SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19 | Um Yeah
So essentially, these buffoons want to lock down the Internet, censoring/blocking everything that they specifically do not approve of. We've seen this in action already. It's called China. |
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jrsmooth
join:2000-05-17
Washington, DC
| said by SilverSurfer  :So essentially, these buffoons want to lock down the Internet, censoring/blocking everything that they specifically do not approve of. We've seen this in action already. It's called China. This is the most ignorant post I have seen this week. What has China to do with this? This thread has something to do with anti-piracy, and if you look hard enough, you can possible find any piece of copyrighted material through Baidu.com
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| said by jrsmooth : What has China to do with this? Gee, I dunno...wanting to censor everything that is not specifically approved by government mandate? Does that ring any bells for you? I'm guessing not. Move along nothing for you to see here. |
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swhx7
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Elbonia
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Re: Um Yeah
The so-called "war on druge" went similarly. It began as a combination of concern about health effects of unregulated opiates, moralism, hysteria, and protecting existing industries from competition with hemp. The prohibition then failed to make much difference in drug use, but produced such a pernicious set of side effects that it became entrenched.
So many important actors have profited so much that the "drug war" is now self-perpetuating and no longer has much connection with the phony excuses about health effects or protecting children:
* boom for police departments' funding
* later a big boost for the private prison industry
* big profits for dealers
* means for governments to make big money covertly
* excuse for oppressive/fascist/totalitarian laws - "no knock" and military-style raids, snooping into every detail of people's lives, etc.
Similarly, the copyright craze began with protectionism for one industry, and soon morphed into extremist laws and a pretext for censorship, monitoring of private communications, and remote control of other people's computers (DRM).
Ever since the internet came along, governments have been seeking a way to shut down the free flow of information that it enables. When people have easy, immediate access to information from all over the world, propaganda becomes less effective and having a few corporations controlling the mainstream media is no longer sufficient to manufacture acquiescence to policies.
Hollywood, of course, is the main propaganda arm of the US government - keeping Americans reliably lulled into complacency. The entertainment companies are also the means of US cultural imperialism abroad. For both these reasons, as well as business owners having effective control of government, these companies have to be kept profitable. Put this together with the quest for an excuse to clamp down on internet freedom, and copyright emerges as the perfect pretext and weapon against freedom of communication. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
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Re: Um Yeah
said by SilverSurfer :It's called China. No, its called the NWO. Of course the big bugaboo will be what constitutes "illegal information". In China that would be discussion of "Democracy" or "Christianity" in Saudi Arabia. It would be funny if the United States joins this proposed treaty and finds itself having to crack down on Church web sites and pro-democracy discussion because it violates the treaty!
Time to put my Aluminum foil hat back on!
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Not for nothing I think you are taking his comment personal and there is no need for it.
He is comparing this to "The Great Firewall of China" where the government blocks any site they do not strictly approve.
Think white lists on a country wide scale. Here is the link for you to sample the goods that they offer through the firewall. »www.greatfirewallofchina.org/
Stop thinking every one is against china and grow up some , learn to try and comprehend posts before you attack.
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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said by jrsmooth :said by SilverSurfer :So essentially, these buffoons want to lock down the Internet, censoring/blocking everything that they specifically do not approve of. We've seen this in action already. It's called China. This is the most ignorant post I have seen this week. What has China to do with this? This thread has something to do with anti-piracy, and if you look hard enough, you can possible find any piece of copyrighted material through Baidu.com The fact that they are trying to censor the entire world for the most part is what anything has to do with this. |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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said by jrsmooth :said by SilverSurfer :said by jrsmooth :[...] you are just another ignorant China-hater who can't contribute anything anyway... Did you come up with that one all by yourself, sweetie? I think it's time for you to go to bed now. It's way past your bedtime and the adults need to talk. Two most ******* posts from the same ***** in a row within the same thread, amazing! **** ***! And your post is any better?  |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to SilverSurfer
Whenever I load up a popular torrent there are always plenty of seeds from China, I don't see this as being anything but a psychological tool.
Eventually we're just going to tax it across the board |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
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Jrsmooth, you are taking this personally, I wonder why. It does have to do with the government blocking certain content it does not see fit for the public. Thats it! And it does remind ME of the suppressive ways of the Chinese government. Its no secret that China is the most internet censored country in the world. |
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JimF
join:2003-06-15
Allentown, PA
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said by n2jtx :It would be funny if the United States joins this proposed treaty and finds itself having to crack down on Church web sites and pro-democracy discussion because it violates the treaty! The U.S. already has laws on copyright protection. You sound like one of the people that has been ignoring them. |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
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join:2002-06-09
Montreal
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International Broa..
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| said by JimF : You sound like one of the people that has been ignoring them. So you never went over the speed limit, ever? |
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JimF
join:2003-06-15
Allentown, PA | Read his remarks. He wasn't inadvertently going over the speed limit, he was arguing that we take down the traffic signs. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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| reply to JamesPC
said by JamesPC :Its no secret that China is the most internet censored country in the world. Soon to be #2 behind the USA...? |
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jj_frap
join:2003-12-15
·Bell Sympatico
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It's justifiable to pirate many things...The interests who want us in jail for this have been able to pay government to not only extend copyright terms to ridiculous lengths, but also apply these extensions retroactively.
Walt ain't making a dime of Mickey and if Mickey were to fall under the copyright laws that existence when he was invented, he would be in the public domain. |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
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said by jrsmooth :said by SilverSurfer :So essentially, these buffoons want to lock down the Internet, censoring/blocking everything that they specifically do not approve of. We've seen this in action already. It's called China. This is the most ignorant post I have seen this week. What has China to do with this? This thread has something to do with anti-piracy, and if you look hard enough, you can possible find any piece of copyrighted material through Baidu.com It has to do with those dumb f*cks that are elected to "serve" us, the American people, in that city full of shitheads that you reside in.
-Tzale
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jrsmooth
join:2000-05-17
Washington, DC
| said by Tzale :said by jrsmooth :said by SilverSurfer :So essentially, these buffoons want to lock down the Internet, censoring/blocking everything that they specifically do not approve of. We've seen this in action already. It's called China. This is the most ignorant post I have seen this week. What has China to do with this? This thread has something to do with anti-piracy, and if you look hard enough, you can possible find any piece of copyrighted material through Baidu.com It has to do with those dumb f*cks that are elected to "serve" us, the American people, in that city full of shitheads that you reside in. -Tzale Proud Conservative huh? Supports Ron Who? Sorry man, still the third most ignorant post I have read this week, but at least yours has something to do with policy making though.
Whatever you say or think my friend, life is good in Washington DC, even though there are still people making 6-figure still living paycheck to paycheck.
By the way, best wishes with Ron Who.
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