Re: market seppuku? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20596675 en Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:58:59 EDT Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:58:59 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20598418 nydwarf1 : Maybe the people should decide to enact a law that if you own a cable company you cannot run the internet side. You will have to sell this to another operator. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20598418 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:12:29 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20596795 insomniac84 : The hell it won't. Comcast is already lowering the bandwidth(CAPPING!) of HD channels to cram more channels in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20596795 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:48:10 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20596675 JamesPC : Fix your network if you cant give what you promise. Or just give us what you can actually deliver. I have a 10mbps D but if you cant do that then give me 7mbps and don't cap it. This is ALL about "eliminating video competition".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20596675 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:28:37 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20596052 richardak :
said by maartena See Profile :

said by gaforces See Profile :

Yep, around here comcast and charter have the county divided, only choice is dish or to move.
Your TV won't be capped. This is about internet.... You could move to DSL for instance. I would much rather have a 6/768 (the maximum DSL I can get) with no limitations then my current 10/1 line if they decide to cap it.
I'm tired of you people that think DSL is always an option. DSL is only an option if you live close to a CO. As the OP said, it's either COX or TW for them (or the crap offered via satellite, which can't really be considered an option).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20596052 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:34:05 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20595950 anon : There are only 2 reasons for TWC's plan for caps:

1. eliminate any competing video competition online.

2. profit, profit, profit!

As was stated in the article above... 40 gigs of bandwidth is 2-3 dollars *at most*, in actual cost. Comcast's proposed number (250GB) is *MUCH* more reasonable, and just goes to show that bandwidth, while a variable cost, is still quite cheap.

How else can you explain the explosion of video content sites now on the internet. The whole reason Youtube, and all the other video sites out there now exist is because bandwidth costs dropped to the point where it's profitable to stream video online.

If there is any issue with bandwidth overload it has more to do with local node congestion rather than the capacity and cost of service back at the headend. Docsis 3.0 is going to fix some of the current throughput limitations of the current Docsis spec, so local node congestion should be eased, and that's right around the corner, assuming cable companies are willing to upgrade (and I don't just mean competitive areas!)

In the end, it's really hard to feel bad for TWC, as with most broadband ISP's, they are making very comfortable profits. Just look at the front page... TWC is cutting off newsgroup access, they are just cutting off all their arms and legs to save a penny here and a dime there. It's all a mad run for money, but of course they aren't going to tell you that.

I'm certainly not endorsing reckless bandwidth consumption or anything of the like... but if you really knew how much TWC stands to gain in profit on your behalf of using bandwidth, you would probably be upset too. It would be the same as me telling you that gasoline only costs 20 cents a gallon to refine, transport, market and sell... so why are you paying $4.00 a gallon for it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20595950 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:16:15 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20595534 maartena :
said by gaforces See Profile :

Yep, around here comcast and charter have the county divided, only choice is dish or to move.
Your TV won't be capped. This is about internet.... You could move to DSL for instance. I would much rather have a 6/768 (the maximum DSL I can get) with no limitations then my current 10/1 line if they decide to cap it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20595534 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:55:45 EDT Re: market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20595138 gaforces : Yep, around here comcast and charter have the county divided, only choice is dish or to move.

Looks like TW is jealous of the oil industry's gouging and want to do some of their own.

It's my party and I can gouge if I want to, gouge if I want to ...
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There is no greater sign of a general decay of virtue in a nation, than a want of zeal in its inhabitants for the good of their country. ~ Joseph Addison]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20595138 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:38:03 EDT market seppuku? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20594993 anon : Only if there is competition. Where I live the cable companies have divided the city. You are either in a Cox area or a Comcast. The only option you have if you want another provider is to move.

As long as monopolistic cable contracts are allowed by cities, you will never see competition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20594993 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:10:58 EDT