kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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Re: why the French are right
said by Packeteers  :-you can get unlimited 1500/768 Broadband using a Cellular Data Card or data enabled phone with bluetooth. Ummm hate to break you but in Europe they are already at 7Mb HSUPA.... of course, they didn't have to deal with corrupt US legislative system and incompatible, proprietary networks with mandatory multi-year contract locks. 
OTOH Cingular is rolling out HSUPA IIRC so not everything lost here - no wonder that's an EU-like standard...
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Taylortbb
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join:2007-02-18
Waterloo, ON
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Exactly, 1500/768 (that's in kb/s), that's pretty slow compared to fibre. With 40Gb/s (40000000kb/s) fibre connections now a reality it's really not comparable. That also doesn't change the fact you can always light additional frequencies on a fibre optic cable. Fibre has virtually unlimited bandwidth.
I don't think wireless will ever compete, but maybe one day it will. I'm however pretty sure that day will be far enough in the future that fios will have been worth it.
I consider it basically a certainty that anything hyped as a future technology will not be, and the real future technology will be something we never expected. This is because humans cannot predict what will be invented or discovered, simply because we don't know what's out there. If wireless was going to seriously compete it would be competing by now, it's been around long enough.
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Packeteers
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join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
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right now, in 2008;
-you can get 1080p HDTV 5-channel audio reception off over the air UHF antenna.
-you can get unlimited 1500/768 Broadband using a Cellular Data Card or data enabled phone with bluetooth.
-all the while regular phone calls and text pricing is dropping.
you really think this over the air technologies will not improve and expand by 2012 when FOIS is supposed to be built? it will, in ways you obviously can't imagine especially once the low-VHF bands go up for sale. Verizon will use some of it's $24 Billion dollars to RETARD the very innovation it will ultimately have to compete with. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
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Re: the French are right
said by Packeteers :in principle. FIOS is dead on arrival if you believe wireless will eclipse it's usefulness long before the FIOS build out is complete. Yea, but no one believes that. |
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Technogeez
Gone but not forgetting
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join:2007-01-20 | reply to Packeteers
"Right in principle" usually means "wrong." |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
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Bah, everyone talks about wireless, but why do countries like Japan, with very advanced and developed wireless networks, also have large fiber deployments? An open RF system can never have the same amount of bandwidth as a closed fiber-optic system.
Couldn't one theoretically use wireless-type technologies over coaxial cable, anyway? And then you have substantially more spectrum available- the soon-to-be largest US wireless carrier (yes, even including the recent auction) by spectrum, "the new" Clearwire, has only about 100 MHz of spectrum, and it's in the 2.5 GHz band where propagation (through walls, for example) is a problem. Verizon Wireless will soon have 22 MHz in the superior 700 MHz band, which is better for propagation, but at the cost of having far less spectrum available, even when combined with their existing 800 MHz assets. (Which it can't be, since they'll have to keep legacy CDMA/EV-DO in place for quite awhile even after LTE) |
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Packeteers
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join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
| in principle. FIOS is dead on arrival
if you believe wireless will eclipse
it's usefulness long before the FIOS
build out is complete. we forget that
wireless is far more developed and
depended on in South East Asia then
here in North America, where any cable
or phone company can pressure officials
to let them lay cables every where. |
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