bugabuga
join:2004-06-10
Austin, TX
| Better than nothing at all
I'm a bit surprised at how much people don't want any competition at all. Yes, it'd be great if all new deals were perfect. It'd be even better if stupid franchise laws did not limit people to one or two local providers, hand picked for agreeing to carry local public channel or promising a build-out "everywhere".
I think if people are unhappy with current options, give a competition a chance as soon as possible, then think about extra rules upon renewal, as carrier would be more willing to cooperate with having some profitable customers they could potentially loose.
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deadzoned
Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
 ·Cox HSI
| Looking at the terms of the agreement, it looks both good and bad. I suppose it is a major plus to even have Verizon laying fiber in New York but at what cost?
A duopoly is not that much better than a monopoly. Cable rates still rise and typically Verizon follows suit - because they can due to the fact that it's just 2 players. They don't necessarily collude together and specifically meet to work together to raise prices but it does happen anyway. When you have only 2 games in town for service that's what happens.
There appears to be several commitments that Verizon can and will wiggle out of. In the future, I don't see Verizon meeting many of the guidelines it's agreed to. After all, Verizon does have a long history of not following through all the way on commitments unless it sees them as profitable. I guess we shall see. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
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said by bugabuga  :I'm a bit surprised at how much people don't want any competition at all. Yes, it'd be great if all new deals were perfect. It'd be even better if stupid franchise laws did not limit people to one or two local providers, hand picked for agreeing to carry local public channel or promising a build-out "everywhere". I think if people are unhappy with current options, give a competition a chance as soon as possible, then think about extra rules upon renewal, as carrier would be more willing to cooperate with having some profitable customers they could potentially loose. I tend to agree with that. I find it amazing that people today can be of the "if I cant get it, then nobody else can either" mindset. Sure, in a perfect world (for consumers at least) everyone would have access to 20 different providers. In reality however (and in business), if some people have choices thats better than no people having them. I dont know if people are being selfish or if they are just socialism fanboys, but the insanity needs to stop. Having FIOS available to more areas is a good thing, no matter how you look at it. I just wish this website didnt always put such a negative spin on what really is a win for consumers.
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
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said by bugabuga :I'm a bit surprised at how much people don't want any competition at all. Unfortunately, while the original promise was good, the net reality is that those areas that have FiOS now have a duopoly instead of a monopoly. The cable and phone companies seem perfectly happy not to compete too hard against each other. My area is just now getting FiOS installed and should be ready by the end of the summer. I do not expect there to be any cost or choice difference between Verizon or Cablevision. |
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MrSpock29
join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ
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said by wifi4milez :said by bugabuga :I'm a bit surprised at how much people don't want any competition at all. Yes, it'd be great if all new deals were perfect. It'd be even better if stupid franchise laws did not limit people to one or two local providers, hand picked for agreeing to carry local public channel or promising a build-out "everywhere". I think if people are unhappy with current options, give a competition a chance as soon as possible, then think about extra rules upon renewal, as carrier would be more willing to cooperate with having some profitable customers they could potentially loose. I tend to agree with that. I find it amazing that people today can be of the "if I cant get it, then nobody else can either" mindset. Sure, in a perfect world (for consumers at least) everyone would have access to 20 different providers. In reality however (and in business), if some people have choices thats better than no people having them. I dont know if people are being selfish or if they are just socialism fanboys, but the insanity needs to stop. Having FIOS available to more areas is a good thing, no matter how you look at it. I just wish this website didnt always put such a negative spin on what really is a win for consumers. well said.
If one company is going to face penalties for how business gets done in an area, then why not do it to all? But that would be ridiculous wouldn't it?
The city would face much less crowding over time, for sure.
It is unfortunate that some aren't even giving Verizon the CHANCE to fail. If they succeeded, and met those goals, I am sure something else would be found to complain about.
If Verizon misses a milestone by one house, I am sure there will be a party by some.
Maybe it just strikes me odd that some want to see companies severely punished for doing business, to hurt them and others in the process. Karl Marx would be proud.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| said by MrSpock29 :Karl Marx would be proud. Yes, and he would have quite the captive audience here at this website!
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