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Re: And all this time.....
said by MysticGogeta  :One word describes him. GREEDY And I thought everyone here was concerned about THE ARTISTS getting their money. Well here is one who is and still people aren't happy. Maybe, just maybe, people want their music for free, and they don't care if ANYONE gets paid for it.
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james
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| said by TKJunkMail :And I thought everyone here was concerned about THE ARTISTS getting their money. Well here is one who is and still people aren't happy. Maybe, just maybe, people want their music for free, and they don't care if ANYONE gets paid for it. That clown is just another middle man trying to soak up money without contributing anything to the art.
The only people losing money due to piracy are the Recording Industry pricks. The majority of artists barely see a fraction of the revenue from record sales, and rely on concerts and Tshirt sales to make their money, which piracy actually HELPS because piracy is in essence free worldwide distribution and promotion of the band and its songs. |
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rahvin112
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Bono blames piracy for how poorly his last album sold. The recording industry convinced him it wasn't that his last album was a piece of crap, it's that everyone stole it. He's such an ego maniac he actually believes that is the reason. His last album did poorly because it was garbage. He's a self righteous idiot that actually thinks he's more important than anyone else. Listen to some of the other things he's said, not just the snippets the music industry gives the press as sound bites and you will see the truth of it. |
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Jason Levine
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We are concerned about the artists. However, that doesn't mean we can't disagree with a ridiculous opinion that an artist has or an outrageous proposal that an artist makes.
Common Carrier law states that the ISPs aren't responsible for illegal actions taken on their lines provided that they take reasonable steps to stop those actions once alerted to it. So if a file is being shared illegally, the recording industry notifies the ISP (via a DMCA letter - the one good part of the DMCA) and the ISP then takes down the material. ISP is in the clear. (Of course, the poster can protest the letter, etc, but the important part is that the ISP doesn't have any liability.)
If we drop common carrier status, then not only will the ISPs have to pay the music industry money for piracy that goes over their lines, but they'll need to pay the movie industry. And TV industry. And book industry (might be scanned books). And software industry. As the fines pile up, ISPs will eventually be forced to shut down.
And it's not just ISPs. Website operators will be forced to shut down. Let's say someone makes a post here and includes an MP3 of a copyrighted song. Justin would get a DMCA letter telling him to take it down. He would (I'm guessing) and all would be fine.
Without common carrier, though, Justin would be liable for anything anyone posted. If I posted an MP3 illegally here, he could be facing multi-million dollar fines. The prospect of some random user causing you huge financial difficulty or even bankruptcy would result in many websites closing down.
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