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Re: Ok... Score one for the great state of Connecticut.
Do you own a home? These monstrosities ruin property values. AT&T could spend a little bit more to bury the boxes, in the process generating a ton of goodwill. Their belief that they can do whatever they want is ticking off a lot of people.
We'll see what AT&T does to try to counter this move. They'll probably complain to their buddies at the FCC and Congress and get some sort of federal regulation passed saying they can do whatever they want. |
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La Crosse, WI
kudos:2 | You may very well be right about the complaining, but from what I understand, this very large boxes, much like any other electrical equipment, need air flow, otherwise they get too hot. The company isn't going to spend money on these and then have to replace them shortly thereafter because of some equipment failure, among other possible reasons. Property value does matter, but really, it's only reducing the value because people think it's an eye sore, and they are not realizing the advantages. People want things all the time, but aren't willing to make sacrifices to get them. Everyone wants a free ride in this world, guess what? It doesn't exist. It's only what YOU make it to be.
Thank you.
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Earth | reply to probboy
The only problem with putting them underground is the vault they would need to make would need to be at least 1.5 to 2 times the size of the cabinet so there is room to get a person in it and have the panels open.
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so why aren't these same ppl and you complaining about power transformers??? they're in alot of front yards. I know they're not as big...but... honestly, as much as homeowners hate it, AT&T should put them wherever they want. well. almost.
Have you ever heard of RIGHT-OF-WAY?? EAVESEMENT?? I'm not sure bout CT, but in most states, technically, you don't really have a say-so as to what as far as utilities, is put into the 1st 5-10ft. of your front yard. Thats what the right-of-way is. But leave it to a Liberal state such as CT, to come up with some CRAP like this!! |
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| My home in CT does. Its right on my deed.
Just depends on the area. We still have some pretty rural areas, with real working farms. |
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Calm down, young grasshopper. |
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said by xxTRAGEDYxx:so why aren't these same ppl and you complaining about power transformers??? I'm not really sure to whom you are responding. Power transformers here are pole mounted or in underground vaults.
said by xxTRAGEDYxx: Have you ever heard of RIGHT-OF-WAY?? EAVESEMENT?? Absolutely, but an easement doesn't give a company carte blanche to do whatever they want. The state can regulate what goes where--it's called zoning. AT&T is riding roughshod over the localities with their we-can-do-whatever-we-want-we're-the-phone-company attitude. Had they approached localities and property owners to get feedback on where to put these things, there wouldn't be this issue. Instead they've decided to litigate, which is fine, but tends to annoy people.
But leave it to a Liberal state such as CT, to come up with some CRAP like this!!
Connecticut is right-of-center. |
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claco
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Tallmadge, OH | reply to probboy
Hey, I don't want a frigging telephone pole in my yard either, or the state stealing another 5 foot to put in curbs and drains, but it is what it is. |
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 DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Curbs and drains aren't for the benefit of a private corporation who stands to profit from it.
If AT&T wants the dirt for their box, let them buy or lease it from the PROPERTY OWNER. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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said by probboy:AT&T could spend a little bit more to bury the boxes... It only costs a "little" more to bury the boxes; but it costs a lot more to operate the boxes when buried. Where/how do you exhaust all the hot air? What happens if the cooling systems die? Who should foot the bill for operating buried boxes?
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Laguna Hills, CA | AT&T should operate them out of their large profit margins. |
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North Aurora, IL | reply to Dogfather
But the property owner doesn't own the ROW. |
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said by NormanS:Who should foot the bill for operating buried boxes? Gosh, I don't know, maybe AT&T? Isn't that part of the cost of doing business? |
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DogfatherPremium
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to cbrigante2
said by cbrigante2:But the property owner doesn't own the ROW. They do before the city/town siezes it via eminent domain to give to AT&T. |
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said by probboy:Score one for the great state of Connecticut... We'll see what AT&T does to try to counter this move. maybe they just will chose to deploy the service elsewhere. |
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cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
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North Aurora, IL | reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:said by cbrigante2:But the property owner doesn't own the ROW. They do before the city/town siezes it via eminent domain to give to AT&T. It depends on the local zoning laws, but where I am, ROW is never owned by the homeowner. |
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said by Dogfather:AT&T should operate them out of their large profit margins. As with any business, they should apply the revenues from the service sold to the operation of the service they are selling.
The profits from the data transit business should not be applied to the operation of delivery of consumer services.
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said by xxTRAGEDYxx:...in most states, technically, you don't really have a say-so as to what as far as utilities, is put into the 1st 5-10ft. of your front yard. Thats what the right-of-way is. Not. "Right-of-way", as a noun, applies to property over which a right exists to transit between two points. A public "right-of-way" gives that right to the general public. Roads, streets, sidewalks; all are public access, and, usually, publicly owned. OTOH, unless the utilities are buried, they are generally not set on a "right-of-way".
More commonly, utilities are set in an "easement", which is a portion of property, whether publicly, or privately, owned, and designated by some zoning agency, or some other government agency, for specific purpose relating to the common good.
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said by Dogfather:They do before the city/town siezes it via eminent domain to give to AT&T. I don't know about Laguna Hills, California, but in San José, California, "Right-of-Way" is owned by the City, County, or State.
Also, the only VRADs I have seen around here are set in parking strips, set between curb and sidewalk, or similar, and always adjacent to, or very near, an older, uglier green box called a, "cross-connect" box (aka, "B-Box").
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DogfatherPremium
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Laguna Hills, CA
1 edit | It would depend on whether or not the easement existed BEFORE the homeowner purchased the lot and whether the easement was large enough to hold the VRAD. Also it would depend on the details of the easements (underground vs above ground, or access only etc). |
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