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Anomaly95

join:2005-12-11
Phoenix, AZ

EFF?

Does anyone know where the EFF sits on this issue? I figured they would've already pounced on this.

SilverSurfer1

join:2007-08-19

said by Anomaly95:

Does anyone know where the EFF sits on this issue? I figured they would've already pounced on this.
Here ya go. The EFF in addtn to others.

clickie

join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI

reply to Anomaly95
I received a reply to that question a few weeks ago and their initial opinion is that it violates several laws and privacy statutes.


jaminus

join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA

reply to SilverSurfer1
ironically, your query has now become the top google search result for EFF + NebuAd


SilverSurfer1

join:2007-08-19

said by jaminus:

ironically, your query has now become the top google search result for EFF + NebuAd
I hope everyone who clicked on my search is giving their respective ISPs a run for their money, particularly if that ISP is using NebuAD. Those asshats can take that browsing history and go fuck themselves with it.


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

reply to Anomaly95

said by Anomaly95:

Does anyone know where the EFF sits on this issue? I figured they would've already pounced on this.
EFF, for a number of years, has offered an anonymous proxy service. It would be useful for those people that fell under NebuAd and wanted to stay out from under prying eyes. All that NebuAd would know is that you did a whole lotta surfing of to the EFF proxy server. Beyond that, not so much.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Nixen

Even if you use the proxy, the deep packet inspection (at isp level) will see your packets. So the proxy will do you zero (0) good.



nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

said by Lazlow:

Nixen

Even if you use the proxy, the deep packet inspection (at isp level) will see your packets. So the proxy will do you zero (0) good.
If the ISP is busting SSL packets, I really want to know about it because that means they're looking at my banking and other transactions, too.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

jaminus

join:2004-10-14
Arlington, VA

Anonymous proxies generally don't encrypt your browsing sessions with SSL, do they? Maybe EFF's does, I don't know. Your ISP couldn't break SSL if it wanted to, anyway. The AES and Triple DES ciphers used for SSL and IPSec data is unbreakable, even by the NSA as far as we know. So trust me, your ISP is not looking at your bank transactions.

For true privacy you need a VPN tunnel. VPNGates, SecureIX, Relakks, Steganos are all good VPN providers. If opting out isn't enough and you want guaranteed protection from ISP sniffing, just pay a few bucks a month for a tunnel.



nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

said by jaminus:

Anonymous proxies generally don't encrypt your browsing sessions with SSL, do they? Maybe EFF's does, I don't know.
It's been several years since I looked at the service that EFF initially offered. It's possible that it doesn't. It would be kind of silly, however, for a privacy advocate, to offer a half-assed privacy service, though. At the time they were initially offering it, it was a for-fee service on top of your basic EFF membership.

Looking at the EFF website, it looks like the original service may have been subsumed by the TOR project. I'm not seeing indications that the TOR entry point is SSL-protected. Then again, given the way that TOR works, it may not be meaningful in the context of NebuAD.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

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