Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20524850 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:44:06 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:44:06 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20539605 patcat88 :
said by KrK See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!
I think you missed more then that... you missed the point entirely.

Let's see: Bell Canada rolls out throttling on THIRD PARTY ISP'S that among other things throttles sites like Vuze.

Meanwhile they launch their own, un-throttled Video store.

I guess you can't see any problem with that? Sure, they aren't forcing you to use their store. They're just throttling you and others from using OTHER services.
Download your videos over HTTP, Rapidshare for example, and it won't be throttled, end of story.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20539605 Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:58 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20529066 DataRiker :
said by fatness See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by tertech See Profile :

So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?
»www.thefreedictionary.com/non%20sequitur
non sequitur
A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
If you've followed the history of this, it is not a non sequitur at all. It is a decent analogy.
My thoughts exactly, ony you beat me too it. LOL @ TK]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20529066 Fri, 23 May 2008 12:40:24 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525575 KrK :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!
I think you missed more then that... you missed the point entirely.

Let's see: Bell Canada rolls out throttling on THIRD PARTY ISP'S that among other things throttles sites like Vuze.

Meanwhile they launch their own, un-throttled Video store.

I guess you can't see any problem with that? Sure, they aren't forcing you to use their store. They're just throttling you and others from using OTHER services.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525575 Thu, 22 May 2008 19:38:29 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525328 fatness :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by tertech See Profile :

So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?
»www.thefreedictionary.com/non%20sequitur
non sequitur
A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
If you've followed the history of this, it is not a non sequitur at all. It is a decent analogy.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Hey they are bringing out a new service. So let's get out the tar & feathers and run them out of town on a rail. {/sarcasm}

Bell Video Store Q&A
»www.bellvideostore.ca/Help.htm
Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!
They're not forcing you to use their video store, they're forcing you to NOT use anybody ELSE's video store.

Bell complains they have congestion in their network, so they throttle P2P and some other streaming media formats. This prevents competitors from delivering users to Sympatico customers. Bell also throttles the connections of wholesalers that buy aggregation services from Bell, so in effect, all DSL subscribers in Ontario/Quebec can use Bell's services, or nobody else.

That's a tad anti-competitive, doncha think? Walmart doesn't MAKE you shop there, they just drive everybody else out of business so that you don't have a choice. Same thing here, except worse; it's like Walmart is boarding up the doors on other peoples' stores to stop them from accepting customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525043 Thu, 22 May 2008 17:52:44 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525005 Niarlan : I think it's more along these lines....

Bell Marketing: We are going to be launching our new Video store soon.

Bell Management: But there are other stores out there, how will we be able to compete with them?

Bell Marketing: Simple, we have our network engineers degrade the service on all others, we own the pipes after all, that way everyone will be forced to go to our product if they want good performance.

Bell Management: But what about the ISP's we lease to?

Bell Legal: Oh don't worry....we had a poison pill buried in all of our contracts in case.

Bell Management: Shiney]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20525005 Thu, 22 May 2008 17:44:13 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524889 pablo2525 : You're missing the history on Bell wrt throttling. Please read the links in the article above.

I mean this in a kind way: your ignorance is showing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524889 Thu, 22 May 2008 17:24:23 EDT Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524868 TKJunkMail :
said by tertech See Profile :

So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?
»www.thefreedictionary.com/non%20sequitur
non sequitur
A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Hey they are bringing out a new service. So let's get out the tar & feathers and run them out of town on a rail. {/sarcasm}

Bell Video Store Q&A
»www.bellvideostore.ca/Help.htm
Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!
So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524850 Thu, 22 May 2008 17:16:40 EDT Providing a new service - hang the SOBs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524779 TKJunkMail : Hey they are bringing out a new service. So let's get out the tar & feathers and run them out of town on a rail. {/sarcasm}

Bell Video Store Q&A
»www.bellvideostore.ca/Help.htm
Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20524779 Thu, 22 May 2008 17:01:36 EDT