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Anti Rootkit

@co.uk
reply to Karl Bode
Re: ...Nationality

phorm is a US company registered in Delaware. The principal officers and developers are Russian.


knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·AT&T DSL Service

reply to Karl Bode
Fight Back

See my signature for a link to generate data to pollute their product. As was pointed out on Slashdot, I'm sure they can ignore the invalid domains, so that's why I recommend using the "mix with fake sites" option.

Due to this, I may end up tweaking the anti site a little to include an option of "just use all real sites" and put a little link on the page to "suggest a site" to add into the random rotation.

All the suggested links will have to be checked first (in case someone gets a funny idea to use a phishing/hack site or a site with their own personal referral number). But since it's all client accessed, they won't be able to stop the pollution attack short of just banning your IP from the list to watch (would that be so terrible of a ban list that they quit watching you? )
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Fight NebuAD and the like:
Click Here to pollute their data


HEDP

join:2008-04-27
Miami, FL

reply to Karl Bode
Re: ...

Pretty much a little bit of both. I am on a Charter line as I write this to you. Coming from the underground there are many ways to keep track of consumer information, and this is simply doing it on a large scale.

You can start with any basic home network and simply expand from that little branch into many sections where data can travel without a user knowing other than some behavior patterns done by packet inspections.

If these companies are so out of shape that they need to enforce caps and have network capacity issues, one month of consumers not paying their bills or simply cancel their service will bring a major blow to a companies financial table. If these issues where so important, someone would of started another ISP.

The problem is that how the internet works, if one person has it, it does not really matter who else get's it. Any traffic between peering points will be logged, and copied. So the moment AT&T did what they where doing, everyone who traveled through AT&T's backbone has been affected and with such a massive backbone they have, I am sure just getting to this website I have traveled through their network.

Someone with a small understanding of basic TCP/IP will know that there is always a trace. Since data can be intercepted or seen so easily traveling through the network, a basic tool such as a lan sniffer is all you really need to do in order to see.

The man is no mastermind, but he can cause a lot of damage. Why bother attacking the OS after all, that's becoming hard now with Vista and Mac. Just attack the network directly by selling a product that is useful to ISPs but at the same time useful information for identity thieves.

By the way Karl, I just hope that you let nobody change your mind and speak in what you believe in. I speak what I believe in even though nobody really agrees with me, but that's the nature of being true to yourself and others.

The internet is the biggest P2P network their is, anyone who tells you something different is a liar, and should be buried alive. Don't let AT&T and Verizon control the internet gates to the rest of the world, that's all I really ask of you.


Karl Bode
News Guy
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reply to HEDP
This isn't the first time that a British rootkit developer changed their name, became a behavioral advertising developer, conned all of Britain into thinking they had changed their stripes and were selling anti-phishing software, and then triggered a global privacy firestorm?

Or do you mean it's not the first time a sleazy group has continued to show sleazy tendencies? Because if the latter, yes I agree.


HEDP

join:2008-04-27
Miami, FL
"A former rootkit developer secretly buying your browsing history under the guise of an anti-phishing solution? What could go wrong?"

This isn't the first time it has happened or is happening currently. You shouldn't be surprised.
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