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tmc8080

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a bit like this...

Remember when telcos wanted to get dialup users cranking out those unlimited minutes using 28-56k modems to an alternative?

Well, the industry's answer to that was DSL lines or Cablemodems if you were lucky enough.. If a network protocol can save the industry money.. and be data agnostic it MAY become adopted. The minute you try to add DRM, Copyright filtering & discrimination. Bang, it's dead on arrival.

Potentially, telcos & cablecos can save millions by doing peer to / for peer protocols smarter. Similar to hybrid electric, displacement on demand, regenerative braking & other gimmicks to save on fuel; they can work if you embrace everything customers choose to do on the network for better or worse.

One thing I want to know, is.. can't intelligent backbones handle most of this already? If all packets move en-masse such as turning on a fire hydrant.. that costs plenty of money.. but if the packets move as freely sound & light though the vacuum of space.. well, one can only imagine savings to the bottom line (just don't expect for you to pay less and get more.. not gonna happen for a while).


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said by tmc8080:

One thing I want to know, is.. can't intelligent backbones handle most of this already?
Yes, but that's actually part of the problem. The Internet is built on standards (see RFC5000) for the current list.

People who make applications for the Internet make them from their local -- such as Santa Monica (an X server), Berlin (a mail client), or Israel (a place-shifting video gizmo).

People who use these applications live where you live, where I live, and where everyone else lives.

What makes this market work is that Internet Standards are what defines the recipe of the Internet.

We can't have the network in the middle behave differently than the Standards say that they should behave, because suddenly all of the expectations break. The mail client doesn't work on Comcast, but the poor developer in Berlin can't figure out why. The X-Server doesn't work EXCEPT on the Santa Monica ISP -- again, some network operator did something unique and the builder thought that's the way the Internet worked everywhere.

The network in the middle was built to be fast, not smart. The end points were built to do the management.

BitTorrent was written to work around congested links TO PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING FURTHER CONGESTED! Yet now we have operators trying to break that model and put the bytes where they want them, instead -- and then complaining about how congested everything becomes. How uber-dumb!*

And yes, it does make connections -- if you run enough swarms simultaneously, it can make hundreds of connections. However, it's only going to use 3-4 of them -- and it does that in order to quickly respond to any signs of congestion.

*Them, not you. Yours was a great question.
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