Amr
Pointing out the obvious
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50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10 | and by 2010 it'll be 100mbit with a 50GB cap =P |
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wifi4milez
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Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
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said by Amr  :50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible. even more horrible is 50Mbps at $150/mo.; the only people that would pay for that are likely to be power users.
throw in the cap, which will only be reached quicker at 50Mbps, and I can see people saying "why bother".
seems to be contradictory things going on in the broadband business. |
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nasadude
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said by wifi4milez :.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. .. caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring. |
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wifi4milez
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| said by nasadude :said by wifi4milez :.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. .. caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring. Thats your opinion, however my statement that most sites cant be accessed any faster (on a 50Mbps connection) is an irrefutable fact. Each time DSLR reports about faster internet speeds there is inevitably an avalanche of "now I can reach the cap faster" posts. I am simply looking to point out that with the exception of piracy, most "normal" websites will behave in the same manor, and thus your caps wont be reached any quicker.
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scrummie02
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Actually that's false.
More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet.
Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def.
So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content.
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Matt
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| said by scrummie02 :Actually that's false. More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet. Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def. So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content. I agree. I can tell the difference in my 15Mbps connection and a Time Warner 5Mbps connection ... even though latency is about the same. |
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ninjatutle
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Yeah, but they're still the BMW of the interweb. |
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wifi4milez
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said by scrummie02 :Actually that's false. More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet. Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def. So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content. Well, you raise an interesting argument. First let me say that when it comes to streaming content, you can only watch that content as fast as it is meant to be displayed. This means that even if you have a 10Gbps pipe the movie wont play any faster, so there will be no difference between between 3Mbps end user or a 50Mbps end user. Yes, sites are pushing more media content from their websites but unless you want to watch/listen to it in "fast forward mode" the extra bandwidth wont do anything for you. Neflix, Joost, and Hulu will provide exactly the same end user experience whether you have a 50Mbps connection or a 3Mbps connection (aside from the content loading slightly quicker).
Contrary to popular belief, online games hardly use any bandwidth. In fact, most dont use much more than a few VoIP calls worth at a given time (if that). Again, an online player with a 50Mbps connection wont notice any difference over that of a 768k player. With online games, its latency that matters and bandwidth has absolutely nothing to do with it.
As for purchasing/downloading HD movies from places like Xbox live, that too is irrelevant. To begin with, you need to pay for that content so its not like you are going to be downloading 24/7. Secondly, you plan on watching those movies at some point, right? The fact remains that a 2 hour HD movie will still take 2 hours to watch, regardless of how long it takes you to download it. Also, the Xbox site (and the Xbox itself) might not even be able to properly manage a 100Mbps request at this point in time (since nobody has them yet), so the who argument is moot.
Dont get me wrong, having more bandwidth is a good thing. My point is that other than people who are pirating (fill in the blank), the vast majority of end users wont be reaching their caps any quicker than they are now. The infrastructure of most sites simply wont allow it.
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Sturm
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I can download video content at that speed from LEGAL pay sites.
Your comment is ignorant. |
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Cabal
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Comcast doesn't have caps. |
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jmn1207
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said by wifi4milez :Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases. Doesn't anyone have a family or perhaps a roommate or two? This does not have to be just one computer utilizing this bandwidth. Geez, it only takes a couple of teenagers to bog down a network. This increased bandwidth may not be necessary for a single user, but anyone with a home network and multiple users might find the increases to be a godsend. |
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Matt
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| said by jmn1207 :said by wifi4milez :Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases. Doesn't anyone have a family or perhaps a roommate or two? This does not have to be just one computer utilizing this bandwidth. Geez, it only takes a couple of teenagers to bog down a network. This increased bandwidth may not be necessary for a single user, but anyone with a home network and multiple users might find the increases to be a godsend. That's what I was thinking. YouTube, gaming, VoIP, and horribly inefficient sites like Facebook and MySpace ... having more bandwidth helps.
Not to mention upstarts like Hulu, the DTV Roku, AppleTV, etc. |
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wifi4milez
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said by jmn1207 :Geez, it only takes a couple of teenagers to bog down a network. No question, but if you review my original statement I said that this shouldnt effect anyone NOT stealing content. What exactly is it you think the teenagers who "bog down the network" are doing?? (Hint: Its not homework!)
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DrModem
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Lies. |
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wifi4milez
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said by Sturm :
I can download video content at that speed from LEGAL pay sites.
Your comment is ignorant.
Yes you can, but you will need to pay for it so you wont leave you connection running 24/7 like people do with Bit Torrent. Also, unless you are unemployed you can only watch so many movies in a given period of time. There comes a point that the number of movies you can download exceeds the amount of free time you have to watch them. This effectively negates any "benefit" you gain from downloading them quicker.
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Matt
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| said by wifi4milez :said by Sturm :
I can download video content at that speed from LEGAL pay sites.
Your comment is ignorant.
Yes you can, but you will need to pay for it so you wont leave you connection running 24/7 like people do with Bit Torrent. Also, unless you are unemployed you can only watch so many movies in a given period of time. There comes a point that the number of movies you can download exceeds the amount of free time you have to watch them. This effectively negates any "benefit" you gain from downloading them quicker. Actually, no it does not. Being able to download them faster allows things like instant start to watch the movie while it's downloading, or gives you the ability to start watching the movie faster if you have to download the whole thing ... if I can download a movie in 20-30 minutes, rather than 24 hours, that's a better product to me. A higher speed allows this. |
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C_
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False  bears, beets, battlestar galactica
Online gaming barely takes up any bandwidth, latency is far more important
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Not true, I can access content on Steam at my full speed allowed by Comcast. Whenever I buy a new game from them and start the download, I max out (way over 3) the entire transfer.
You don't have to be a copyright infringer for Comcast to not want you to use your bandwidth. They hate all customers equally.  |
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