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So if they didn't get immunity what happens.
A few customers who weren't damaged get a worthless coupon.
Bloodsucking scumbag Sen Edwards types get millions.
Customer rates go up because corporations don't pay this, customers ultimately do.
If the telco broke the law, put those who signed off on it in jail. Otherwise STFU unless you can PROVE some individual was personally damaged by their actions. |
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kapil
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Re: So what
said by Dogfather  :So if they didn't get immunity what happens. A few customers who weren't damaged get a worthless coupon. Bloodsucking scumbag Sen Edwards types get millions. Customer rates go up because corporations don't pay this, customers ultimately do. If the telco broke the law, put those who signed off on it in jail. Otherwise STFU unless you can PROVE some individual was personally damaged by their actions. The dirty laundry gets aired in public. Telcos get the bad publicity they have earned. The citizens, hopefully, learn that Democracy is not a spectator sport. There is some accountability for unprecedented, unconstitutional and illegal actions undertaken by the employees we sent to Washington to watch our house for us.
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NOCMan
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Yeah but you're talking about people who wont go to jail.
Bush would just pardon them if that happened. They should of held off on Scooter Libby's sentencing until Bush was out of office. |
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roc5955
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said by Dogfather :If the telco broke the law, put those who signed off on it in jail. Otherwise STFU unless you can PROVE some individual was personally damaged by their actions. No! If a telco broke the law, the person who authorized them to break the law should go to jail. Civil penalties could be levied, whether or not someone was personally damaged, if intent could be proven.
If this goes to the top of the administration, than let's find out. I am tired of this administration literally getting away with murder.
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kapil
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Re: So what
said by NOCMan :Yeah but you're talking about people who wont go to jail. Bush would just pardon them if that happened. They should of held off on Scooter Libby's sentencing until Bush was out of office. Doesn't matter. Step 1 is always a full accounting of events. We can't get to punishment stage until the charges are read out loud in public and the traitors have an opportunity - regardless of the fact that they denied this to others - to mount a defense of their treasonous conduct.
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kapil
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said by Dogfather :STFU I will not.
I will stand here and defend my country and try my damnedest to prevent it from turning into a place where the rich rule over the poor, where no one except the ruling elite has rights, where people are disappeared in the middle of the night and stuffed in a far away Gulags for speaking up and expressing free thought without any recourse or right to a public trial.
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3 edits | The super rich like Sen. Edwards and hyper elites like Obama, Clinton and Bush already rule over the slave class they've created through oppressive taxation.
You are wasting your breath to think that whining about it will change anything. And if you think voting makes any difference think again. Our primary system is so corrupt that the people don't get their choice. It doesn't matter who gets the most votes, the elites of society manipulate the system through the media and making up rules as they go and ultimately make the final decision.
Hell you have asswipes like Limbag sending Republicans to screw with the Democratic primaries while dumbass Dean works hard to see that Michigan and Florida voters voices don't count (so much for making every vote count).
And even if they did, Dem elites (the super-dels) get the final say. It's bullsh!t.
You have corrupt politicians bribed on a daily basis and since those corrupt politicians make all the rules, the game is over. Like a virus, you have to format the drive and start over if you want to get it right.
EDIT- Oh, and Ron Paul for President. |
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There are no damages if there was no damage.
Civil penalties for what? No one was damaged.
So then it comes to whether or not there were criminal acts. If there were, instead of giving millions to bloodsucking scum lawyers, those who signed off on it should go to jail. |
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said by Dogfather :...You are wasting your breath to think that whining about it will change anything...
Yep, time to sue their butts off, and the ass-wipes who helped them.
The system is no doubt corrupt. It is time to start cleaning up the foul mess the Bush administration, and his rubber stamp Congress, have saddled us with. May as well start with the Telcos, since the elite, as you call them, will probably never go to jail as they ought. I don't mind seeing lawyer, or even a whole gaggle of lawyers, make a buck off the prosecution of these treasonous felons. |
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said by kapil :I will stand here and defend my country and try my damnedest to prevent it from turning into a place where the rich rule over the poor, where no one except the ruling elite has rights, where people are disappeared in the middle of the night and stuffed in a far away Gulags for speaking up and expressing free thought If you have even a single example of this happening in this country please let us know. Hell, if you have some knowledge of this happening, I suggest you immediately hire and attorney and contact all the major news bureaus! Your story will likely be in such widespread, worldwide demand that I suspect you will be richer than Bill Gates by the end of next week. Imagine that, a forum regular on our hummble site is about to break the largest news story of the past 200 years! Just promise us one thing; that your new-found fame and fortune wont compromise your ethics and values lest you turn into what you adamently claim to despise.....
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said by Dogfather :EDIT- Oh, and Ron Paul for President. QFT. It's a shame that there are so many ignorant people in this country who couldn't see that he and his ideas are what we need to start fixing what's really wrong with this country.
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Who are the traitors here?
The companies that complyed with a request from their gov't during a time of national crisis, or the s***bags that want to further the mayhem by limiting our governments 1 true obligation to the constitution--- our defense!
And why oh why hasn't Klein been charged, theres the true traitor!
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kapil
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| said by S_engineer :Who are the traitors here? The companies that complyed with a request from their gov't during a time of national crisis, or the s***bags that want to further the mayhem by limiting our governments 1 true obligation to the constitution--- our defense! And why oh why hasn't Klein been charged, theres the true traitor! There is no "crisis". I'd say that the constitution is a little bit more complex than just "defense". And speaking out for your beliefs, in the face of all sorts of odds, makes you a hero not a traitor.
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kapil
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said by wifi4milez :If you have even a single example of this happening in this country please let us know. That's the point, isn't it...if it were happening, we wouldn't know because the first rule of fight club is to never talk about fight club.
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wifi4milez
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| said by kapil :said by wifi4milez :If you have even a single example of this happening in this country please let us know. That's the point, isn't it...if it were happening, we wouldn't know because the first rule of fight club is to never talk about fight club. Ummmm, yeah. Taking the easy way out on this one I see. The main reason your "theory" is wrong is that (contrary to your stated beliefs) we do live in a free and open society. If people started mysteriously disappearing others would take notice. Unless of course you think all those alien abductions were actually perpetrated by the government! Oh wait, I have said too much....I think I hear a knock at my door....I wonder if its the little green men or the FBI coming to take me away for "knowing too much" or "speaking my mind"!
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kapil
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said by S_engineer :So by your logic...Adolph Hitler was a hero with his actions after the Treaty of Versailles? »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
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So you cite an ambulance chaser trying to establish political correctness rather than argue your own words on merit. The North side must be proud of you.... |
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