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RScottyL
join:2004-12-28
Irving, TX
 ·Verizon FIOS
| FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July From »www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/04/ru···in-july/ :
Although rumors from well respected forum posters give us a good reason to get excited, there's nothing quite like getting confirmation from the source. The linked PDF is the FiOS lineup that will be effective next month n Portland and includes 27 new HD channels not currently available to FiOS customers. As you might expect, Verizon had to really shuffle up the the lineup -- posted after the jump -- to add this many channels, which now includes just about every HD channel anyone would want; like eight premium movie channels and all the latest cable channels like Sci Fi HD and CNN HD. These new channels will really help propel FiOS from last to first in regards to HD quantity, by over doubling the number of HD channels offered. Unfortunately, there's no word on when the rest of the FiOS customers will have access to these channels, but if you live in a FiOS area, and the analog channels are already gone, there's a good chance they'll come sooner, rather than later.
USA – 550
TBS – 552
ESPNews – 572
Big Ten Network – 585
Versus/ Golf – 590
Outdoor – 591
CNN – 600
CNBC – 602
MSNBC – 603
The Weather Channel – 619
Science – 622
Smithsonian – 625
History – 628
Animal Planet – 630
TLC – 639
Lifetime West – 640
Lifetime Movie Network West – 642
Sci-Fi – 680
MOJO – 682
Bravo – 685
Starz Kids and Family – 841
Starz Comedy – 842
Starz Edge – 843
Showtime West – 866
Showtime 2 – 867
HBO West – 901
Cinemax West – 921 | |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
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join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July You forgot to mention that Indiana FiOS customers are to be first with the new channels / lineup at the end of this month. | |
| jwdv22
join:2008-01-15
Phoenixville, PA | See the forum thread started yesterday called Channel realignment.
It has a little more info and speculation  | |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
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join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by keyboards  :said by RScottyL :... which now includes just about every HD channel anyone would want; Not quite. Where's Speed Channel HD (you know Formula 1, Moto-GP, etc.)? How about FX ? I know, you were only quoting the article, but I had to disagree with the premise  I take "just about" to mean "not every"  | |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by darcilicious :said by keyboards :said by RScottyL :... which now includes just about every HD channel anyone would want; Not quite. Where's Speed Channel HD (you know Formula 1, Moto-GP, etc.)? How about FX ? I know, you were only quoting the article, but I had to disagree with the premise I take "just about" to mean "not every" Won't DirecTv still have more? By the end of the year FiOS should have more. These 25+ channels are a great start, but they certainly don't represent all the Hd channels. More HD channels will be launching over the next year which FiOs will hopefully add when they launch sicne DirecTv plans to add them too. | |
| bgtimber75
join:2006-06-23
Columbia, MD | Damn, still no SpeedHD. | |
| | birhat
Premium
join:2005-04-08
Laurel, MD | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July I second that | |
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GibM
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA
2 edits | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July I'm a little confused(old age ),but right now I count 30 hd here in lansdale,pa., I count 53 hd in that link from Fort Wayne,so that would be only 23 more.so what am i missing?Does the hd count vary from state to state?
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| | | | JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by Calabria :I'm a little confused(old age ),but right now I count 30 hd here in lansdale,pa., I count 52 hd in that link from Fort Wayne,so that would be only 22 more.so what am i missing?Does the hd count vary from state to state? Are you counting the Ft. Wayne locals in that? We get more locals in HD than Ft. Wayne does (8 vs. 4). Right now we have 30 HD channels in the Philly area (including locals and CSN Philly). Ft. Wayne has 26 (if I counted right). Which means that they are adding (according to that list) 26 new national HD channels. So in the Philly area we'll have 56 HD channels when we get them.
I actually think it's going to be a few more than that. I believe they're still in negotiation with these channel providers, and can't disclose that the channels will be available. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of HD we get will actually be 30 new ones (some prominent ones seem to be missing from that first list, which I expected to be there - FX, e.g., and Fox Business). | |
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA
1 edit | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July MY DO'H,I wasn't taking in account that locals differ from state to state.I hope the few more includes travel and military.
I will be set after the next wave in the fall.
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Acerone
join:2006-12-29
West Sayville, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| said by Calabria :I'm a little confused(old age ),but right now I count 30 hd here in lansdale,pa., I count 53 hd in that link from Fort Wayne,so that would be only 23 more.so what am i missing?Does the hd count vary from state to state? Here's a link with the listings.
»Re: New Channel Realignment | |
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JayMan 007
join:2005-07-18
Richmond, VA
| said by Calabria :I'm a little confused(old age ),but right now I count 30 hd here in lansdale,pa., I count 53 hd in that link from Fort Wayne,so that would be only 23 more.so what am i missing?Does the hd count vary from state to state? As someone said, you have more HD locals & RSNs than Ft. Wayne...
They currently have 4 Locals, 1 RSN, 16 National & 5 Premiums, for a total of 26.
There looks to be 20 New Nationals, and 7 New Premiums.
Looking at the PDF, I count 52 -- but I don't see The Movie Channel HD... | |
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July I'm surprised that the travel channel is missing. Isn't that part of the discovery set?
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join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by Calabria :I'm surprised that the travel channel is missing. Isn't that part of the discovery set? Me too. That's why I said I believe (nothing but naked speculation on my part) that the number will actually be higher than 26 or 27. It sounds like Verizon is still in negotiation with some of these providers. They may still be negotiating a rate for Travel HD... or it could have been a typo. I was also surprised to not see FX HD on there, or Fox Business HD - I know that last is a new channel, but Verizon said that they would carry it when they had the room.
I'm also surprised to only see an HD version of Smithsonian. Again, Verizon indicated that they would carry it both in SD and HD.
And now that they're going to have gobs of space to play with, there are a couple channels that I'd like to see them add (beyond the new HD channels). Things like NASA TV (which doesn't cost them anything to carry) and Chiller (especially since Chiller HD will be coming at some point). | |
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Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by JPL :I'm also surprised to only see an HD version of Smithsonian. Again, Verizon indicated that they would carry it both in SD and HD. I didn't think there was an SD version. (?)
Things like NASA TV Yes!
Right now I get it part time on a PEG, which is better than nothing, but not nearly good enough -- it tends to switch to local programming just at the moment when something interesting is about to happen.
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Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by wmcbrine :said by JPL :I'm also surprised to only see an HD version of Smithsonian. Again, Verizon indicated that they would carry it both in SD and HD. I didn't think there was an SD version. (?) Things like NASA TV Yes! Right now I get it part time on a PEG, which is better than nothing, but not nearly good enough -- it tends to switch to local programming just at the moment when something interesting is about to happen. Well, there's a Smithsonian SD feed on VOD. And when Verizon announced the addition of the channel, they specifically said both SD and HD versions. Maybe the SD version is coming later. | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by JPL :said by wmcbrine :said by JPL :I'm also surprised to only see an HD version of Smithsonian. Again, Verizon indicated that they would carry it both in SD and HD. I didn't think there was an SD version. (?) Things like NASA TV Yes! Right now I get it part time on a PEG, which is better than nothing, but not nearly good enough -- it tends to switch to local programming just at the moment when something interesting is about to happen. Well, there's a Smithsonian SD feed on VOD. And when Verizon announced the addition of the channel, they specifically said both SD and HD versions. Maybe the SD version is coming later. There is no SD version. They said they would carry VOD in SD & HD. Smithsonian is only available in HD. | |
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA
| When you talk about gobs of space, is that all to do with the analog deletion or is that a combination with upgrades?Also how much room do they actually have now,are they maxed out until more upgrades.Sorry about all the questions
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join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by Calabria :When you talk about gobs of space, is that all to do with the analog deletion or is that a combination with upgrades?Also how much room do they actually have now,are they maxed out until more upgrades.Sorry about all the questions I'll regurgitate some of the numbers that I've read on this forum and others. When Verizon is done with this expansion (eliminating analogs, and expanding out to the full 135 QAMs), they'll have a good amount of space. Based on the fact that Verizon runs MPEG-2, and the fact that they themselves don't do any additional compression, the numbers work out this way. Each QAM can carry 2 HD channels, or 9 - 10 SD digital channels.
Verizon has committed to 150 HD channels by end of the year. That works out to 75 QAMs. That leaves 60 for SD. Which comes out to nearly 600 SD channels. That's what I'm talking about.
Heck, the elimination of the analogs alone creates enough room for an additional 80 HD channels (they had slots for 40 analog channels per market). | |
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July so,they should have no problem reaching 150.Thanks for the info
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| FIOS MAN
join:2008-01-03
Pleasantville, NY | Are they getting rid of the music channels?? (600's) | |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
1 edit | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July No they're still very clearly listed in the PDF version which has the complete lineup. | |
| FIOS MAN
join:2008-01-03
Pleasantville, NY | Sorry...Didnt see the pdf lineup. Looks like that added some! Cant wait for the DVR problems when they reset the channels. | |
| | Mark F
join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July A news breif, on the first of July, could say "Telephone poles around Fort Wayne burst into flames. Details at 11". But, impossible scenarios aside, this could be viewed as a good time to do this, as the regular TV season is over. But, people still have series recordings going on and that's something that will have to be addressed.
And, the new season of Stargate: Atlantis starts in early July, so I hope people around here will know that it'll now be on Ch. 180.
This would also be a good time to impliment a "search by channel" feature in the guide, especially with so much more programming to wade through and channels to surf. But, I'm not holding my breath.
Hopefully, Verizon will send us all a info pack with everything we need to know about the June 30th changes. Or, our Verizon phone lines will be burning up on July 1st. Even if the poles don't catch fire. Mark F. | |
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join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July I believe the series recordings are based on channel name, not number, so they should be ok. | |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | said by FIOS MAN :Sorry...Didnt see the pdf lineup. Looks like that added some! Cant wait for the DVR problems when they reset the channels. More reason to get a TiVoHD. No problems with shuffling of channels, things still record as they should. And my guide data has always been populated on the day the channel is added. | |
| | | jwdv22
join:2008-01-15
Phoenixville, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by aaronwt :said by FIOS MAN :Sorry...Didnt see the pdf lineup. Looks like that added some! Cant wait for the DVR problems when they reset the channels. More reason to get a TiVoHD. No problems with shuffling of channels, things still record as they should. And my guide data has always been populated on the day the channel is added. Seriously, I don't know what is worse, the comcast people chiming in whenever something doesn't work correctly, or the Tivo people. "Another reason to get Tivo,"blah blah blah... Who cares? | |
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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by jwdv22 :said by aaronwt :said by FIOS MAN :Sorry...Didnt see the pdf lineup. Looks like that added some! Cant wait for the DVR problems when they reset the channels. More reason to get a TiVoHD. No problems with shuffling of channels, things still record as they should. And my guide data has always been populated on the day the channel is added. Seriously, I don't know what is worse, the comcast people chiming in whenever something doesn't work correctly, or the Tivo people. "Another reason to get Tivo,"blah blah blah... Who cares? Obviously you. Otherwie you wouldn't have responded to the post.
But I'm also a Comcast person, TiVo person and FiOS person. I have all four FiOS/Verizon services, Comcast TV, and seven TiVos(3 Series 3, 4 TiVoHD) connected to FiOS, Comcast and OTA signals. | |
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join:2008-01-15
Phoenixville, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July Sorry to keep off topic but this is a FIOS forum not a Tivo forum. It is like having a Ford Car forum trolled with Chevy salesmen or saleswomen. Telling people to get a Tivo is irrelevant. It is not cost effective to me and a lot of other people. What does Tivo have to do with "FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July"? Nothing, so why do people with Tivo always feel the need to tell people to get a tivo. I am sure it is a great product, but I am not paying a monthly fee for it. I just want VZ to fix the product I am already paying for and for the most part they are.
Sorry about that. Maybe I am just cranky because I want me HDTV. | |
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join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by jwdv22 :Sorry about that. Maybe I am just cranky because I want me HDTV. All of us HD viewers are getting cranky waiting for the HD expansion. It has been and will be a long wait. | |
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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
3 edits | said by jwdv22 :Sorry to keep off topic but this is a FIOS forum not a Tivo forum. It is like having a Ford Car forum trolled with Chevy salesmen or saleswomen. Telling people to get a Tivo is irrelevant. It is not cost effective to me and a lot of other people. What does Tivo have to do with "FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July"? Nothing, so why do people with Tivo always feel the need to tell people to get a tivo. I am sure it is a great product, but I am not paying a monthly fee for it. I just want VZ to fix the product I am already paying for and for the most part they are. Sorry about that. Maybe I am just cranky because I want me HDTV. I guess we are all cranky. It's been 7 years since I started recording and watching HD and I'm still waiting for more HD content. The sooner analog is gone the better.
And you are already paying a monthly fee if you use a FiOS STB. I would just rather pay a fee to use a box that I know works well instead of for one I know doesn't work very well( at least when those two boxes are compared. If you comapare the Motorola to a Scientific Atlanta box, then they are both bad. At least from my experience and the people I know that use the Motorola and SA boxes).
Anyway back on topic. I got an automated call this evening from FiOS that mentioned them getting rid of the Analog channels next month and adding more channels later. They didn't give me a specific date though. | |
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join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July I agree, people who expected certain channels to be broadcasting/cablecasting in HD by now, and those channels are still SD only, are unhappy. But, more channels are coming, soon, both SD and HD. And, by the end of this year or early next (an excruciatingly long time for some), there will be even more than that. Enabling the FIOS DVRs and STBs to go to 2,000 channels means that they are serious about that. Still, there will always be folks that will complain that they can't watch the Chinese Checkers Channel or the Nude Needlepoint Network (In HD, of course).
I really like HD. However, there are many people, and I am one of them, who won't forsake a favorite show just because it's in SD, although I am a bit more picky. When I watch an older show, i try to record only the episodes that I really want to see again. But, the generic descriptions in the guide- "Magnum PI. A former Naval officer agrees to provide security for a millionaire in exchange for living on his estate while doing private investigation work on the side" as the IMG says- offers very little help.
I like many things, both old and new, But, even if they offer many channels I don't or won't watch, I'm sure that there are other people who will. That is the real power of FIOS, offering something for everyone.
So, although I'm not into the roar of the crowd and crack of the bat or hushed tones and fairway action, others may not be into watching Deep Purple in concert from 1968, Columbo from 1974 or Blade Runner from 1983. Mark F | |
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join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX
·Verizon FIOS
| I'm moving to a place on the 13th of June that is FiOS-enabled in Denton, TX. I read somewhere on here that the Texas and Florida FiOS networks would not get these HD channels in July but rather later in 2008. Is there a reason for this? When should I expect my market to be able to receive those HD channels? | |
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join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by darcilicious :said by mobbo : I read somewhere on here that the Texas and Florida FiOS networks would not get these HD channels in July but rather later in 2008. Is there a reason for this? When should I expect my market to be able to receive those HD channels? They're rolling out new HDs market by market, somebody has to be last but it's likely because from what we can deduce, the HDs come after the analog channels (2-49) are removed. TX and FL are apparently last in line for that. See: » *Master Topic* FiosTV Going 100% Digital/All Markets for the supposed schedule for analog channel removal. Yes, that's right. They need to remove the analogs to create the room for these HD channels. They're doing that market by market (in addition, as they're eliminating analogs, they're expanding their network to handle yet more programming). Without this expansion, they don't have the room to add the new channels. Unforutnately TX is one of the last states (may actually BE the last state - I don't remember) to get upgraded. | |
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Midak
Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | Any clues as to when NY will get these? | |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY | Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July Late July | |
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA
| darcilicious will probably yell at me again,but I'm in lansdale,pa and analog shutdown is 6/13.So are we in line for hd in july and has anybody read of when in july?
Be gentle darcilicious
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join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| said by Calabria :darcilicious will probably yell at me again,but I'm in lansdale,pa and analog shutdown is 6/13.So are we in line for hd in july and has anybody read of when in july? Be gentle darcilicious Not to nitpick, but shut-down for the Philly area is 6/23, not 6/13. I take it that's the date that they START analog shut-down, is that correct? We have a pretty large VHO, so it wouldn't surprise me if it took a little while. I'm hoping for end of July for the new channels, but I'm betting it'll be early/mid August. | |
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Calabria
join:2007-11-06
Lansdale, PA | I said this before,but I wish they just had to flip a big grey switch to shut the analog off and flip the blue switch to turn the hd on 
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| | Baff
join:2007-12-05
Murrieta, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by Calabria :I said this before,but I wish they just had to flip a big grey switch to shut the analog off and flip the blue switch to turn the hd on I suspect Verizon wishes the same thing. | |
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Gordo74
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Monroeville, PA
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| So, if I am reading this right, the new HD channels wont come in until AFTER the analog shuts off? (Fed 2009 here). If so, that would suck ass.
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| | JPL
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join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: FiOS TV to add 27 new HD channels in July said by Gordo74 :So, if I am reading this right, the new HD channels wont come in until AFTER the analog shuts off? (Fed 2009 here). If so, that would suck ass. No... that's not correct. You're confusing two different events. There's the OTA shut-off for analog that's happening in Feb. But that doesn't effect cable. Verizon is getting rid of its own analog channels. That's going on right now. For example, in the Philly area, we're set to lose our analogs next week.
At the same time, Verizon is expanding the bandwidth for their TV feed. We (again, in the Philly area) should be getting these new channels (hopefully) in August. | |
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