 dannyboy 950 Premium join:2002-12-30 Port Arthur, TX
| reply to dannyboy 950 Re: xp home doesn't have group policy does it????
The reason I made this post is I have been finding entries in my evnt logs for group policys being applied. Now from my own scant knowledge XP Home did not use Group Policy.
Posting here bcaster kindly confirmed my thoughts.
Takeing these into consideration and upon reflection and furtherr testing, paying particular attention to what exactly was covered in these policies. I propose this hypothosiss for your consideration.
Almost all of the policies corresponed to user preference settings and the like. Others match things that certain apps might change.
I think XP Home treats and records these as Group policies being applied
I would appreciate all of your thoughts on this. |
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1 edit | No Group Policies are applied in XP Home. Nor on any non-Domain Active Directory joined workstation, XP Home or Pro, or Vista.
For special controls -- notably on the GUI, Explorer, and Control Panel applets -- the NT family has depended on registry entries to indicate whether a feature is enabled or not.
For example, your Wallpaper choices are registry "tattoos". While you could in a manged setting make everyone's Wallpaper identical through Group Policy, the fact the you can configure this on a stand-alone Workstation does not make it a Group Policy application.
The use of registry "tattoos", deprecated under NT6 and onwards, is what causes confusion. In some cases the active Group Policy object uses the same internal feature as would a user setting made through the GUI to achieve certain ends. However, in a setting with Group Policy active, you changes if allowed would not persist. They would be reset at every logon by Group Policy.
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| Event Type: Success Audit Event Source: Security Event Category: Policy Change Event ID: 848 Date: 5/31/2008 Time: 5:25:43 PM User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Computer: DANNY Description: The following policy was active when the Windows Firewall started.
Group Policy applied: Yes Profile used: Standard Interface: All interfaces Operational mode: Off Services: File and Printer Sharing: Disabled Remote Desktop: Disabled UPnP Framework: Disabled Allow remote administration: Disabled Allow unicast responses to multicast/broadcast traffic: Disabled Security Logging: Log dropped packets: Enabled Log successful connections Enabled ICMP: Allow incoming echo request: Enabled Allow incoming timestamp request: Disabled Allow incoming mask request: Disabled Allow incoming router request: Disabled Allow outgoing destination unreachable: Disabled Allow outgoing source quench: Disabled Allow outgoing parameter problem: Disabled Allow outgoing time exceeded: Disabled Allow redirect: Disabled Allow outgoing packet too big: Disabled
For more information, see Help and Support Center at »go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. |
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1 edit | Again, there are Group Policy objects that can be, and are, managed outside of Group Policy.
Beginning with SP2, the firewall exceptions became a managed object. This however does not mean that you have group policy. You cannot have Group Policy if you are using a non-Active Directory joined workstation; and it is completely unsupported under XP Home in any case.
Do not let the overlap between how policy objects are internally implemented, and managed, and Group Policy as a formal feature of the OS. They are not the same thing.
For example, using the Group Policy Editor (GPEDIT) in XP Pro is a big convenience. However, that is not implementing Group Policy. I can understand the confusion. Certainly the internals of the process are the same anytime one makes a registry tattoo that effects all user accounts on a computer. That is the internals of how Group Policy works as well. But these internal considerations do not add up to Group Policy as being active under XP Home.
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 dannyboy 950 Premium join:2002-12-30 Port Arthur, TX | Ahhhh thank you very much for the explanation. Please to forgive my confusion. Will not worry about this anymore. |
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