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Jeffrey
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Per Gig usage, no newsgroups...

My exgirlfriend's brother's uncle's sister's father works for TW and they said that later this year they'll also be discontinuing e-mail accounts, and bricking everyone's modem.

They will, however, continue to give you a bill every month.

Ah well, I kid, I kid. I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. I'm actually suprised ISPs still carried Usenet, specifically the binary groups. I don't know how many people this will really impact overall; I'm sure some people here will be effected, but in the grand scheme of things, I dont know. Not one of my coworkers even knows what Usenet is.
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v35_pilot
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said by Jeffrey:

I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years.
TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days.


rcdailey
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reply to Jeffrey
It's my feeling that most people will not even notice. Between sites like this which offer forums, plus blogs that are popping up all over, the need for newsgroups to share information is nearly gone. Some may say, "What about binaries?" Well, there are many sites on the web that offer binaries. So, there is no longer any marketing value in offering free usenet. Where there is no marketing value in a feature, you can bet it will be removed.



Jeffrey
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said by v35_pilot:

said by Jeffrey:

I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years.
TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days.
It was that bad, eh? I had Optimum Online from 1999 to mid=-2005, and from 2002 to 2005, newsgroup completion was almost as terrible, and the download speeds were like 50KB/sec. On 10mbit/1mbit at the time too.

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And so castles made of sand, slip into the sea, eventually.

I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.


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reply to v35_pilot

said by v35_pilot:

said by Jeffrey:

I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years.
TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days.
Wrong. They recently switched earlier this year to outsourcing to Newshosting and there retention shot up to about 100 days. They actually had a pretty good thing going on for there subscribers.
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said by swintec:

Wrong. They recently switched earlier this year to outsourcing to Newshosting and there retention shot up to about 100 days. They actually had a pretty good thing going on for there subscribers.
Um, no, my comment *wasn't* wrong, since at the period that I was a TW customer from 1998 to 2005 retention rate and completeness were INDEED that bad. If what you are typing is true (and I have no reason not to believe it) then TW has IMPROVED their service drastically only over the last year. Short lived improvement, given this news item though.

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said by Jeffrey:

said by v35_pilot:

said by Jeffrey:

I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years.
TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days.
It was that bad, eh? I had Optimum Online from 1999 to mid=-2005, and from 2002 to 2005, newsgroup completion was almost as terrible, and the download speeds were like 50KB/sec. On 10mbit/1mbit at the time too.

I have both cablevision and TWC(home and school respectively). Cablevision retention is still poor(i think about a week for two for completes) and is now 120KB/s. TWCs used to be as bad as you say, but about a year ago, they outsourced the newsgroups. Since then its been between 400KBps to 800KBps with 99 day retention for me.


dvd536
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reply to swintec

said by swintec:

said by v35_pilot:

said by Jeffrey:

I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years.
TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days.
Wrong. They recently switched earlier this year to outsourcing to Newshosting and there retention shot up to about 100 days. They actually had a pretty good thing going on for there subscribers.
Newshosting is highwinds. nuff said about how crappy anyone that uses them are.
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Jeffrey
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said by dvd536:

Newshosting is highwinds. nuff said about how crappy anyone that uses them are.
I'm not sure I understand your statement. It could be because I'm drunk.

I've used Newshosting for almost 3 years now (I think), and that was after a stint with Usenetserver and Giganews. Usenetserver's completion rate was terrible for a 6 month period, which is when I switched to Newshosting and never looked back. Giganews capped me which is why I switched to Usenetserver. (Yes, from GN, I had been downloading 300GB/moonth or more, and they decided that a few months of that was enough.)

Did you not like Newshosting?
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And so castles made of sand, slip into the sea, eventually.

I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.


relic211

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I've used Newshosting for almost 3 years now (I think), and that was after a stint with Usenetserver and Giganews. Usenetserver's completion rate was terrible for a 6 month period, which is when I switched to Newshosting and never looked back. Giganews capped me which is why I switched to Usenetserver. (Yes, from GN, I had been downloading 300GB/moonth or more, and they decided that a few months of that was enough.)

Did you not like Newshosting?

Newshosting set up a RR-only server that was pathetic. NH referred requests/complaints to RR and RR referred you to NH.


swebsurf

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reply to v35_pilot
although the ride is over, this statement is not true. they did something early in the year that stretched retention to 100 days. although the header retention was only 30 days, if you created nzb files from Newzbin, you could get reliable completion rate binaries as old as 100 days from TWC. -sigh-

now looking for a reliable newsgroup server...


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