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JALevinworth

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reply to Snowy

Re: [Scam] Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires Infomercial

said by Snowy:

Two possibilities for morrison's lack of presence at an event that has his name on it come to mind.
1. He's franchised the spiel.
2. He's under the regulatory microscope.
Just guesses.

OOO, OOO, OOO!! I'll take what's behind curtain number 2, Monty!!

*praying it's not the donkey*


OSH

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I was curious about this since they are doing seminars here in Hawaii at the end of the month. I work with people to help them set up real online stores so when I saw this I freaked. But at further look maybe I will just create a detailed online video course, create postcards and hand them out to folks leaving the seminar (Hi, you can spend $4,000 now, or for $9.99/Free take my course and see how it compares). Spend a morning down in Waikiki. Prequalified leads...


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reply to sivran

Re: [Scam] Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires Infomercial

the storefront is easy. You need a product to sell.
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Ms Robinson

@aol.com

These people won't let you say NO to them!

After attending a seminar of Anthony Morrison's Intenet opportunity in Newport Beach, CA, I was not interested in paying for their internet service information classes. What I realized was that they were teaching people was was already available to others by simply being aware of today's advanced computer technologies.

First of all, their lecture lasted more than 2.5 hours before they served their "dinner," which was really a bagged sandwich and cookie. They served no coffee or beverage to a room filled with prospective client/custumer - water was provided at the table where we sat. Serving a meal like that after a long lecture like that, and as soon as you finish the last bite, and they to have them pressure you for payment immediately was greedy and aggressive. Many people just got up and left their "bag" of food on the table untouched.

The lecture was interesting and innovating. The men sifted through every person there, aiming for groups of two or more who appeared to be willing to put their suggested 3-day course on a credit card. I stayed around and listened to them talking to these people, yet really felt that in my field the type of service they were offering would not benefit me. As I was leaving I was approached again, at which time I was told that if I put $1,000 on a credit card right now that I could have the same seminar! As I left the hotel, I felt lucky that I did not pay Morrison's company a penny.

After one telephone call from a lady two weeks after the meeting, it is now nearly two months later and I was barraged by three phone calls within less than 20 minutes. A man named Shawn called, and I tried to explain that I had decided against the program they offered and for them to please stop calling me. He wouldn't let me talk, told me I was yelling at him, and that he would call me again. I called back the number he'd dialed me from and left a message asking him never to call me again or I would call the Better Business Bureau. He again called me, angrily telling me that I had yelled at him. I again asked him to never call me again. Then a supervisor called me and acted similarly, cutting off every word I began to say.

I have asked this company to stop harassing me, that I do not want their service. They do not like being told NO. I am not saying that their service is credible or not, I just feel that the manner in which their aggressive workers pressure people into signing up with them is improper. They do not let people assess the lecture for what it is; instead the Anthony Morrison group of solicitors want you to listen to them and pay them. If you don't, they don't like it. They continue to call and harass you.

From reading other postings, apparently people are unhappy with what they spent their money on. Think about all this before you go for the lecture.


curious

@comcast.net
reply to Doctor Four

Re: [Scam] Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires Infomercial

Fact: The price of his seminar in 2012 (taught by his brother) is $2990. At that price, you can bring a friend, making it approx. $1500 to attend. You also get a set of CDs of the seminar so you can review it or share with others.

A clause in the contract states that you agree to not disparage the company. That may be why those who have attended the seminar have not chimed in.

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said by curious :

A clause in the contract states that you agree to not disparage the company. That may be why those who have attended the seminar have not chimed in.

They cannot be contractually obligated to give up their Constitutionally protected right of free speech, that would be unenforceable. What a piece of work that Morrison is!


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recoach

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I have some of his stuff and it works good. Im not making millions but better than the other people that hand out cards they made from their basement saying they can do better. If you really could do better, why would you need to play off of someones free event? Why couldn't you get your own leads online yourself?? 3k compared to 9$. You get what you pay for I guess.


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said by recoach :

3k compared to 9$. You get what you pay for I guess.

You guess wrong.
That is unless paying 3 thousand dollars to get on telemarketer's sucker lists is getting your moneys worth.
Getting people to pay for the opportunity to be persuaded to dump even more money into the "training" hole whose bottom is only reached when the victims smarten up or run out of money is not giving someone their moneys worth, it's taking their worth, every last cent that can be 'coached' out of them.


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reply to recoach
said by recoach :

I have some of his stuff and it works good.

Post copies of your commission checks or it didn't happen. You can blank out the personal info and account numbers to show that you made money with AM.
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imarketer

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reply to Doctor Four
While I completely agree that Morrison is dishonest and his "product" is a scam, what are people really expecting? People who sign up for his seminars are just looking to make easy money. Morrison is driven by greed, but his "customers" are driven by greed as well. It's a sad state of affairs in this country when people are too lazy to get off the couch and put in real, honest work, but they are willing buy into some unknown system that promises them easy money with little to no effort. Then they get upset that the greedy Morrison took their money.

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Right, let's blame the victims.

Naivete is not the same as out and out dishonesty. Morrison knows he's scalping people out of their last bit of cash, the victims are only hoping that "that internet thing" holds the promise of a way to make some money. That's what Morrison just about promises in his come-on.

The people who fall for it may be unemployed, fell ill and lost their money to medical bills or otherwise had a bad time. Blaming them for "greed" as a way to equate them to the criminal intent of Morrison is just plain wrong.
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Mzskeptical

join:2012-11-14
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reply to Doctor Four

Re: [Scam] Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires Infomercial

I can not entirely say that Anthony or this system is a total scam, but what I will say is that it is misleading at 1st glance. I've never attended one of Anthony's seminars but I did order his system offline. I was watching the infomercial on late night tv as you know, because that's when they usually do there preying and advertise these false shows of HOPE. Initially I was curious and also a bit skeptical, so I sat on the information for a while. A while later I saw an email in my in box also pertaining to the Anthony system. At this point i was desperate, out of options and needed cash bad. So I ordered the system for $19.95, thinking that was all I had to pay in order to learn to make money online. Boy was I in for a rude awakening. Once I purchased the system and was given access to the site, I later discovered that I needed more money that I didn't have. You have to pay for website building, advertising, hosting and traffic direction to your site. That's hundreds of dollars extra that you have to pay for this system. Correct me if I'm wrong but, it would seem like the people needing this system would be the ones that are financially challenged not the already rich and successful. In an economy like today its hard enough just to get by, with mortgage, car note, utility bills etc. It's almost impossible to spend this type of money on a system that you would be taking a chance on, so who does that leave in the winning corner. The rich get richer while everyone else just barely get by. There are people that don't have jobs and not because they are lazy and don't want to work. It's because it is almost impossible to find work in this economy. An opportunity like this would be life changing for an average person, im sure of it. But the fact that they don't tell you on the infomercial or on the web advertisement that you are going to need much more money than $19.95 is very misleading. I was in a terrible situation and I spent my last 19.95 on this system, only to have my hopes torn down. I thought that I would enter the site that same night and begin making money, boy was I stunned. I went from seeing a light at the end of the tunnel to staggering in pitch black darkness again. I was DISAPPOINTED. I think they should tell people upfront the complete amount of money they are going to need in order to successfully master this system. At least that doesn't build up any false hope and you don't have to waste your time requesting a refund, by the way which you have to do by email because there is no number to reach anyone at that company. Then you have to wait to have your money deposited back on to your card. This was an unnecessary hassle that I didn't need or could afford. So many other so called guru's are offering this same type system, including a familiar face that resembles another guru. Is it really possible to achieve success overnight? Well I guess i'm back at square one wondering does this system really work, guess I'll never (NO)!!!!!!!!


Cheese
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It's a scam....

Whip

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reply to Mzskeptical
said by Mzskeptical:

I can not entirely say that Anthony or this system is a total scam,

But all you did was go on and explain precisely why it is a scam. You never even got to the part where everyone can not be number one on a search engine (which he promises) at the same time.


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said by Whip:

said by Mzskeptical:

I can not entirely say that Anthony or this system is a total scam,

But all you did was go on and explain precisely why it is a scam.

If you look closer you'll see that the shill was saying complimentary things about the scam system without ever actually saying them, just leaving them open as logical conclusions to be drawn by potential victims.
watch-
Dearest Shill,
Thank you for sharing that touching, heartfelt, honest & down to earth bullshit shill story.

said by Mzskeptical:

I can not entirely say that Anthony or this system is a total scam, ...

Of course you won't call it a complete scam because that would be counterintuitive to the purpose of your story..
Your post is intended to have morrison's scam program look plausible in eyes of prospective victims by making claims that all but the most naive & destitute would find absurd.
The only arguments you present against the scam are arguments that the majority of desirable prospective victims would not be able to relate to.
Your criticism only applies to people the Scam Masters find a waste of time because of their lack of financial resources.

said by Mzskeptical:

but what I will say is that it is misleading at 1st glance.

Of course you'll say that.
What that says is that potential victims should not run away from the scam because their gut is seeing scam at first glance.
DO NOT follow your gut feeling -
Exactly what the Scam Masters want. Look more closely so the Scam Masters have more opportunity to bullshit their way into potential victims money.
Intended Message: but on closer examination the program is not a scam

said by Mzskeptical:

At this point i was desperate, out of options and needed cash bad. So I ordered the system for $19.95, thinking that was all I had to pay in order to learn to make money online.

The Scam Masters will tell you that much - nothing earth moving in that statement, it's only purpose is to give the impression that you are bad mouthing the program when in reality you are trying to promote it

said by Mzskeptical:

I've never attended one of Anthony's seminars but I did order his system offline. I was watching the infomercial on late night tv as you know, because that's when they usually do there preying and advertise these false shows of HOPE.

Why did you highlight the word 'usually'?
Wait, I highlighted it, not you.
Why did I highlight the word "usually"?
Because that's the keyword in the sentence.
Usually = often but not always because this program is the exception to that rule, try it.

said by Mzskeptical:

Initially I was curious and also a bit skeptical,

Hmm, so what on earth did you do to sate your curiosity & quell your skepticism?
said by Mzskeptical:

so I sat on the information for a while.

The message with that is to not dismiss the program as just another late night infomercial scam but rather think about it for awhile. Keep it on your mind at least until the sales pitches begin.
said by Mzskeptical:

A while later I saw an email in my in box also pertaining to the Anthony system

So now you are referring to morrison's system as the Anthony system
That's a cute name. It doesn't carry even half the stigma that "Anthony Morrison program" carries online.
But as Shakespeare noted, what matters is what something is, not what it is called.

said by Mzskeptical:

At this point i was desperate, out of options and needed cash bad. So I ordered the system for $19.95, thinking that was all I had to pay in order to learn to make money online.

C'mon, you've seen the scammercial, the requirement for additional funding is disclosed by law & you know that's disclosed.
You're just trying to appear as if your bad mouthing when we both know the reality of that.

said by Mzskeptical:

Boy was I in for a rude awakening.

Don't call me boy, scammer.
said by Mzskeptical:

Once I purchased the system and was given access to the site,

This is pure advertisement for the scam.
Pay only $19.95 to have access to the 'site'.
said by Mzskeptical:

I later discovered that I needed more money that I didn't have. You have to pay for website building, advertising, hosting and traffic direction to your site. That's hundreds of dollars extra that you have to pay for this system.

That’s just pure, misleading advertisement for the scam.
It's intended to make a prospective victim believe that website building, advertising, hosting and traffic direction to their site" only costs hundreds of dollars rather than the thousands of dollars it will cost.

said by Mzskeptical:

Correct me if I'm wrong but, it would seem like the people needing this system would be the ones that are financially challenged not the already rich and successful. In an economy like today its hard enough just to get by, with mortgage, car note, utility bills etc.

Ok, you're wrong.
The only people needing this system are the people that are selling it, but thank you for trying to relate to me on a personal level, that's scamming 101

said by Mzskeptical:

It's almost impossible to spend this type of money on a system that you would be taking a chance on, so who does that leave in the winning corner.

You've already set the stage portraying yourself as a penniless, destitute person who has spent their last dime on "Anthony's system".
So that leaves everybody else who isn't penniless & destitute.
That's the target of your story, a pretty large group by anyone’s standards.
said by Mzskeptical:

The rich get richer while everyone else just barely get by.

Yeah, blame the man, damn the man. I can relate!
You, me & Anthony's system, together we can beat the man!
Sign up today!

said by Mzskeptical:

There are people that don't have jobs and not because they are lazy and don't want to work. It's because it is almost impossible to find work in this economy.

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! You can say that again Sister or Brother, Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Say something that potential victims can really relate to, it's good for bonding with them.
Ignore the fact that it hasn't anything to do concerning 'Anthony's system, it's just a rallying call, setting the stage.
Setting the stage for what?

said by Mzskeptical:

An opportunity like this would be life changing for an average person, im sure of it.

Setting the stage for introducing the thought that 'Anthony's system' would be life changing, buy into Anthony’s system to see it’s true!
The shill is sure of it & that's the truth too.
The problem is they don't actually mention how it would change.
It won't change for the better, that for sure.
said by Mzskeptical:

But the fact that they don't tell you on the infomercial or on the web advertisement that you are going to need much more money than $19.95 is very misleading.

yup, be sure to give what looks like criticism of the system immediately after giving it major praise.
It will obfuscate your true intent.

said by Mzskeptical:

I was in a terrible situation and I spent my last 19.95 on this system, only to have my hopes torn down.

There really isn't any money to be made by scamming people who spent their last $19.95 on anything so why not talk about "hopes torn down" to make you appear more sympathetic & credible?
The message here is that the penniless need not apply, you're a waste of the hustles time, but all else do apply, it won't tear down your hopes & dreams.
said by Mzskeptical:

I thought that I would enter the site that same night and begin making money, boy was I stunned. I went from seeing a light at the end of the tunnel to staggering in pitch black darkness again.

'boy' is often used by scammers in their 'stories' in an attempt to sound as down to earth, friendly type of folk that wouldn't consider telling blatant, flat out lies.
said by Mzskeptical:

I was DISAPPOINTED. I think they should tell people upfront the complete amount of money they are going to need in order to successfully master this system.

Whoa! That shot the bullshit meter right of of the chart!
What that actually says is that with an investment of hundreds of dollars you can master the system.
Assuming that 'master' = 'profit from', that's pure bullshit.
Anyone see where the top of my bullshit meter landed or is it still airborne?

said by [user=Mzskeptical :

]
At least that doesn't build up any false hope

LOL, so that would only leave 'true hope'.
Don't even need the bullshit meter to see past that line.
said by [user=Mzskeptical :

and you don't have to waste your time requesting a refund,

Yup, that's right, if you don't like the book you can get a refund!
But that's only about the $19.95 book.
The real money that runs in the thousands of dollars is not part of the books refund system.
But ssh, most victims don't make that distinction before it's too late.
said by [user=Mzskeptical :

by the way which you have to do by email because there is no number to reach anyone at that company.

Then you have to wait to have your money deposited back on to your card. This was an unnecessary hassle that I didn't need or could afford. So many other so called guru's are offering this same type system, including a familiar face that resembles another guru. Is it really possible to achieve success overnight?

All meaningless if not for providing more faux criticism & obfuscating the real intent of the story.
said by [user=Mzskeptical :

Well I guess i'm back at square one wondering does this system really work, guess I'll never (NO)!!!!!!!!

I'll help you with that answer.
Yes, cunning & original content shilling does work - your lame attempt is a 100% fail though.

garys_2k
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Awesome line-by-line takedown of that shill post! I knew when I read it that it wasn't quite right, you nailed it.

Umitencho

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reply to Doctor Four
Shill posts are the best. I need a laugh once in a while.

gnarly

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reply to Snowy
Like I have said before, " My mama didn't raise no fool" I came across the website promoting Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires and decided to take a look. I couldn't buy into it then and after looking it up on google which brought me to this forum I surely would not buy into it now. Knowledge is everything and from my experience word of mouth travels fast (faster when it is negative) After spending time reading posts in this forum I will most definitely be spreading the word to others. Please people don't fall for these sort of offerings. They just don't sound good from the get go.
Thanks to all who are spreading the word and bringing the truth to light.


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peterboro
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said by Cheese:

Oh that Adrian Morrison....

I saw Adrian Morrison last night pimping his latest book. He made 200k in one month ya know. If you buy his latest book he will send a second book for free. Wow. I can't wait to make 200k a month like him selling ads for diabetes testing on Facebook.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUKcKQ-···tailpage

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reply to JALevinworth
said by JALevinworth :

Adrian Morrison - Oh yeah. Now he's peddling his own show, called Social Commissions

Oh sorry, I didn't notice you already posted this. I was caught up in the euphoria of making all that money.


JALevinworth

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said by peterboro:

said by JALevinworth :

Adrian Morrison - Oh yeah. Now he's peddling his own show, called Social Commissions

Oh sorry, I didn't notice you already posted this. I was caught up in the euphoria of making all that money.

Hey, I can see you were blinded by the prospect of all that easy work at home free website social network traffic leading to sales/conversions right off of page 754,295 on a google rank for a fish-hook to the boiler room pitch grabbing the last of your available credit for the personal one-on-one training and coaching swindle of all those stacks of cash at 19% interest on a visa card.. oh wait, you can get that limit raised, right? so then, where was I?.... oh yeah, I am so excited myself I lost my place ...

The short answer: The more the merrier... although it was Doctor Olds brought this bloke's latest adventures to our attention again.

-Jim

TxCharlie

join:2013-01-24
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reply to Doctor Four
I ordered Anthony Morrison's two Internet Affiliate & Social Marketing books for $36 total - Very reasonable for what I got. I think it does have potential if approached wisely, not by blindly paying for AdWords clicks.

The only hitch was that I had forgot the personal coaching trial automatically renews as a $49.95 monthly charge to their Learning Center membership - So I emailed them about the four unexpected monthly charges, which totaled about $200. A lady called me back, and was very nice. Within 3 days they refunded every penny.

I had already tried some Affiliate marketing before (blindly using Google AdWords, etc, to directly market merchandise and services through affiliate programs). My AdWords bill invariably added up to slightly more than I made from the Affiliate percentages.

Morrison's books have some pretty good tips I thought, and his descriptions of the programs available were right on-track with what I was already familiar with, and his warnings were on target with the various mistakes I had made.

I joined Amazon's affiliate program (which is free) as he suggested, and got on their affiliate forums.

I met several people on the forums who had blogs, and they were using AdWords to drive traffic to their blogs, not to drive traffic directly to Amazon (which is against Amazon's rules). The income just depends on how popular the blog is.

One was making thousands of dollars per month, but he worked on his blog full-time, and it was very professional-looking. Another guy was just a casual hobbist who had an ugly-looking blog about his hobby - He was making over $200 profit, just posting one article per week, which led to Amazon ads for materials related to the hobby he was writing about. He wasn't even using AdWords or any other advertising - They just got traffic from Google searches.

That's all the proof I needed that the idea has great potential, after all. The guy was essentially doing some of what Morrison describes, but doing it rather poorly, and he was in a "niche" interest, so he didn't have a lot of traffic. Still, $200/month is better than a shot to the head.

I'm still trying to figure out what type of Blog or other website I want to work on, knowing that it WILL take a lot of work to drive traffic there and get them to click on the affiliate ads.

I believe the two books I bought will help me avoid some of the mistakes I had made before. Morrison never says you can just slap some Adwords up there and make a fortune. You have to do SOMETHING that sets yourself up above the crowd to just a small percentage of the millions of people searching Google every day. You have to keep the content updated, and continuously offer something new, so people will come back. I learned that just by corresponding with people on the Amazon Affiliate forums.


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better written than most shills...................

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reply to TxCharlie
Thanks for joining today to share that with us, your word can certainly be trusted, of course.

So, what did you tell us here...? Morrison's books "have potential," right. You automatically get screwed out of $50/month, check (but the nice lady refunded it all, how sweet).

Oh, and a guy not even trying gets a couple of hundred dollars, WOW! Just think how easy it can be to make REAL money, eh?

Sorry, I'm not buying it, none of it. I see this as more of Morrison's pathetic attempts at Google results when people search on "Anthony Morrison scam" words. Nice try, though.


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He has also nicely brought this thread back up to the top.