N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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Re: Last mile will kill them
I doubt the spectrum will exist to push high def VOD, 50 MBPS symmetrical internet and phone down a NLOS wireless solution in the next 5, let alone 10 years. Someone could make some incredible breakthrough in compression algorithms or come up with some snazzy new transmission mode, but there is NOTHING on God's green earth that will provide the bandwidth and upgrade ability of FTTH.
Verizon may very well be laying out upwards of $900 for a triple play install, but they will get that money back. Verizon knows it, and that's why they're talking about expanding their deployment.
With a decrease in land line revenue, Fios is a "deploy or die" gamble for Verizon. They have to move into TV to assure their revenue stream.
Besides, there's more benefit to deploying FTTH than just the revenue. Once uptake reaches a certain percentage of CO customers, you know Verizon will be looking to decommission or sell off their copper plant.
The maintenance and troubleshooting of a fiber network is much easier and cheaper than on a copper network.
A certain cadre of members here seem to constantly bash Verizon's FTTH efforts. Now, I'm not going to sit here and have a love in for Verizon. They screwed us ( the people of Pennsylvania) out of a sack of money the size of Veterans Stadium by way of tax breaks.
But, I must applaud them for having the vision to be the only incumbent provider to see that FTTH is the future, and spend the money doing it.
As the Fios creeps ever closer to my front door (only about 2 miles away now, WOO HOO) I know for sure the moment I find that hanger on my door, I'm signing up.
Even if it's just to get Comcast out of my life, I'm on board.
Verizon has done a fantastic job with both the technical and marketing aspects of Fios. They built an effective brand that people seem to have a high regard for, and I think they're going to make a lot of money.
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Dogfather
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2 edits | If that is the case (no reasonable alternative to last mile fiber) they'll have no choice but to sell off rural systems. Or they do U-Verse style offering or pure IPTV in those areas where last-mile doesn't have the same FTTH capacity.
There's no ROI on a $20,000 per home install or whatever sick amount of money it'll cost to do deployments in very rural areas. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by N3OGH  :I doubt the spectrum will exist to push high def VOD, 50 MBPS symmetrical internet and phone down a NLOS wireless solution in the next 5, let alone 10 years. It can be done, crank up the SNR to the point where a bird will fall down dead if it flys in the path of the directional antenna on your house. When you find the dead bird in your yard, you can call the kids over b/c you have some fried chicken now. You will experiance packet loss while the bird cooks. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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Philly burbs | MMMMMM, delicious packet loss.... |
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lvlorpheus
join:2008-02-17
Eureka Springs, AR
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So are you saying two of the most profitable companies in this country in the past century never made their investment back in rural America. Or are you saying it is not worth investing in all Americans unless you can get a return on your investment in a few quarters or years.
A Brief History: Origins
»www.corp.att.com/history/history1.html
The AT&T Corp., formerly known as the American Telephone and Telegraph Corporation, is as old as the telephone itself. The company that became AT&T began in 1875, in an arrangement among inventor Alexander Graham Bell and the two men, Gardiner Hubbard and Thomas Sanders, who agreed to finance his work. Bell was trying to invent a talking telegraph -- a telephone. He succeeded, earning patents in 1876 and 1877.
This is a good read too.
»verizonpathetic.com/historylesson.html
And after all of this the poor phone companies lost money for their investment in rural America. Is that what I am to believe. |
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