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Re: I don't know why I bother....
said by derekm  :I can't even read this guys stuff without getting infuriated. How is it that he can spread such lies and deceit, and still look at himself in the mirror? Every time I read something in the press from him, I feel sick. Are you referring to Bibic or Karl?  
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nasadude
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by derekm :I can't even read this guys stuff without getting infuriated. How is it that he can spread such lies and deceit, and still look at himself in the mirror? Every time I read something in the press from him, I feel sick. Are you referring to Bibic or Karl? if you think Karl is lying and deceitful, why are you here so much?
Do you envision yourself as keeping him "honest"? |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
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| said by nasadude :if you think Karl is lying and deceitful, why are you here so much? In journalism, honesty and transparency can only be measured by the editor's neutrality, however forced it may be. DSLR is a great resource. That doesn't mean it can't be better. IMO, Karl stooped to the same blatant "spin" (and advocacy) as the Madeconian cab driver. It doesn't reflect well on what is a terrific site.
Mark
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nasadude
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| said by amigo_boy :...IMO, Karl stooped to the same blatant "spin" (and advocacy) as the Madeconian cab driver. ... Mark maybe you can help me see the light and point out Karl's "blatant spin".
btw, spin and advocacy are somewhat different; advocacy puts forth an honest argument; spin tries to convince the listener that black is really white. |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
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| said by nasadude :btw, spin and advocacy are somewhat different; advocacy puts forth an honest argument; spin tries to convince the listener that black is really white. Baghdad Bob was an advocate for Saddam's government. Do you really see a difference?
I think DSLR readers are capable of forming their own conclusions. The fact that news has to be presented to with a [desired] conclusion is troubling. That always makes me question the conclusion. I guess it's even ironic coming from someone who considers themself a "question authority" type.
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
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| said by amigo_boy :said by nasadude :btw, spin and advocacy are somewhat different; advocacy puts forth an honest argument; spin tries to convince the listener that black is really white. Baghdad Bob was an advocate for Saddam's government. Do you really see a difference? I think DSLR readers are capable of forming their own conclusions. The fact that news has to be presented to with a [desired] conclusion is troubling. That always makes me question the conclusion. I guess it's even ironic coming from someone who considers themself a "question authority" type. Mark Considering your pro-corporate, anti-consumer views, it's not surprising you're complaining about this. |
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amigo_boy
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| said by digitalfreak :Considering your pro-corporate, anti-consumer views, it's not surprising you're complaining about this. I "spun advocacy" for the low-use consumer. I guess it was the wrong consumer. (Human nature again? Don't gore my ox?).
I wouldn't say I'm pro corporate. In the case of ISPs who control infrastructure, I'd place them under regulation like public utilities. It seems pointless to apply free market terms to them (about not reinvesting in infrastructure, shareholders reaping too much reward, losing business as a result) when there's virtually no competition.
Mark
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disc
join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC
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said by amigo_boy :IMO, Karl stooped to the same blatant "spin" (and advocacy) as the Madeconian cab driver. It doesn't reflect well on what is a terrific site. IMO, Karl is what makes this a terrific site. Karl is probing issues and bringing up questions that just aren't covered anywhere else. And it's a great launchpad for all the back and forth in the followup posts.
There's plenty of outlets that don't invite critical thinking. And those outlets aren't nearly as thriving as this one. |
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Guspaz
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They are regulated (DSL and cable service is regulated so that it must be offered to wholesalers), which is why the case is before the CRTC.
There are three questions posed to the CRTC, really, far as I can tell:
1) Under the current regulations, is Bell allowed to throttle wholesalers?
2) Does Bell's use of DPI violate PIPEDA and other privacy laws?
3) Does Bell's behaviour violate anti-competition laws? |
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nasadude
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Rockville, MD | reply to amigo_boy
I'm still waiting for the examples of Karl's "blatant spin". |
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derekm
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Even though your remark was tongue-in-cheek, and witty, it seems like people think that I actually meant Karl.
It is Bibic that makes me want to empty the contents of my stomach through my mouth/nose. |
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