in that process..you have the ability to tell panda just what kind of email goodies if any you want..and you can opt out just like all the other stuff on the internet..and then they will not send you the stuff like I see in all these spam whine thread.. Free Real player and other apps had some of the same wickets to march through at one time..so none of this stuff is new..you just have to read the fine print. I think the point was made in previous threads that you got 'opted in' for their spam unless you were very, very, careful.
And perhaps it would be the natural inclination of a person in need of their tools to tend to trust a (relatively) big-name A/V vendor, and therefore not read the fine print as carefully as they would at some other site.
Just speculating. I wouldn't know.
It did seem like a crowbar and hand grenade weren't nearly enough weaponry to fend off their spam once on their list, however. At least judging from the complaints in previous threads.
Is it all purely just 'whining' and sour grapes from people who should have known better or read more closely? I guess I don't really know.
Sounds like there could be some substance and legitimacy to the complaints, however. Ref: the original post in this thread:
said by GadgetsRme :. . today I received this email from their customer service requiring me to opt out yet again . . . . Bolding mine. |
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GadgetsRme
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| said by AB :It did seem like a crowbar and hand grenade weren't nearly enough weaponry to fend off their spam once on their list, however. At least judging from the complaints in previous threads. Is it all purely just 'whining' and sour grapes from people who should have known better or read more closely? I guess I don't really know. Sounds like there could be some substance and legitimacy to the complaints, however. Ref: the original post in this thread: said by GadgetsRme :. . today I received this email from their customer service requiring me to opt out yet again . . . .[/bqoute] Bolding mine. Thanks AB, precisely my point. I knew why I got it and that's fine it didn't bother me. What bothered was it took at least two months to get opted out back in 2006. I have studiously avoided Panda and their products since and in fact have gone out of my way to remove and replace on customer machines whenever possible. Now two years later after absolutely no contact they are requiring me to opt out again. Anyone who doesn't understand that either needs to go back to English class or start wearing a name tag with Shill as the position title.
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Name Game
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Bolding mine..well contact them like others have if it bugs you so much ..the peps used their free tools or the free trial of the panda stuff and got on a list..now they get email..crying that it is Spam seems funny to me and starting threads on it every few years "like your powerless to do anything about it" reminds me of all the threads from Free or paid AV users who never even read the manual for the product they download or the help file and complain the thing does not work right. I can see some of that happening for first time users..but the threads on the 'Panda Spam' every few months are filled with posts from some members I thought would know better.
But that is also just speculation.
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AB
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| said by Name Game :Bolding mine.. well contact them like others have if it bugs you so much It doesn't bug me so much (bolding mine) because I don't get their spam.
I don't like it when any company doesn't comprehend "no thank you". Whether that be initially or later on.
What is it that bugs you so much about people not liking or wanting Panda's spam, and not wanting to be re-contacted two years after opting out just to make sure they still don't want it? |
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Name Game
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said by AB :said by Name Game :They are still up there.. just look at the top of the page as you post now.. Hmmm. So they are, so they are. I guess I've only seen that a few thousand times without it registering. (So to speak.) I've used those tools...even emailed them to people..but they do not spam me..and I was a registered user. They don't spam me, either. I've never used their tools, never registered, and never even been to their website, that I can recall. Many, many others do not seem to be having the same experience as yourself, however. Just keepin the thread alive for those many many others so they can give their story about new spam from their 2 year ago opt out...and never have touched a panda product since they first give them their email addy..heck we even have some that say they get the spam from Panda on a email addy they never gave to panda in the first place.
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