claco
join:2002-09-29
Tallmadge, OH | reply to probboy
Re: Ok... Hey, I don't want a frigging telephone pole in my yard either, or the state stealing another 5 foot to put in curbs and drains, but it is what it is. |
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 DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Curbs and drains aren't for the benefit of a private corporation who stands to profit from it.
If AT&T wants the dirt for their box, let them buy or lease it from the PROPERTY OWNER. |
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 cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL | But the property owner doesn't own the ROW. |
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | said by cbrigante2:But the property owner doesn't own the ROW. They do before the city/town siezes it via eminent domain to give to AT&T. |
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cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
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North Aurora, IL | said by Dogfather:said by cbrigante2:But the property owner doesn't own the ROW. They do before the city/town siezes it via eminent domain to give to AT&T. It depends on the local zoning laws, but where I am, ROW is never owned by the homeowner. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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1 edit | reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:They do before the city/town siezes it via eminent domain to give to AT&T. I don't know about Laguna Hills, California, but in San José, California, "Right-of-Way" is owned by the City, County, or State.
Also, the only VRADs I have seen around here are set in parking strips, set between curb and sidewalk, or similar, and always adjacent to, or very near, an older, uglier green box called a, "cross-connect" box (aka, "B-Box").
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
1 edit | It would depend on whether or not the easement existed BEFORE the homeowner purchased the lot and whether the easement was large enough to hold the VRAD. Also it would depend on the details of the easements (underground vs above ground, or access only etc). |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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VRAD & B-Box on Castle Glen near Johnson. | .jpg/thumb.jpg "80504 bytes")
VRAD & B-Box on Castle Glen one block east of the first. |
Easement is an access to property. In the case of utilities, for the public good. The easement may be on public property (buried under the streets, or aerial on poles alongside the streets), or private property (the poles in my neighborhood).
Most utility easements are pre-existing. We had electric and telephone on the poles long before Gill cable set up shop in San José, California. The utility easement was created when the neighborhood was built in 1965.
The only VRADs in my immediate neighborhood are not only not on lawns, but not even in front yards.
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
4 edits | 
13 foot hole in her front yard | 
Another nice front yard install |
Hate to break it to you genius but in your neighborhood doesn't mean in everyone's neighborhood.
Save the cutting an pasting from Wikipedia and get a clue. VRADS placed on private property are set on an easement.
And nice conjecture there sport. You have zero clue as to whether or not 100% these VRAD installs are done in preexisting easements or if they were recently obtained through eminent domain or other action of the locality. |
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 mikes60My ParadisePremium
join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL | NIMBY A classic case of "NIMBY".
Although, this may be front or side yard.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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1 edit | reply to Dogfather
Re: Ok... You are just as clueless as I am...
Those are just the local neighborhood. Maybe I will catalogue all of the VRADs I have seen in the entire City of San José, or even the whole of Santa Clara County.
My suspicion is that more of the complaints about VRAD placement are isolated cases than you think. |
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
2 edits | reply to mikes60
Re: NIMBY It's not. It's more a case of NIMFY (not in my front yard) The 13 foot hole is in the front yard of that lady's home. It was a news item here a while back. |
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to NormanS
Re: Ok... If it's that isolated, no problem. Homeowners will have no issues approving the boxes then and these cases so rare that AT&T will have no problem relocating those very few boxes. |
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